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chieftain

(3,222 posts)
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 11:28 PM Sep 2013

This country is saying no to war.

I am 68 years old. For the first time in my life, the people may actually prevent a military adventure from happening. I don't care whether the RW is only doing this out of Obama hatred. There is a clear and vocal majority saying no to bombing Syria. Congress and the President need to pay it heed.

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This country is saying no to war. (Original Post) chieftain Sep 2013 OP
the Amercan public have had enough Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2013 #1
Yes, the country is saying no. NaturalHigh Sep 2013 #2
Our leaders who have a favorability rating just above Assad? tecelote Sep 2013 #18
It's nice to see people waking up. People have been asleep and not paying attention for too long. liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #3
But...but...but... Cleita Sep 2013 #4
Thank you. David__77 Sep 2013 #5
It could be. chieftain Sep 2013 #6
We might be saying more than no to war nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #7
And that would not be a good thing chieftain Sep 2013 #9
You made me smile because as bad as it seems you are right. We are finally ready to stop believing jwirr Sep 2013 #8
Good. chieftain Sep 2013 #19
However fucked up the reasoning... NuclearDem Sep 2013 #10
vlakitti vlakitti Sep 2013 #16
A whole generation has been getting informed on the web instead of the nightly news. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #11
Not to mention all the families 2naSalit Sep 2013 #12
This picture should be burned into everyone's brain... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #13
Shameful. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #15
It's better than it was under Bush. He was playing games that were over the top.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #17
^^^^^^^^ Precisely Sep 2013 #14
That is a true and important comment. eom chieftain Sep 2013 #21
I see advertisements on television asking for donations to help fallen soldiers. mick063 Sep 2013 #20

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
18. Our leaders who have a favorability rating just above Assad?
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 08:06 AM
Sep 2013

I hope so too, but our opinion on so many things has not mattered.

Truth is, the MIC needs more war. They'll get it one way or another.

As Americans, we need to vote these guys out.

With the crew we have in Washington now, we don't matter.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
4. But...but...but...
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 11:45 PM
Sep 2013

Where will all the leeches from the MIC and Wall Street go for their buckets of blood in profits if we don't have more wars??

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
8. You made me smile because as bad as it seems you are right. We are finally ready to stop believing
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 01:08 AM
Sep 2013

that we are going to get somewhere by going to war. The last time I remember anything being accomplished by war was WWII. And then it was very costly both in lives and money. I still do not understand why we went to all the other wars. We did not seem to get anything out of them except a 1%.

chieftain

(3,222 posts)
19. Good.
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 10:00 AM
Sep 2013

I have been wrestling with this situation and it finally occured to me that something of historic value could come out of it.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
10. However fucked up the reasoning...
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 01:21 AM
Sep 2013

I didn't think I'd see the day when conservatives, evangelicals, liberals, communists, and anarchists would rally around the same cause.

vlakitti

(401 posts)
16. vlakitti
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 02:43 AM
Sep 2013

Thank you. I fit at least a couple of those categories and am so happy a gut check against bigpoohbah warmongering is a dominant attitude these days.

2naSalit

(86,603 posts)
12. Not to mention all the families
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 02:29 AM
Sep 2013

who have vets from our most recent wars coming home and not in good shape either physically and/or mentally. It's something that we, as a nation (actually our government) is not very good at addressing and they are very slow to act on. But we have a long history of that problem too.

As Sec. Kerry said the other day, they aren't asking for approval for "boots on the ground right now"... that comes later, I guess, after we hit that beehive with our dick, I mean stick (oops).

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
17. It's better than it was under Bush. He was playing games that were over the top....
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 02:45 AM
Sep 2013

There were cases where someone received fatal wounds and while they were still alive in the hospital they were given an emergency medical discharge from the military so they were considered to have died as a civilian and they didn't appear on the casualty figures as a service member KIA. Then the Bush bastards would have the nerve to tell the family they weren't eligible for survivors benefits and make them go through the appeal process to prove their loved one died as a direct result of their service.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
20. I see advertisements on television asking for donations to help fallen soldiers.
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 10:11 AM
Sep 2013

I feel great empathy toward those that have suffered catastrophic injury.

So much empathy, that I am angered that private charity is being hailed as the course to bring fallen soldiers back to some semblance of normalcy. This activity should be fully funded by all taxpayers collectively. Helping fallen soldiers with charity only reinforces pappy Bush's vision of "a thousand points" of light bullshit. In other words, removing financial moguls from their civic duty of paying fair taxes and playing upon the compassion of ordinary citizens to get fallen veterans back on their feet.

The military contractors and oil companies should face a "wounded soldier" tax similar to how it was suggested that coal companies should pay a carbon tax. The idea behind such taxes is to encourage alternate paths to those which cause great harm. As it is, there is greater financial incentive to create war than to stop war. The financial moguls cripple our young adults then plea to our compassion to help them in a voluntary manner.

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