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The Straight Story

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Sun Sep 8, 2013, 01:46 AM Sep 2013

Afghans say NATO airstrike kills 15, including women and children; NATO says 10 insurgents die

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) -- Afghan officials say an apparent NATO airstrike has killed 15 people - nine of them civilians, including women and children - in an eastern province where the Taliban are strong.

NATO, however, says 10 insurgents were killed.

Kunar province police chief Abdul Habib Sayed Khaili says the airstrike hit a pickup truck soon after three Arab and three Afghan militants boarded it Saturday evening. He said some reports called it a drone strike.

But NATO spokeswoman 1st Lt. AnnMarie Annicelli said Sunday that it was a precision airstrike that killed 10 "enemy forces" and that she had no reports of civilians dying.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_AFGHANISTAN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-09-08-01-30-15

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Afghans say NATO airstrike kills 15, including women and children; NATO says 10 insurgents die (Original Post) The Straight Story Sep 2013 OP
When will the war-mongers... HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #1
How old do you have to be to qualify as an 'insurgent'? n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2013 #2
If you're in the killing field of a hellfire missile fired by a predator drone, delrem Sep 2013 #6
What parts of NATO are still backing that slaughterhouse? That so-called "war"? delrem Sep 2013 #3
and Democrat congress members are voting yes to bombing of Syria annm4peace Sep 2013 #4
How wonderful!! Let's do it to Syria too! eridani Sep 2013 #5
I wonder where the US is keeping the video of the airstrike. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #7
The US murders innocent women and children...where's the outrage? bowens43 Sep 2013 #8

delrem

(9,688 posts)
6. If you're in the killing field of a hellfire missile fired by a predator drone,
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 01:58 AM
Sep 2013

and you're male, 15yr or up, it follows that you're an legit enemy and the kill is righteous.
That is US doctrine.

A problem is stuff like "double-tapping" and so on, which makes for extensive collateral damage, but that doesn't count in the US "war on terror", just because the US says so.

Nor does it matter than in the mess of blood and flesh and bones after a hellfire missile strike, it's hard to tell which body part belongs to which body. It's hard to verify whether it's "innocent blood and bones and flesh" or "terrorist blood and bones and flesh", so it's reasonable that the US wouldn't actually *count* its victims. What's important to know is that US counts, when the US bothers to count, are correct and unbiased, whereas other counts are total fabrications.

Got it?

delrem

(9,688 posts)
3. What parts of NATO are still backing that slaughterhouse? That so-called "war"?
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 01:51 AM
Sep 2013

To what "boots on the ground" extent?
NATO stood behind the USA in going after bin Laden, holed up in Afghanistan. I would still vote for that, if I could. But this is 12yrs later and bin Laden is dead, and the Afghan war is now so far beyond being defensible I don't know how anyone can read about it and not vomit.

annm4peace

(6,119 posts)
4. and Democrat congress members are voting yes to bombing of Syria
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 01:54 AM
Sep 2013

I just don't get it.. Some of the "yes" to bombing Democrats like to refer to the pictures and video's of the children killed in Syria.. yet they forget about the daily killing of children in Afghanistan.. especially the ones by NATO and US weapons.
( and the daily killing of children in the US by guns)

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
7. I wonder where the US is keeping the video of the airstrike.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 02:00 AM
Sep 2013

You know the kind where a hellfire missal takes out kids, and the drone jokey is told that what he hit was a group of dogs...walking on two legs.
 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
8. The US murders innocent women and children...where's the outrage?
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 02:00 AM
Sep 2013

Why are we not going to the UN to try to build a coalition to stop this slaughter?

Oh that's right, if our president does it, it's okay........ sorry forgot.

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