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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 09:09 AM Sep 2013

OK this is weird: "URGENT -- Nelson Mandela has died, former U.S. President H. W. Bush says"

URGENT -- Nelson Mandela has died, former U.S. President H. W. Bush says
Posted on 09-01 at 12:46:29 CST
URGENT -- Nelson Mandela has died, former U.S. President H. W. Bush says

Priority: BULLETIN
Time: 01-09-13 09:03 EDT-0400
Categories :International,South Africa,Politics

PRETORIA, SOUTH AFRICA (BNO NEWS) -- Anti-apartheid icon and former South African President Nelson Mandela died Sunday, hours after being discharged from hospital, former U.S. President H. W. Bush said. He was 95 years old.

"Barbara and I mourn the passing of one of the greatest believers in freedom we have had the privilege to know," Bush said in a statement. "As President, I watched in wonder as Nelson Mandela had the remarkable capacity to forgive his jailers following 26 years of wrongful imprisonment -- setting a powerful example of redemption and grace for us all. He was a man of tremendous moral courage, who changed the course of history in his country. Barbara and I had great respect for President Mandela, and send our condolences to his family and countrymen."
http://www.bnowire.com/inbox/?id=1985

Can't find any corroboration..

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OK this is weird: "URGENT -- Nelson Mandela has died, former U.S. President H. W. Bush says" (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Sep 2013 OP
i thought he just went home? xchrom Sep 2013 #1
He probably went home to die. I don't see anything on news though. uppityperson Sep 2013 #31
oh i think that's true. we're going to lose him. nt xchrom Sep 2013 #37
Poppy bush is still getting daily CIA briefings I would think. Autumn Sep 2013 #2
Yah... :( darkangel218 Sep 2013 #4
Yip, Poppy has his whole private army of spooks but his LOOPYmeter is slipping/TALKING n/t UTUSN Sep 2013 #32
Whups msnbc sez Poppy's office SRY!1 Bad intel or just ahead-of-its-LOOPY-time?!1 n/t UTUSN Sep 2013 #33
I didnt find anything either. darkangel218 Sep 2013 #3
Bush is Fucking DRUNK bigdarryl Sep 2013 #5
lmao!!! darkangel218 Sep 2013 #6
If Mandela is dead, why would George 'Skull & Boner' Bush's bleatings be "urgent"? Berlum Sep 2013 #7
No official confirmation from my end. Billy Love Sep 2013 #8
7:58 a.m. EDT September 1, 2013 - South Africa: Nelson Mandela out of hospital spanone Sep 2013 #9
Somehow I doubt that a guy who was confused by a grocery store scanner scooter rider Sep 2013 #38
From Bush spokesman: Are_grits_groceries Sep 2013 #10
See bigdarryls post! darkangel218 Sep 2013 #14
I suspect that this was the error of some aid karynnj Sep 2013 #19
memory loss maybe Supersedeas Sep 2013 #11
No confirmation yet but it would not surprise me. I Raven Sep 2013 #12
"he might have wanted to die at home" TheDebbieDee Sep 2013 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Are_grits_groceries Sep 2013 #13
Mandela was discharged from hospital and returned home to Joburg malaise Sep 2013 #15
The Bushes jumped the gun supernova Sep 2013 #16
Of course... CanSocDem Sep 2013 #22
Prepared statement released prematurely, I'd guess. Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2013 #17
+1 Motown_Johnny Sep 2013 #46
Before you blame the Bush's... brooklynite Sep 2013 #18
Not dead despite internet rumor monmouth3 Sep 2013 #20
The senior Bush's name is... DonViejo Sep 2013 #21
hmm has poppy lost his mind or is there something to this gopiscrap Sep 2013 #23
I wouldn't trust Bush if he said the sun rises and sets everyday. n/t AngryOldDem Sep 2013 #24
Didn't this happen before, Mandela reported to have died and it was false? Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #25
There have been faked reports twice. Someone's probably got a bet going if they can do it again... cascadiance Sep 2013 #34
So this is the third time, how bizarre. Thanks for the info. n/t Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #35
His Excellency Nelson Mandela deserves privacy and dignity. antiquie Sep 2013 #27
can't find any news either. give it time SummerSnow Sep 2013 #28
Come on now. If Mandela were dead, there was be hundreds of news reports out there by now. BlueStreak Sep 2013 #30
wonder if it was a twitter hoax. and why would Bush get the first news .lol SummerSnow Sep 2013 #39
I wonder if GHW Bush is dead. BlueStreak Sep 2013 #29
Sources say Morning Dew Sep 2013 #36
LOL! Thanks for a great Sunday morning laugh. n/t UtahLib Sep 2013 #40
I have an urgent need for a cartoonist. LOL !!! BlueStreak Sep 2013 #45
Not total BS ChangeUp106 Sep 2013 #41
Not THIS nonsense again...... kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #42
+1 Liberal_in_LA Sep 2013 #43
Bush spokesman apologizes for "stupid" Nelson Mandela mistake Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #44
OK. Why is Bush preparing statements about Mandela's death weeks ahead of time? BlueStreak Sep 2013 #47

