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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGrayson says they'll have the votes to defeat the War Motion in the House. Eloquent.
Harmony Blue
(3,978 posts)what is yet to come.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)The best thing EVER to come out of Florida.
rug
(82,333 posts)SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)which is supported by the findings in the case of losers vrs keepers
he is ours
you guys must not have wanted him
he is a chunk in our delicious tropical melting pot
rug
(82,333 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)if you mistreat him then we'll have to take him back.
Although we may need to borrow him for 8 years in a little while, would that be OK?
fredamae
(4,458 posts)of him? He'd Love Oregon
karynnj
(59,503 posts)There are good people against going to war - Chris Murphy and Udall - for two. Alan Grayson is using this - like he has used anything else.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... and ANY member of the Obama administration. It isn't even close.
You play that horseshit character assignation crap with Alan Grayson, you get on my Ignore list. Goodbye and good riddance.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)Did he use the Daily Caller to trash Obama? Yes
Did he make a sleazy campaign ad that intentionally distorted a comment his right wing opponent made - undeniably You don't cut out half a sentence and use it when the full sentence means the opposite. I hated this when the Republicans used this to smear Democrats and I can't defend it when Democrats do it.
these are the ONLY things I have said that are negative about Grayson. I have seen many lies used against Obama and Kerry - I guess that it is ok, but unpleasant truths about Grayson aren't.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Somebody made a lot of money.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Sickening.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)just..... wow.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)dkf
(37,305 posts)But I feel guilty.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)The stories that he had a face lift in the last month (the time of the time of the picture used for contrast) ignore that he has not been out of the public eye for more than 2 or maybe 3 days in a row.
Better explanation, in addition to the stress of being SoS - which made Hillary look really bad at times, he was dealing with a sudden, very serious medical event that Teresa had in early July. A huge part of him looking better, is likely that she seems much better.
As to the WP claim that his face looks somehow wider - easiest explanation - he gained some weight - and he needed it.
The fact is Kerry looks very good for someone approaching 70 - and he was never Robert Redford or Paul Newman handsome.
As to Grayson, I have no problem with him dying his hair - if he does. Nor do I think how one looks is important. I do have a problem with him using RW smear tactics in an ad and using the Daily Caller as a source now,
Spirochete
(5,264 posts)boxes in his garage, too.
Don't forget to call him a boogerhead...
fujiyama
(15,185 posts)It looks like a combination of lighting and the fact that he looks like he has gained some (needed) weight. He also has a bit of a tan - maybe from the couple of days when he spent some time on the water. The fact is that he still has lines on his face.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)City Lights
(25,171 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Congrats.
bobduca
(1,763 posts)This has been "Beauty Tips from the Authoritarian Middle"
gopiscrap
(23,758 posts)wisteria
(19,581 posts)I can not respect this man-he is just against things to be against them. He really does not have a clue what is actually going on. I think he will be proven wrong.
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)He is not against intervention in Syria just to be against it. He gave some very good succinct reasons why we should not intervene. I don't understand how anyone can say that he doesn't have a clue. That's just not so.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Grayson who is grandstanding.
Response to wisteria (Reply #9)
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Whisp
(24,096 posts)and jumped feet first into Greenwald's drama.
what's not to like?
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)He makes everything black and white. If life were only that simple. Hell, his name even has GRAY in it. Sorry, but he's on my last nerve lately.
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)How clever! Everyone is concerned about your last nerve mimi, please keep us posted!
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)In between some crappy TV show.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Tippy
(4,610 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)(begged in some accounts) to leave some of his wisdom before withdrawing from the world of human issues.
No, had Vannilla manned the gates there would have been no "Tao Te Ching", there would have been a dead old guy just outside with a spear through his chest and a note saying "this infiltrator hates the Lords of all the warring states! I know what he believes, he does not, he is a barbarian attempting a coup!!!"
A much shorter publication with zero wisdom, signifying absolutely nothing, much like the posts of VR.
I am glad the gatekeeper was who he was and not a self appointed idea cop with delusions of grandeur.
Lao Tzu was likely mythical, but the collection of wisdom ascribed to him has earned the respect of the more thoughtful of us apes for a couple thousand years. (even if he was a Anarchistic doody head)
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)After last night's imbroglio, I will never tackle something as complex as Lao Tzu without a, wait for it ... a dictionary.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts).
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I expect you to have earned your PHD in 6th century BC Eastern thought by the time you get back! Hell, throw in degrees in Comparative Religion and Eastern Philosophy while you are at it, shouldn't take but a few minutes since you have access to such impressive research material!
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)... that was a beautiful zinger you slung yesterday regarding PhDs.
With that standard, I'm going to I'll be a Polymath in a couple of hours.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)gristy
(10,667 posts)He said what he says here - that he has the votes. I think he's right, but I'll keep my fingers crossed.
madville
(7,410 posts)This could be a distraction from the debt limit and budget that are running out in the next month.
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)Holding my breath, hoping it is true.
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)clarifying issues.
MindMover
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Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)I love death cheerleaders, they are the cutest undead things around!
Are you female and single?
I wish
MindMover
(5,016 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Response to Dragonfli (Reply #24)
Maedhros This message was self-deleted by its author.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,868 posts)When do you plan on enlisting?
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)- that they are now occupying while they prepare to invade and occupy more - comparing him to Chamberlain is absolutely appropriate..
Dash87
(3,220 posts)citizens and has left all of the nations around him.
Neville Chamberlain was so hated because he walked on egg shells with Germany while Hitler was openly gobbling up the territories around him, with England progessively being more threatened.
frylock
(34,825 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)SamKnause
(13,102 posts)Whatta man
Whatta man
Whatta mighty fine man !!!!!!!!!!!
Little Star
(17,055 posts)Karen Finney (who I like) would not let Alan talk. And Chris wasn't much help either. It pissed me off.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)of Alan Grayson.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)Little Star
(17,055 posts)you would be wrong.
I just feel he allowed Karen to control that whole segment without giving Alan equal time. Shit happens sometimes.
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)Is he a progressive? yep. Is he an establishment mouthpiece? yep.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)I think every political tv personality with their own show are establishment mouthpieces to a certain degree. Some more than others.
4bucksagallon
(975 posts)When are we declaring war Alan????
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)Raksha
(7,167 posts)David__77
(23,382 posts)This makes me proud to be a Democrat!