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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUS attorney in Seattle says Wash medical pot system 'not tenable' in light of feds' guidance
The warning came after the agency said it will allow the states of Washington and Colorado to move forward with plans to tax and regulate recreational marijuana sales.
In written statements, U.S. Attorney Jenny Durkan in Seattle and U.S. Attorney Michael Ormsby in Spokane promised the feds won't hesitate to go after people operating outside the legal framework set up by Washington voters last fall.
The state legalized medical use of marijuana in 1998 but never offered many options for how patients are supposed to obtain the pot. They can grow it themselves or allow someone to grow it for them, but medical marijuana dispensaries are not allowed under state law.
Nevertheless, such dispensaries have proliferated with no oversight by state government or controls on where the marijuana comes from or where it goes. Federal authorities have raided some they deem to be fronts for criminal activity.
"The continued operation and proliferation of unregulated, for-profit entities outside of the state's regulatory and licensing scheme is not tenable and violates both state and federal law," the nearly identical statements from the prosecutors said. "While our resources are limited, we will continue to enforce federal law in this arena."
http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/2f56238d194f4a309188a215de990ed9/WA--Legalizing-Marijuana-Wash
http://www.king5.com/news/marijuana/Two-Pot-Systems-221875611.html
The officials say it may be necessary to raise taxes or impose more stringent rules on medical pot to avoid undercutting the new recreational market and the tax dollars it is expected to inject into state coffers. Many "patients," they say, are in reality heavy recreational users who fake or exploit their maladies.
The idea of changing the rules for medical marijuana alarms some patients and providers of the drug as medicine.
Under current state law, a range of medical professionals, including naturopaths and even some nurses can recommend marijuana for health problems ranging from cancer to persistent pain. While Washington state has no patient registry for the drug, officials in Colorado, which also has medical marijuana, have said the overwhelmingly male and relatively young demographics of their patient population line up with statistics for recreational consumers of the drug.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/15/washington-state-medical-marijuana_n_3283035.html
mike_c
(36,281 posts)As long as they have the autonomy to go after the low hanging fruit, dispensaries and other providers will be at significant risk of prosecution, no matter what Holder says. We need federal rescheduling of Cannibis. Nothing less will rein in the predatory U.S. Attorneys looking to add successful prosecutions to their records.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Although it seems like having a medical marijuana system becomes kind of redundant when pot is legal. Just pull down the green crosses and open the doors to everybody.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Washington plans to tax recreational weed like liquor and medicinal weed like a pharmaceutical...hence the desire of many people who use it for pleasure to get MMJ cards.
mick063
(2,424 posts)One of the primary "selling" points to politicians is tax revenue. Ultimately, growing it at home will not find sanctioned sympathy.
Keeping the tax rates reasonable should be the primary goal. Perhaps an exemption for medical users is in order, but I dislike tax exemptions as they complicate tax code and create excuses for loop holes.
For me, the right answer is a flat, reasonable tax for both medical and recreational use. An attempt to segregate them would be legislatively cumbersome and difficult to enforce.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)where it belongs.
Holders recent announcement was hopefully a step in right direction.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)After all, it's not like young punks are beating WWII veterans to death in Washington State, right?
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)there aren't more severe crimes to be worried about than people selling pot?
Would you agree with me that these prosecutors need some better focus on what to go after?
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Problem is, around these parts the most common lament is, "why aren't they sending prosecutors to Wall Street?" Well, because when the banksters on Wall Street were running America into the ground, the shit they were doing was legal.
So yes, I agree that there are more severe crimes than pot.
Another thing: consider the veteran who was beaten to death in Spokane. Without implementing a "Minority Report"-style system of justice and throwing people in jail for things they might do five years down the road, how could you really have kept this from happening?
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)I don't expect prosecutors in WA state to do too much about Wall Street, that's pretty much a job for them where I live.
As for the vet, I just plucked it out of my brain when I saw the word "Spokane" in the OP. While I agree that it was certainly a relatively rare thing for any part of WA, somewhere between the two extremes of selling pot and beating up old men, there's a happy medium for US attorneys to be working on.
You're right, I really don't see how it could have been prevented. I lived in WA for 37 years, and it's shocking especially that this happened in Spokane, which I think of as a relatively mellow part of that state.
mick063
(2,424 posts)Honestly. You do.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)But maybe they've gone pro-pot when I wasn't looking. Was that what you were trying to say?
mick063
(2,424 posts)I interpreted the context differently from what you intended.
It seemed as though you were saying that pot legislation was trivial with street thugs on the loose.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Perhaps my responses to the other post convinced you that I wasn't some sort of reich winger. I certainly hope for the day when pot is dealt with the same way as alcohol. I'm from WA state, lived there 37 years, and am proud that it's a truly progressive place to be. NY is somewhat, but not as much as you'd think. I doubt equal marriage would have done as well here as it did in WA.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)In CA, they didn't write laws regulating the growers. The growers have no legal protections while transporting it to the dispensaries.
The legislature assumed the plant would magically appear at the dispensaries or something.
When I was in law school I took a course called "Legislation", which was about how to write laws properly.
A lot of the laws state and fed legislatures are passing fall under "Void for vagueness" (like baggy pants laws) and "Unconstitutional on its face" (restrictions on abortion beyond Roe v. Wade).
And that's why groups have to sue the state to get them overturned.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)The implementation of the initiative has pretty much been on a county by county basis with the exception of AB420 and the attorney generals directive.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)will find every possible way to ignore holder's directive and continue the war on drugs.
nebenaube
(3,496 posts)Not directed at you, just the feds.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)They think that all illness is "faking it to get attention" and that being ill means you're morally defective (like they all have perfect bodies what with all the alcohol and cigarette consumption that people like Boehner do).
I've run into lots of people of the working class type (I'm trying not to call names here) who think that if you sing and dance or play an instrument, you're just doing it "to get attention" like any kind of attention is a bad thing. I was once married to somebody who thought that if I was sick in bed I was doing it "to get attention" and so he went to the OTHER END OF THE HOUSE so as not to "encourage me". What a psycho bastard. He never noticed that his presence or absence had nothing to do with my being ill.
Repubs think people on disability should just get up and walk, and they're faking their crushed vertebrae or whatever, and damn them, those disabled people should just go out and get a job!! Because being disabled is so much fun and the bennies are SO generous!!!
But Ayn Rand got Social Security. So much for the rugged individual.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)the state's medical pot law that defines how pot can be obtained and dove-tailing that change into the new law on recreational pot.
Billy Love
(117 posts)Please submit your resignation tomorrow or Tuesday to Attorney General Holder.
Or i'll start a petition to the White House to fire your sorry ass.