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(116,464 posts)
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 01:43 PM Feb 2012

Santorum regrets 'throw up' response to Kennedy speech

Santorum regrets 'throw up' response to Kennedy speech

By Daniel Strauss

Rick Santorum regrets saying that he wanted to "throw up" in response to watching a video clip of President John F. Kennedy's 1960 speech about the separation of church and state.

"I wish I had that particular line back," Santorum said Tuesday on Laura Ingraham's radio show.

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But he was criticized for misrepresenting Kennedy's remarks. Santorum claimed Kennedy said religious people could "have no role" in the public debate, but Kennedy was actually saying he won't take orders from the Vatican if elected, several fact-checking organizations noted.

Santorum has worked to make social issues and religion a primary theme of his campaign. He recently said that President Obama's political agenda was motivated by "some phony theology, not a theology based on the Bible." Santorum later said he was not questioning the president's religion, rather, he was "talking about his world view, and the way he approaches problems in this country."

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/213005-santorum-regrets-qthrow-upq-response-to-kennedy-speech



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Santorum regrets 'throw up' response to Kennedy speech (Original Post) ProSense Feb 2012 OP
Every time I see that pic it reminds me of Warren Jeffs. moriah Feb 2012 #1
You're right. I never noticed that before. nt laundry_queen Feb 2012 #4
I thought he looked like Agent 86 from Get Smart ... 66 dmhlt Feb 2012 #64
At one time, when people made such outrageous comments their public speaking career was over. liberal N proud Feb 2012 #2
Now they pick up a sugar-daddy billionaire rurallib Feb 2012 #5
not only is it the norm, we have assclowns encouraging them.... Blue_Tires Feb 2012 #8
+1,000!! LuckyLib Feb 2012 #31
I've heard legends of such a time... Scootaloo Feb 2012 #15
They do seem to have broken through a wall, haven't they? AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #42
Indeed. Now "I misspoke" is right up there with "Mistakes were made" n/t markpkessinger Feb 2012 #51
My father was a super conservative Raven Feb 2012 #3
VOTE A STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC BALLOT eom xtraxritical Feb 2012 #28
Sorry Santorum, you own it Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #6
You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube, Rick Lifelong Protester Feb 2012 #7
He can eat mainstreetonce Feb 2012 #9
You don't get it back... Aviation Pro Feb 2012 #10
You can't unsay it you sanctimonious gobshite. hifiguy Feb 2012 #11
YES !!!! pangaia Feb 2012 #47
I wish I could take your whole existence back Rick Downtown Hound Feb 2012 #12
I can't say that I regret the nausea I feel every time that he appears on the TV. Beacool Feb 2012 #13
I was about to post the same thing Bea! Jennicut Feb 2012 #14
Hi, Jenni!!! Beacool Feb 2012 #20
Good. Been really busy. Jennicut Mar 2012 #72
That does seem like a pretty busy life!!! Beacool Mar 2012 #73
No. This tactic is completely unacceptable. dogknob Feb 2012 #16
If only the election were as funny as Wanda. progressoid Feb 2012 #22
*BONK*... I'm sorry... dogknob Feb 2012 #24
No apologies necessary. progressoid Feb 2012 #26
Only because of the reaction - on Sunday he 'stood by his remarks' muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #17
You Nailed It DallasNE Feb 2012 #34
that's what i was going to say - barbtries Feb 2012 #35
you are right... AsahinaKimi Feb 2012 #40
He fully backed it because he was too stupid to understand Kennedy's remarks. Beartracks Feb 2012 #54
And we regret you Mr. Santorum. AllyCat Feb 2012 #18
he regrets that normal people heard what he said Enrique Feb 2012 #19
His mouth would get this country embroiled in a war within 6 months of winning the presidency SemperEadem Feb 2012 #21
Yes, he would. Very well said. Flying off the handle and making stupid LuckyLib Feb 2012 #32
Zealots are especially dangerous. olegramps Feb 2012 #60
and, in the words of Charles Pierce SemperEadem Feb 2012 #65
Must be hard being a Christian politician raouldukelives Feb 2012 #23
Man, what an excellent post! About the "noisy gongs and clanging cymbals" of our time. calimary Feb 2012 #59
It's like they've never even opened the book raouldukelives Feb 2012 #63
Sorry Rick no take backs - it's on record. Initech Feb 2012 #25
So people don't like a sweater-vest-clad idiot puking all over their religious freedom? Blue Owl Feb 2012 #27
you said it rick, you OWN it. spanone Feb 2012 #29
The Gettysburg address gives me diarrhea, so I know how he feels. Fuzz Feb 2012 #30
Yeah! And let's not even discuss Ike's "Military-Industrial Complex" speech! I might have to fart. dogknob Feb 2012 #33
It was a terrible statement but what was all the cheering about? Thinkingabout Feb 2012 #36
He doesn't think before he speaks..... Swede Atlanta Feb 2012 #37
Swede, You are just way too rational pangaia Feb 2012 #48
I'd like to throw up all over little Ricky Sanitorium. And I HATE throwing up. Dont call me Shirley Feb 2012 #38
Well, now Sanatarium knows how every intelligent person feels whenever he opens his mouth. Bill USA Feb 2012 #39
He only regrets his exact choice of words. SpankMe Feb 2012 #41
Santorum is an Idiocrat lunatica Feb 2012 #43
because now when people hear his name, they'll think of vomit AND shit. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #44
Too fucking late, Frothy 47of74 Feb 2012 #45
Santorum: a freeper barf at otherwise sensible, inconvenient facts alp227 Feb 2012 #46
This man is an absolute ass. WestSeattle2 Feb 2012 #49
As we used to sing in the 'Nam: "Hymn, Hymn" DemoTex Feb 2012 #50
Santorum - you make me want to throw up. Scumbag! jillan Feb 2012 #52
Which one? The first time he said it, or the second time he proudly reiterated it? tanyev Feb 2012 #53
Santorum sounds like he just walked out of a Monty Python sketch Art_from_Ark Feb 2012 #55
Regrets throw up comment libodem Feb 2012 #56
My dogs like to eat their puke. Faryn Balyncd Feb 2012 #57
It is not the right quote. "Vomit" is. Loudmxr Feb 2012 #58
Santaliban is a fugging dunce malaise Feb 2012 #61
You had Michigan won rocktivity Feb 2012 #62
Give the guy a break. He never really meant to say "throw up." DFW Feb 2012 #66
"Regrets", as in "Shit, it cost me the $#@#$!!%! Michigan primary!" Zambero Feb 2012 #67
He got busted! politicasista Feb 2012 #68
He's only sorry that it cost him votes. nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #69
Spam deleted by Skinner (MIR Team) gfhrtsdfw Feb 2012 #70
I throw up in my mouth a little every time I see a pic of Santorum. yellowcanine Feb 2012 #71

