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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe execution of 7 Syrian soldiers would be SOP for any rebel group.
Personally I prefer we do not in any way involve ourselves in Syria at this time. That said I see one faction here yelling WMD while the other points to this execution as a balancing act, and this is a false equivalency.
Try this-you belong to one of a dozen or more small opposition groups. You fight mostly on foot with only small arms against an entire army. You hold no permanent bases and have only hidden safe havens. What do you do with prisoners??? Now keep in mind-these are not truly hostages-nobody will negotiate for them and you have no use for them as propaganda nor any way to spread the word if you wanted to. Alive they will slow any retreat, use valuable resources, and may know things about your group you would rather the government troops trying to hunt you down did not. Turned loose they will continue to hunt you tomorrow. You are responsible for the lives and safety of the rest of your group.
This is the bitch-goddess War. Neither side shows mercy but to gain an advantage and in asymmetrical war the smaller force can never gain advantage by a merciful act and can less easily survive the dangers of displaying it. Think WW2 resistance movements and the movie "Red Dawn"....the guys you call good guys know these rules too and obey them. Was Seal Team 6 "merciful" in the tower with an unarmed Bin Laden?
Ask any combat Vet here whether every potential prisoner was given quarter.
That execution was an ugly act but not at all surprising.
Niceguy1
(2,467 posts)Necessary. Many here just don't have a clue about what war is really like.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Niceguy1
(2,467 posts)People like assad use human shields......and oftwn you just can't ignore the target the are shielding....its no video game.
polly7
(20,582 posts)catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)...if you have one I suggest you write an OP and post it. You do notice your objection is not something I was discussing, right?
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)polly7 pointed out that they are still sadistic thugs even when the logistics of keeping prisoners is not a burden.
BTW -- guerillas are still obligated to operate under the Geneva Conventions.
BTW BTW -- my husband is a vet. He saw the execution video and noted how the sadistic thug was reciting a poem. He then went on to note that the leader probably slept just fine after that. My husband went on to say he would not trade a single one of the nightmares he has to be anything like those animals.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Got it.
catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)...at the outset I explained I want nothing to do with either side. But while your here, do you mean Seal Team 6 committed a war crime?
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)And us lobbing in cruise missiles without UN authority is a war crime, and poison gas is a war crime, and just sometimes I think no matter how you engage in these actions you and your soldiers will be guilty of war crimes....and they all rot the souls of those involved.But I did feel it was unfair to compare the execution to the entirely unnecessary gassing.
delrem
(9,688 posts)But that possibility isn't "on the table", in warhawk Nancy Pelosi's terms.
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)BOG PERSON
(2,916 posts)kenny blankenship
(15,689 posts)- that would be a horrible waste of food, would it not?
Noms
Any nourishment they pass over and reject as unfit (captive's entrails perchance, "bush meat" in other lands) just means they eat their normal rations and that would inevitably subtract from the meager total of foodstuffs available to the people of that afflicted land.
Refusing to eat the hearts of their enemies would in effect be taking regular food out of the mouths of the very countrymen for whom they fight. Who wants to see that? Who would ask them to forgo the economy of eating the hearts of their captives?
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)really a military, have no codes of conduct, I'm sure--and probably not comprised of some of the nicer young men around. Brutal, but not surprising, I agree.
daleo
(21,317 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)JI7
(89,274 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)Syrian rebels get first new heavy weapons after Obama announces U.S. to send military support
Richard Spencer, The Telegraph | 13/06/19 | Last Updated: 13/06/19 6:55 PM ET
The first new heavy weapons have arrived on Syrias front lines following President Barack Obamas decision to put Western military might behind the official opposition, rebels have told The Daily Telegraph.
Rebel sources said Russian-made Konkurs anti-tank missiles had been supplied by Americas key Gulf ally, Saudi Arabia. They have already been used to destructive effect and may have held up a promised regime assault on Aleppo.
A handful of the missiles were already in use and in high demand after opposition forces looted them from captured regime bases.
More have now arrived, confirming reports that the White House has lifted an unofficial embargo on its Gulf allies sending heavy weapons to the rebels.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/06/19/syrian-rebels-get-first-new-heavy-weapons-after-obama-announces-u-s-to-send-military-support/
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Democracyinkind
(4,015 posts)There's no middle room here because none was ever intended. And for good reasons.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Thumbs Down.