How much did Snowden take? At least three times number reported

[struggle4progress]

By Matthew Cole and Robert Windrem
NBC News

British authorities revealed Friday that NSA leaker Edward Snowden took at least three times as many highly sensitive documents as previously reported ...

At a court hearing in London the government told a judge that David Miranda, the partner of Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald, was carrying 58,000 documents related to British intelligence on electronic devices when he was stopped and searched ...

Greenwald .. previously said that Snowden had downloaded 20,000 documents ...

http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/30/20200659-how-much-did-snowden-take-at-least-three-times-number-reported?lite

[David__77]

1. Now might be a good time to release some.

Anything at all to throw a wrench in the war machine.

[KittyWampus]

2. maybe something to out some undercover agents, ey?

[David__77]

3. How would I know?

But if it saves lives and obstructs a tragedy, it would be good.

[frylock]

4. which hasn't happened as of yet, eh?

[joshcryer]

9. I have deep suspicions a lot of it shows the system works.

And it is not in GGs interests to actually facilitate the spying industry by releasing information that would indicate that it is working.

He already released some stuff that was highly radacated that said hundreds of attacks were prevented. The radacated bits would've been extremely instructive.

[David__77]

11. I would think it does work.

And we surely do need intelligence services.

[joshcryer]

12. I still advocate for 100% disclosure.

This is controversial, I know, but the data is effectively public (especially know that we know GG's security was lacking). Civilians need to know about the system and what it contains.

The first thing I'll do is Control+F "Josh Cryer."

[David__77]

13. Do you believe that FOIA would give you a version of the same thing?

I got that you were perhaps jesting, but I'm curious. I actually had a friend do a self-FOIA request, and got some stuff (he was an old time 60s-era activist of the "New Left&quot .

[joshcryer]

14. People have tried, it's all classified.

I'd do it but I figure I'm not that important, but I do not doubt that I have some "dirty anarchist" file somewhere. I hope that my position on things keeps them perplexed.

[Cha]

5. Yeah, well, greenwald lies and snowden's a sneak thief hiding

in Russia.. praising their human rights to the world.

"In a separate statement to the court, Oliver Robbins, Britain's deputy national security advisor for intelligence, chided Miranda for carrying a password on a piece of paper. "The fact that ... claimant was carrying on his person a handwritten piece of paper containing the password for one of the encrypted files," said Robbins, "is a sign of very poor information security practice."

Robbins also said that the information seized from Miranda was "highly likely to describe techniques which have been crucial in life-saving counter-terrorist operations, and other intelligence activities vital to UK national security."

[HangOnKids]

7. Up Next They Are Talking Through Soda Cans On A String!

[struggle4progress]

6. UK says Snowden leaks hurt its national security, could expose spies

By Costas Pitas
LONDON | Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:56pm BST

(Reuters) - ... In a written statement to the court at Friday's hearing, Oliver Robbins, Britain's Deputy National Security Adviser for Intelligence, Security and Resilience, said ... "It is worth reiterating the point that real damage has in fact already been done to UK national security by media revelations" ...

"A particular concern for HMG (the British government) is the possibility that the identity of a UK intelligence officer might be revealed. It is known that contained in the seized material is personal information that would allow staff to be identified, including those deployed overseas" ...

Guardian editor Alan Rusbridger said Robbins had made "a number of unsubstantiated and inaccurate claims" ...

Caroline Goode, a counter-terrorism detective, said in a witness statement released to the media ... "It is likely that the MPS is investigating a conspiracy with a global dimension. It is necessary to ascertain if the stolen, classified material has been disseminated."

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/08/30/uk-usa-security-snowden-britain-idUKBRE97T0KO20130830

[Cha]

8. What the fuck do they care? As long

as they get their $$$$$ and snowden gets to go on praising Russia.

[DevonRex]

10. "It is likely that the MPS is investigating a conspiracy with a global dimension."

PUTIN
FSB
SNOWDEN
ASSANGE
GREENWALD
POITRAS
GELMAN

RT
WIKILEAKS
THE GUARDIAN

[GeorgeGist]

15. Does this mean they broke the encryption?

[randome]

16. Despite what has been said, maybe these are not Snowden's documents.

Maybe this group (Greenwald, Poitras, Snowden, Wikileaks, etc.) has been stealing from other sources, as well. It makes me wonder why so many British documents were allegedly available on NSA servers that Snowden gained access to.
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