moriah

(8,311 posts)
1. Every time I see that pic it reminds me of Warren Jeffs.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 01:45 PM
Feb 2012

Just a slight physical resemblance... but yowch.

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
2. At one time, when people made such outrageous comments their public speaking career was over.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 01:49 PM
Feb 2012

Now it is the norm.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
8. not only is it the norm, we have assclowns encouraging them....
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 02:35 PM
Feb 2012

and a media too afraid to call them out on bullshit

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
42. They do seem to have broken through a wall, haven't they?
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 06:55 PM
Feb 2012

Now it just doesn't matter, because none of them have the humility to give up in shame.

Raven

(13,893 posts)
3. My father was a super conservative
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 01:51 PM
Feb 2012

right-to-life Catholic who voted Republican in every election except JFK's in 1960. I suspect that if he were alive today he'd be planning to vote for the Democrat again.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
11. You can't unsay it you sanctimonious gobshite.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:10 PM
Feb 2012

Own it because it's what you really think, dickhead.

Worst. Presidential. Candidate. Ever. And this from a party that vomited up Squirmin' Herman Cain, Batshit Bachmann, pRick Perry and the Little Chimp.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
13. I can't say that I regret the nausea I feel every time that he appears on the TV.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:14 PM
Feb 2012

The extreme right has taken hostage the Republican party. One candidate nuttier than the other: Bachmann, Cain, Perry, Gingrich, Santorum??????

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
14. I was about to post the same thing Bea!
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:19 PM
Feb 2012

Santorum makes me want to throw up every time I hear the nonsense that comes out of his mouth.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
72. Good. Been really busy.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:58 PM
Mar 2012

I have been working as a paraprofessional after going back to school. Plus, I have 7 and 6 year olds at home and they have tons going on too (ballet, piano lessons, homework). Luckily, I have some time to get back on DU.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
73. That does seem like a pretty busy life!!!
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:47 AM
Mar 2012

Well, I'm glad that you can find a little time to visit us.