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
1. i thought he just went home?
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 09:11 AM
Sep 2013

however i guess h.w. would know.

and we've known mandela has been in very serious shape.

 

Billy Love

(117 posts)
8. No official confirmation from my end.
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 09:15 AM
Sep 2013

I'll take it with grain of salt.

There has been reports of Mandela's death before.....

spanone

(135,831 posts)
9. 7:58 a.m. EDT September 1, 2013 - South Africa: Nelson Mandela out of hospital
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 09:17 AM
Sep 2013

JOHANNESBURG (AP) — Nelson Mandela was discharged from the hospital on Sunday while still in critical condition and was driven in an ambulance to his Johannesburg home which has been set up to provide intensive care, South Africa's presidency said.

On a sunny but cold morning, an ambulance took the anti-apartheid leader home from the hospital in the capital, Pretoria, where he had been since June 8 for what the government has described as a recurring lung infection.

President Jacob Zuma said in a statement Sunday that Mandela's condition "is at times unstable."

"His home has been reconfigured to allow him to receive intensive care there," the statement said. "The health care personnel providing care at his home are the very same who provided care to him in hospital. If there are health conditions that warrant another admission to hospital in future, this will be done."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/09/01/nelson-mandela-south-africa/2752731/

 

scooter rider

(80 posts)
38. Somehow I doubt that a guy who was confused by a grocery store scanner
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 12:59 PM
Sep 2013

is composing and releasing his own press releases.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
10. From Bush spokesman:
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 09:18 AM
Sep 2013

@BNONews: "WE HAVE NO INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION" OF MANDELA'S DEATH, BUSH SPOKESMAN SAYS AFTER EARLIER REPORT

WTF are they doing?

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
19. I suspect that this was the error of some aid
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 09:41 AM
Sep 2013

I would bet that GHWB composed this statement so it was ready when Mandella dies. (Just as newspapers archive obituaries.)

Raven

(13,891 posts)
12. No confirmation yet but it would not surprise me. I
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 09:21 AM
Sep 2013

thought when I read he was going home and still in critical condition, that he might have wanted to die at home. I would.

Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

malaise

(268,997 posts)
15. Mandela was discharged from hospital and returned home to Joburg
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 09:26 AM
Sep 2013

this morning. It was major news on BBC this morning. They have pretty much built an intensive care unit at his home and he is still in critical condition.

http://mg.co.za/article/2013-09-01-mandela-still-critical-but-is-discharged-from-hospital
<snip>
"Former president Nelson Mandela has this morning, 1 September 2013, been discharged from the Pretoria hospital where he has been receiving treatment," said presidential spokesperson Mac Maharaj in a statement.

He said Mandela's condition remained critical and "at times unstable".

"Nevertheless, his team of doctors are convinced that he will receive the same level of intensive care at his Houghton home that he received in Pretoria."

Maharaj said Mandela's home had been reconfigured to ensure he receives the correct care, and the same staff who had been at the hospital would now care for him at home.

"Despite the difficulties imposed by his various illnesses, he, as always, displays immense grace and fortitude," said Maharaj.

"We would like to wish him all the best as he continues his recovery at his Johannesburg home."



supernova

(39,345 posts)
16. The Bushes jumped the gun
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 09:33 AM
Sep 2013

Perhaps it's something like hospice care? He wants to be at home when the time comes, maybe. In any event, the Bushes screwed up royally.

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
22. Of course...
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 10:43 AM
Sep 2013


...like good Americans, they naturally thought that without the medical industry, there was no hope.


