Since posting opinions of RW Nuts about syria

[iamthebandfanman]

has become the fad here on DU...

heres one from a progressive republican on 'intervention' :

"Any country whose people conduct themselves well can count upon our hearty friendship. If a nation shows that it knows how to act with reasonable efficiency and decency in social and political matters, if it keeps order and pays its obligations, it need fear no interference from the United States. Chronic wrongdoing, or an impotence which results in a general loosening of the ties of civilized society, may in America, as elsewhere, ultimately require intervention by some civilized nation, and in the Western Hemisphere the adherence of the United States to the Monroe Doctrine may force the United States, however reluctantly, in flagrant cases of such wrongdoing or impotence, to the exercise of an international police power. "

- Theodore Roosevelt (6 December 1904)

[delrem]

1. Thank fuckin' god that the world has moved on from 1904.

Else the whole world would be subject to US dictatorship.

[iamthebandfanman]

2. i know right?

darn that fascist dictator Teddy Roosevelt!

[delrem]

3. Sorry, I don't speak your language.

eta. in 1904 TR didn't confront the same situation as 2013.
Your deplorable suggestion has no connection to 2013.
Your deplorable suggestion sucks.

[eridani]

9. He was a big cheerleader for American imperialism with his "big stick"

Though pretty progressive on domestic issues. Sounds a lot like Democrats used to be, no?

[another_liberal]

14. He was a Colonialist.

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That is the same thing as a Fascist, at least it is to anyone with dark skin.

[Generic Other]

17. Of course not a fascist when you kill for humanitarian reasons

[Snake Plissken]

4. The Western Hemisphere has grown a lot since 1904 n/t

[David__77]

5. Teddy Roosevelt was a murderous imperialist scumbag.

...

[Hissyspit]

6. "If a nation shows that it knows how to act with reasonable efficiency and decency in social and

political matters, if it keeps order and pays its obligations..."

Like the U.S. for the past decade?

[markpkessinger]

7. So you are advocating "Manifest Destiny?" n/t

[Dragonfli]

10. They have been for a while now, they just lacked the knowledge of it's name... sadly /nt

[Gravitycollapse]

8. White, western aristocratic male waxes poetic about "civilized society" in the early 20th century...

hmmmm.....hmmmm....hmmmmmmm

[fasttense]

12. Exactly. n/t

[myrna minx]

11. So, are you advocating "Manifest Destiny" as our foreign policy?

Wow.

[another_liberal]

13. We've had two horrific World Wars since TR's day . . .

The first one, he wanted us to join almost from day one. The second he was not around to witness, but would undoubtedly have been great guns for as well (on which side it's hard to say). TR was an unabashed White Supremacist and Colonialist. International law has moved on greatly since his day, and we are all much better off for that fact. Under the guiding principles you describe above, Saddam Hussein would have found it quite easy to justify his invasion of Kuwait, and no one would have had grounds to complain about anything George W. Bush did to Afghanistan and Iraq.

International law today recognizes only two justifiable reasons for one sovereign nation to attack or invade another:

1. In self defense.

2. In accordance with a decision by the United Nations' Security Council that military action is required.

We ignore those conditions at our own peril.

[Faryn Balyncd]

15. And this is somehow to be construed as support for bombing Syria?

[iamthebandfanman]

16. k n.t