Hugs!!!

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
16. No. This tactic is completely unacceptable.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:54 PM
Feb 2012

ReThugs have been flagrantly using the MSM to spread hateful and often violent messages to their little domestic terrorist cells, then issuing an "apology."

OK Congressman advocates "Killing a couple of Democrats..." http://www.care2.com/causes/gop-rep-says-killing-a-couple-of-democrats-only-way-to-pass-ryan-budget.html#ixzz1nKBF9TAH ... sorry.

Kansas House Speaker emails prayer for Obama's death... sorry

Just two examples...

Palin established a precedent for this with Gabby Giffords.





muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
17. Only because of the reaction - on Sunday he 'stood by his remarks'
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:54 PM
Feb 2012
GOP presidential hopeful Rick Santorum on Sunday stood by his remarks that efforts to prevent religion from playing any role in public life made him want to “throw up.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/212589-santorum-continues-to-face-questions-on-nclb-vote-


He first made the 'throw up' remark in Oct 2011 - and asked about it on Sunday, he said:

STEPHANOPOULOS: That speech has been read, as you know, by millions of Americans. Its themes were echoed in part by Mitt Romney in the last campaign. Why did it make you throw up?

SANTORUM: Because the first line, first substantive line in the speech says, "I believe in America where the separation of church and state is absolute."
...
STEPHANOPOULOS: You think you wanted to throw up?

(CROSSTALK)

SANTORUM: -- the perfect remedy. Well, yes, absolutely, to say that people of faith have no role in the public square? You bet that makes you throw up. What kind of country do we live that says only people of non-faith can come into the public square and make their case? That makes me throw up and it should make every American who is seen from the president, someone who is now trying to tell people of faith that you will do what the government says, we are going to impose our values on you, not that you can't come to the public square and argue against it, but now we're going to turn around and say we're going to impose our values from the government on people of faith, which of course is the next logical step when people of faith, at least according to John Kennedy, have no role in the public square.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-rick-santorum/story?id=15785514&page=5#.T00wJqh96Sp



There's no way he can claim it was just a spur of the moment phrase - he fully backed it, on Sunday. He agreed it twice, said it twice, and even seems to say it should make every American throw up too.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
34. You Nailed It
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 05:42 PM
Feb 2012

It reminds me in some ways when Romney said he doesn't care about poor people because they have a supposed safety net nor the rich because they can take care of themselves. Both were part of their respective stump speeches and the "regrets" only happened after they have been called out on it. They would have been more than happy to continue to include it in their stump speech.

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
54. He fully backed it because he was too stupid to understand Kennedy's remarks.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:18 PM
Feb 2012

At first, of course, he thought his dead-wrong reading of the speech was correct.

So, now that he's back-pedaling, I presume that maybe his arrogant ego somehow finally acknowledged some kind of feedback from an adviser about what Kennedy really meant.

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SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
21. His mouth would get this country embroiled in a war within 6 months of winning the presidency
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 04:06 PM
Feb 2012

He is unbalanced, too hysterical for his own good (or the good of the country), unstable, reactive, combative and mean-spirited.

His eyes roll back in his head and his mouth switches to auto-drive... he does not know or employ restraint in the moment, which is something that all mature, well-adjusted adults learn to master by the time they reach 25. He behaves like a petulant little child who can't get his way. Have you ever watched him, with the sound turned down?

He is a dangerous man who should never get close enough to the white house to catch a whiff.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
32. Yes, he would. Very well said. Flying off the handle and making stupid
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 05:22 PM
Feb 2012

statements would very likely get us in BIG trouble. We're already in bad shape around the world as is . . .

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
60. Zealots are especially dangerous.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:12 AM
Feb 2012

Sanctimonious Santorum is especially dangerous in that he is not only a raving zealot, but a lying demigod bastard.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
23. Must be hard being a Christian politician
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 04:16 PM
Feb 2012

Always having to fight for legislation to protect the least among us. Offering up the other cheek when someone strikes you. Casting off objects of wealth and limiting praying to private areas where nobody can see you.
Must be why I never see one.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
59. Man, what an excellent post! About the "noisy gongs and clanging cymbals" of our time.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:02 AM
Feb 2012

Sheesh, raouldukelives, this just nails it. NO ONE has seen a Christian politician in a long time. In reality, they don't exist - particularly in the GOP. They're as far from true Christianity as it's possible to get.

