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Scuba

(53,475 posts)
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 10:59 AM Sep 2013

Labor unions are created when workers join together for legal protections.

Corporations are created when owners join together for legal protections.

Why is it possible to create a corporation in a few minutes for a couple dollars, but the right to organize a labor union is under attack in States across our Nation?

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Labor unions are created when workers join together for legal protections. (Original Post) Scuba Sep 2013 OP
Because the former is making sure of the latter. Hayabusa Sep 2013 #1
b/c people let it become this way leftyohiolib Sep 2013 #2
Yes, PEOPLE POWER is potent... polichick Sep 2013 #7
Ask DU's "labor advocates" what kind of car they drive... Romulox Sep 2013 #3
What does one thing have to do with the other? badtoworse Sep 2013 #4
I think the OP meant states undermining the right leftstreet Sep 2013 #5
Why does government make it so much easier to form a corporation than to form a union? Scuba Sep 2013 #6
Presumably, all the workers would have to join the union once it was formed badtoworse Sep 2013 #8

Hayabusa

(2,135 posts)
1. Because the former is making sure of the latter.
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 11:03 AM
Sep 2013

Most corporations don't want unions because they cut into profit margins too much.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
7. Yes, PEOPLE POWER is potent...
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 12:59 PM
Sep 2013

We have to say NO to the political parties and corporations as they are,
and YES to unions - to ourselves actually.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
3. Ask DU's "labor advocates" what kind of car they drive...
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 11:26 AM
Sep 2013

It's not about the cost of forming a union. It's about lack of solidarity.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
4. What does one thing have to do with the other?
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 12:27 PM
Sep 2013

A single individual can form a corporation and in any case, it's up to the owner(s) of a business to decide what structure (corporation, partnership, LLC, etc.) best fits their needs. It's an optimization exercise and unless the business dissolves, it will take one structure or another.

Forming a union is an entirely different process. To form a union, you need a majority of the workers to vote to form one. If the workers don't want a union, it doesn't happen and the business continues to be open shop.

leftstreet

(36,107 posts)
5. I think the OP meant states undermining the right
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 12:34 PM
Sep 2013

There's been a big push to make it difficult to organize in the workplace

People are already forgetting Obama's failed promise on the EFCA

The right to organize will become more important as conditions continue to deteriorate for most working people

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
6. Why does government make it so much easier to form a corporation than to form a union?
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 12:57 PM
Sep 2013

I can form a Delaware corporation, despite having never stepped in the State of Delaware, in under an hour for $250. By doing so, I can protect myself from criminal and civil prosecution for misdeed committed in the name of the corporation.

If workers want to form a union to protect themselves from exploitative, even criminal businesses, there is more red tape and other obstacles than you can shake a stick at, and then states are imposing requirements on unions (right to work laws) that make them far less effective to the point of being untenable, and would make any corporation scream "bloody murder you're killing the job creators".

The "why" of course is well known. Unions are a large source of political opposition to our corporate masters and must be squashed. See Wisconsin for details.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
8. Presumably, all the workers would have to join the union once it was formed
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 01:22 PM
Sep 2013

A good many may not want to and without protection, many could be intimidated into doing so. The process needs to be fair to them as well. That is one big reason why the red tape needs to be there.

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