.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,835 posts)
17. Prepared statement released prematurely, I'd guess.
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 09:35 AM
Sep 2013

Like news sites have sometimes accidentally posted canned obits (Reuters did it to George Soros earlier this year).
And as someone else said, I'd bet Poppie has some inside dope on Mandela's condition.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
46. +1
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 02:26 PM
Sep 2013

as far at the premature statement is concerned


I doubt H W has anymore information than other ex-Presidents, or anyone else high up in the government for that matter.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
20. Not dead despite internet rumor
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 10:01 AM
Sep 2013

Nelson Mandela Released From Hospital; NOT Dead Despite Internet Rumor

Nelson Mandela


Nelson Mandela was released from the hospital after three months of treatment on Sunday — contrary to a widespread Internet rumor that claimed he was dead.

The ailing 95-year-old former President of South Africa is still in critical condition, but doctors believe he will be able to receive sufficient intensive care at his own residence.

Mandela was hospitalized with a lung infection back in June.

Early Sunday, a false rumor alleging that former U.S. President George H.W. Bush had supposedly confirmed Mandela’s death circulated on Twitter.

It is not the first time a death hoax has spread about Mandela.

But while Mandela remains in poor health, he is very much alive — and home for the first time in 12 weeks.

http://www.gossipcop.com/nelson-mandela-released-hospital-dead-george-hw-bush-death-rumor/



DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
21. The senior Bush's name is...
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 10:10 AM
Sep 2013

George H.W. Bush, not H.W. Bush. If the reporting news outlet can't get the name correct, why assume they got the full story anywhere close to being truthful?

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
25. Didn't this happen before, Mandela reported to have died and it was false?
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 11:13 AM
Sep 2013

What is up with that? All I heard was that he went home, from hospital.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
34. There have been faked reports twice. Someone's probably got a bet going if they can do it again...
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 12:33 PM
Sep 2013

Who knows, perhaps the banksters even have some derivatives on the line for this B.S.!

 

antiquie

(4,299 posts)
27. His Excellency Nelson Mandela deserves privacy and dignity.
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 11:18 AM
Sep 2013
Former President Nelson Mandela has this morning, 1 September 2013, been discharged from the Pretoria hospital where he has been receiving treatment. We would like to wish him all the best as he continues his recovery at his Johannesburg home.

http://www.nelsonmandela.org/news/entry/former-president-nelson-mandela-discharged-from-hospital
 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
30. Come on now. If Mandela were dead, there was be hundreds of news reports out there by now.
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 11:55 AM
Sep 2013

Yes, give it time. If we give it enough time, Mandela will indeed be dead. We'll all be dead given enough time.

I'm betting Mandela outlives GHW Bush.

Morning Dew

(6,539 posts)
36. Sources say
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 12:38 PM
Sep 2013
Fighting broke out earlier today at the grave site of George H.W. Bush.
The melee started when a group of spitters joined with a group of pissers to forcibly remove a dancing group which they claimed was taking up the entire grave site.

Ohio Joe

(21,755 posts)
44. Bush spokesman apologizes for "stupid" Nelson Mandela mistake
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 02:16 PM
Sep 2013

George H.W. Bush spokesman Jim McGrath apologized Sunday after what he called a "stupid mistake" led him to issue a statement on the death of Nelson Mandela.

McGrath explained on Twitter that he misread the headline of a Washington Post email alert Sunday morning reporting the 95-year-old former South African president and anti-apartheid icon had been discharged from a hospital. Thinking he was hours behind the news, McGrath said in an interview with the Post that he rushed out the statement, which Bush's office had prepared several weeks earlier.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57600910/bush-spokesman-apologizes-for-stupid-nelson-mandela-mistake/

A bush spoke... And lied... Again... Fucker.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
47. OK. Why is Bush preparing statements about Mandela's death weeks ahead of time?
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 02:32 PM
Sep 2013

#1 Who gives a flying #### what decrepit old GHW Bush thinks about Mandela's death?

#2 How hard would it be to write this statement of regrets when the time comes? I mean it was all pro forma anyway. Why would anybody write this weeks in advance?

#3 Why rush this out? What's the hurry? Mandela is a 95 year old man with an amazing life story. His life speaks for itself. It seems ghoulish for Bush people to want to rush out with "OMG, Mandela's dead."

If the statement had reflected something deeper, such as a recognition of even a tiny bit of the huge impact Mandela has had on this world, or how Mandela profoundly changed Bush's life or governance, then I could see drafting it in advance. But that's not what was released.

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