"Always having to fight for legislation to protect the least among us. Offering up the other cheek when someone strikes you. Casting off objects of wealth and limiting praying to private areas where nobody can see you.
Must be why I never see one. "

And you won't. Not ever. Not from these people with their shitty priorities and their new "sacrament:" selfishness. Sadly, they don't recognize that THEY and those they admire are the very ones whom Jesus threw out of the Temple.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
63. It's like they've never even opened the book
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 11:48 AM
Feb 2012

They just know the masses will push the pedal and get the treat when they have some Frank Luntz protege whip up a Jesus laced speech for them. The only interest they have in Christ or the Constitution for that matter is as a means to an end.

"Sadly, they don't recognize that THEY and those they admire are the very ones whom Jesus threw out of the Temple."

If America ever saw a candidate who truly embodied the teachings of Christ that person would be vilified, scorned and destroyed by the media and mocked by other politicians for being an enemy of Wall St and a terrorist sympathizer. IMHO of course.

Blue Owl

(50,427 posts)
27. So people don't like a sweater-vest-clad idiot puking all over their religious freedom?
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 04:43 PM
Feb 2012

Wow, who knew?

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
33. Yeah! And let's not even discuss Ike's "Military-Industrial Complex" speech! I might have to fart.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 05:26 PM
Feb 2012

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
36. It was a terrible statement but what was all the cheering about?
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 05:47 PM
Feb 2012

To think you have to say such outrageous things to get cheers, who are those who cheer his statements. Unfortunately those who vote. Where are their brains? It is time to put those politicans in their place and out of politics.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
37. He doesn't think before he speaks.....
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 06:14 PM
Feb 2012

I would have no problem with him challenging Obama's worldview in secular terms...one based on sound reasoning, allocating responsibility to our allies for things in their sphere of influence, etc. But don't attack his theology simply because you don't agree with it. That is what "freedom of religion" is all about and the reason there is no religious test to hold public office in this country.

Further I would not have objected to him saying he had some concerns about Kennedy's use of the term "absolute" separation between church and state IF his intention was to say that people come to the public square with views and beliefs often informed by their religious and spiritual experiences and tenets. As a result it should be possible for their views and beliefs, so informed, to be part of the public discourse. But as I stated in a previous posting that doesn't mean you come to the public square and say you are opposed to x or y because your holy book tells you so.

In both cases had he used more rational language in expressing his views they would not have been seen as so extreme. But perhaps that is the point - he is extreme. Had he softened his comments and not reacted from the core of his frothy body, he would have been in essence lying to the American public.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
41. He only regrets his exact choice of words.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 06:50 PM
Feb 2012

But the idea that the words apply to, he still agrees with.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
56. Regrets throw up comment
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 02:18 AM
Feb 2012

I'll bet he does. Boo Hoo. Ayatollaha Santorum. Religious Freakin' zealot. Opus Die creep. Ewwwww.

Woman hater.

Loudmxr

(1,405 posts)
58. It is not the right quote. "Vomit" is.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 05:56 AM
Feb 2012

You can throw up a little in your mouth.

Vomit is spewing chunks out of your intestines.

That is the correct quote.

FU Ricky.

I still recall voting for JFK...in kindergarten. And walking over the asphalt playground to the church that is 100 yards away from where i am sitting to pray for JFK and his family on November 22, 1963.

I ran home saying "Kennedy won! Kennedy won!!" I think my joy influenced my parents to vote for JFK. Perhaps they were just smart. I love you Mommy and Daddy.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
66. Give the guy a break. He never really meant to say "throw up."
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 03:45 PM
Feb 2012

What he really meant to say was "barf." It just came out wrong.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
67. "Regrets", as in "Shit, it cost me the $#@#$!!%! Michigan primary!"
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 06:38 PM
Feb 2012

Q. How does a presidential primary candidate who is dead-even in the polls characterize a landmark speech made by JFK, while campaigning in a state with a considerable block of undecided Roman Catholic voters?

A. His speech made me puke! And while I'm at it, Obama is a snob for wanting your kids to complete a college education.

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