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applegrove

(118,634 posts)
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 10:50 PM Sep 2013

"Ron Paul to Speak at Holocaust Denier's 'Gala Dinner Fundraiser'"

Ron Paul to Speak at Holocaust Denier's 'Gala Dinner Fundraiser'

by Bruce Wilson at the Huffington Post

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-wilson/ron-paul-to-speak-at-holo_b_3881363.html

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In a heated September 5th interview with MSNBC's Alex Wagner, Former U.S. Congressman Ron Paul, who is currently surfing a wave of mainstream media appearances due to his strong criticism of the push from the Obama Administration for U.S. military intervention in Syria, defended his planned September 11th, 2013 keynote address at a "gala dinner fundraiser" to be held during a controversial [also see 1, 2] conference organized by a fringe, schismatic Catholic organization accused of virulent anti-Semitism, the Fatima Center.

According to a new report, Ron Paul's association with Fatima Center leaders, including Fatima Center head Father Nicholas Gruner -- who has espoused Holocaust denial, traces back at least as far as 1998.

During the September 5th interview, MSNBC's Wagner confronted Paul with the fact that the Fatima Center has been called a "hard-core anti-Semite group" and has in the past published writing suggesting that Jews should be stripped of certain civil rights -- a suggestion also once made by one of the speakers, Father Paul Leonard Kramer, who will join Ron Paul at the upcoming Fatima Center "Path To Peace" conference to be held September 8th to 13th in Niagara Falls, Ontario.

Former Congressman Paul responded to MSNBC correspondent Wagner's challenge by flatly refusing to reconsider his planned appearance at the Fatima Center conference and by accusing Wagner of "Catholic bashing."

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"Ron Paul to Speak at Holocaust Denier's 'Gala Dinner Fundraiser'" (Original Post) applegrove Sep 2013 OP
Seems to be ok. Behind the Aegis Sep 2013 #1
The Pauls Alex Jones Zionist Banksters USS Liberty Dancing Israelis David Icke Protocols of the... freshwest Sep 2013 #4
Well, JimboBillyBubbaBob Sep 2013 #2
Ron Paul: what a douche! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #3
I'm glad I'm bilingual and have a smattering of several other languages. Half-Century Man Sep 2013 #5
So sad that so many young men follow this douche alittlelark Sep 2013 #6
From one of the links in the article.... Behind the Aegis Sep 2013 #7
Sounds like comments that would make the speaker inadmissible for entry. Heywood J Sep 2013 #8

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
4. The Pauls Alex Jones Zionist Banksters USS Liberty Dancing Israelis David Icke Protocols of the...
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 12:03 AM
Sep 2013

And no, they're not racist! Not anti-Semitic! If you dare to say so, you are!

Don't mind the John Birch Society that the Pauls and Jones play with and their Koch family pals. Don't mind the personhood laws, voting suppression, etc.

It's not really new but it's all shiny and packaged up as Truth©, Libertarianism, Freedom and Liberty© and Christian Nationalist Patriotism.

Nothing to see here folks, move along, or we may have to shoot you. Like the 2nd Amendment says.

Do I need an icon for this?

I'll try this one:

I don't like the face of the new anti-semiticism. It looks very much like the old one. It's turning a generation into something that is dishonest, illogical and hateful.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
5. I'm glad I'm bilingual and have a smattering of several other languages.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 01:46 AM
Sep 2013

Because English just doesn't have quite enough swear words to properly express myself.


****content excluded by UN treaties***

Wow...My spell checker suggested I seek therapy.

alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
6. So sad that so many young men follow this douche
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 02:17 AM
Sep 2013

....once they hit their mid twenties and get some perspective they generally dismiss him... but he has them in his F'ed up world for awhile.

Behind the Aegis

(53,955 posts)
7. From one of the links in the article....
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 03:20 AM
Sep 2013
Father Nicholas Gruner, who runs the Fatima Center, rejected the allegations that his group was anti-Semitic in an interview with the Free Beacon on Friday.

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However, Gruner added he is skeptical that 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust.

“What exactly is Holocaust denial?” Bruner said. “Are we talking about the six million Jews that are alleged to been killed by Hitler?”

“A question that nobody has been able to answer for me, is how can you have six million die, and have 13 million left, when you only had 13 million to start with?” Bruner continued. “I think it’s impossible. But you know, I’m open-minded. I’ll listen to somebody who can prove it otherwise.”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101672753


Gruner is also the founder of the Fatima Center.

Heywood J

(2,515 posts)
8. Sounds like comments that would make the speaker inadmissible for entry.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 07:37 PM
Sep 2013

If George Galloway is not admissible, surely the "Father" would be the same.

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