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If you are thinking this is about chemicals and not about proxies, read this. (Original Post) rug Sep 2013 OP
Yes, a setback for Iran and Russia. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #1
Ousting Assad has been a goal for at least 18 months. rug Sep 2013 #2
PNAC has wanted it for 15 years. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #3
I think you misread me. rug Sep 2013 #4
Ah, OK. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #6
It would only exacerbate the situation. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #5
It's about money, it's about profit, it's about politics... xfundy Sep 2013 #7
Obviously, I see it the same way: scarletwoman Sep 2013 #8
I saw that and it jogged my memory. rug Sep 2013 #9
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
1. Yes, a setback for Iran and Russia.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 09:31 PM
Sep 2013

However, handing over a country on NATO's border to al Qaeda is probably a bigger setback to the US.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
2. Ousting Assad has been a goal for at least 18 months.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 09:33 PM
Sep 2013

A higher priority in Syria than al Qaeda.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
3. PNAC has wanted it for 15 years.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 09:41 PM
Sep 2013

Be careful what you wish for. Syria had been fairly peaceful from 1973 until 2 years ago...almost 40 years. I doubt a fundamentalist regime would refrain from violence that long. I foresee terrorist training camps operating within a year of them taking power. Right on the borders of NATO and Israel. Do you really think thats a preferrable scenerio?

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
6. Ah, OK.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 10:00 PM
Sep 2013

Everyone agrees Assad has to go. The problem is whats next? Assad is only slightly preferrable to al Qaeda. The best solution, IMO, is to negotiate Assads successor with Russia. Let them pick their puppet, and keep Syria as a client-state. Then dealing with AQ and restoring stability to Syria is their problem. I'm guessing it will keep them busy for quite a while. In meantime, Syria is no threat to Turkey, Jordan, and Israel, and of greatly reduced value to Iran as an ally.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
5. It would only exacerbate the situation.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 09:45 PM
Sep 2013

If Iran feels it's losing influence, then it has even more motive to funnel weapons and fighters into Syria.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
7. It's about money, it's about profit, it's about politics...
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 10:16 PM
Sep 2013

it's about oil.

African proverb:
When elephants fight, it's the ants that suffer. (And/or the grass, in some variations.)

Hello, fellow ant. Look! A french fry! Let us share.



 

rug

(82,333 posts)
9. I saw that and it jogged my memory.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 12:08 AM
Sep 2013

When Gen. Mattis testified before the Senate on March 6, 2012, that statement didn't get much play but it's prophetic. Shortly after his testimony, he was relieved from CENTCOM six months early.

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