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DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 03:33 AM Sep 2013

Brzezinski: ‘Global Political Awakening’ Making Syrian War Difficult

Last edited Sun Sep 1, 2013, 05:54 AM - Edit history (1)

During a short interview with Germany’s DW News last Monday, former US National Security Adviser and Trilateral Commission co-founder Zbigniew Brzezinski commented on the growing inefficiency of war due to the increased political knowledge of the public.

Storyleak.com
by Mikael Thalen
August 29th, 2013




“Given the contemporary reality of what I have called in my writings ‘Global Political Awakening,’ a policy of force based primarily on Western and in some cases former colonial powers does not seem to me a very promising avenue to an eventual solution to the regional problem,” said Brzezinski, referring to the situation in Syria.

Despite Brzezinski’s noted long-term relationship with Obama which included a top foreign policy adviser position, Brzezinski denied any specific knowledge of his plans regarding Syria, saying that if the administration has a strategy, it’s a “very well-kept secret.”

Obama’s Middle Eastern strategy has been a mere continuation of the policies seen under Bush, exemplified by former four star general and NATO commander Wesley Clark’s admission of the Bush-era Pentagon plan to overthrow several countries including Libya and Syria.

Although Brzezinski at times attempts to appear opposed to military interventionism, President Obama’s actions in Syria, which include the support of admitted Al Qaeda fighters, closely mirrors several of Brzezinski’s previous policies, most notably the opposition to the Soviet Union in 1979, where decisions made by Brzezinski led to the creation of Al Qaeda through the CIA funding of the Afghan Mujaheddin.

Brzezinski’s call of warning to the “global political awakening” has only intensified in recent years. Last year during a speech in Poland, Brzezinski noted that it has become “increasingly difficult to suppress” and control the “persistent and highly motivated populist resistance of politically awakened and historically resentful peoples.” Brzezinski also blamed the accessibility of “radio, television and the Internet” for the “universal awakening of mass political consciousness.”

Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/brzezinski-global-political-awakening-making-syrian-war-difficult/


- Poor guy. Not the New World Order you planned for, eh Zbig? Gee that must really suck. You go to all the trouble to plan a World Domination party, and everybody's too busy twerking or planning a revolution......

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Raksha

(7,167 posts)
3. Well, boo-friggin'-hoo!
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 03:47 AM
Sep 2013

"Global political awakening..." that phrase is music to my ears. Now THIS is what I call victory!

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
4. I think that is true - nearly everyone is far more skeptical about the use of military force
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 04:17 AM
Sep 2013

I think we owe a debt of gratitude to George W. Bush for helping bring about this sea change in attitude.

Actually, although Zbigniew Brzezinski was very much a hawkish cold warrior during the Soviet era - he has been a voice of moderation in recent years. He has been very skeptical of the so-called war on terror.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
5. I really hate these stupid little lies thrown into articles all over the place. The Northern
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 04:27 AM
Sep 2013

Alliance Mujahideen ARE NOT AL QAEDA. They did NOT magically turn into Al Qaeda. They still fight AGAINST the Taliban and Al Qaeda, what is left of them after we helped decimate their ranks and their country.

From the article above >"...led to the creation of Al Qaeda through the CIA funding of the Afghan Mujaheddin. " < Total horseshit, as if FOX News wrote that line.

Mohammed Omar with the help of Pakistan began to pull together the unemployed and aimless younger men from Afghanistan and Pakistan, people from the villages, not those in the tribes of the old Mujahideen that fought the Soviets.

They then turned and fought with the old Mujahideen, who were then fighting for control of and the creation of a new Afghanistan after so many years of war.

WIth the help of Pakistan the Taliban began to grow, and started taking over the government of local villages, but the veteran Mujahideen from the North continued, and continues, to fight against them.

Hypocritical Americans say "nobody wants war" (I've read it here at least twice in the past couple of days) but that is just pure bullshit. There are tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands, of people here who absolutely adore war, especially if they can get someone else to die for them and profit from it. Actions tell people what one believes, not what comes out of their mouth. And the lumping in of their former allies with the terrorists is just one more indication that this country may say one thing, but does another.


KABUL — One by one, gray-bearded veterans ambled into the powder blue confines of the Uranus wedding hall Sunday to mark a bittersweet anniversary.
...
“The main aim of the jihad was to defeat the USSR and bring an independent government and create a free Afghanistan,” former Northern Alliance political emissary Abdul Malik Hamwar said. “Unfortunately because of interference by foreign countries and internal hands, the whole effort was ruined.”

Sunday was Mujahid Day in Afghanistan, a national holiday to celebrate the Afghan Mujahideen’s military victory over the Red Army, the culmination of a 10-year struggle that many believe hastened the demise of the Soviet Union. But Afghanistan’s victory was short lived and the country quickly descended into civil war.

Now, more than 20 years after the Soviets withdrew, the country still is wracked by war and many former anti-Soviet fighters from the north now fight with the government against former comrades from the south and east who joined the Taliban.
...


Here.

These are people who tried to make their villages better, tried to build schools and bridges, and even convinced long traditional Muslims to send their daughters (and sons) to school. And they are STILL trying to fight against the Taliban, when our drones aren't killing them or their families...

If we can't remember who our friends are, and at least not disrespect them, we deserve what we get.


 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
6. Yada-yada-yada.....
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 04:41 AM
Sep 2013

...nice try at deflecting away from the central theme of the post, which was not about the Mujahideen, Al Qaeda nor the Taliban. It's about how people are becoming more aware via the internet and communications networks and social media websites and how it's making it hard for these insane bastards (our leaders?) the ones with the bombs and drones and shit, from indiscriminately dropping them anytime they want. Capice?

- Oh, it didn't work.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
8. Don't give a flying rat's ass about the point of the article, care about accuracy. But
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 05:12 AM
Sep 2013

if that's what you took from my pointing out the inaccuracy, then maybe such defensiveness indicates that there are more lies, and thus maybe that's the REAL point.

ltr


 

countmyvote4real

(4,023 posts)
9. +1
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 05:38 AM
Sep 2013

I think you have made your point quite effectively. And I don't see how it really disagrees with the point of the OP.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
13. But it did work -
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 11:23 AM
Sep 2013

You said:

... It's about how people are becoming more aware via the internet and communications networks and social media websites and how it's making it hard for these insane bastards (our leaders?) the ones with the bombs and drones and shit, from indiscriminately dropping them anytime they want. .....


And, jtuck004's post above proved your point - by making people "... more aware via the internet ...".

Your OP is very interesting, but your "Yada-yada-yada....." above is rude and cheapens a good discussion thread.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
7. Agreed, but for one point ...
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 04:42 AM
Sep 2013

Fox would never broadcast a line like the one you pointed to. That happened under St. Ronnie's watch, and nothing he did was ever wrong or backfired or anything like that. Plus, the US is perfect and doesn't suffer from blowback due to failed policies or things of that nature. Fox would not talk about something like that happening, ever. Even if a Dem were in charge when it happened you wouldn't hear that on Fox.

No, that sort of 'assertion' about our funding the people who later became al-qaeda would only be seen coming from a publication from the Left I'm afraid.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
10. Correct. The Northern Alliance consists of those who backed the Soviet intervention
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 07:32 AM
Sep 2013

The USSR promoted women's education and worked against feudalism. The US in the 80s was funding people who fought them.

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