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cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 01:47 AM Feb 2012

Did any women sign the Declaration of Independence?

In Santorum's speech, he said, "The men and women who signed that Declaration of Independence wrote this final phrase: We pledge to each other -- we pledge to each other our lives, our fortune, and our sacred Honor."

Am I confused?

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Did any women sign the Declaration of Independence? (Original Post) cyberswede Feb 2012 OP
... sakabatou Feb 2012 #1
That misstatement sent the Twitter world a-twitter! NRaleighLiberal Feb 2012 #2
I heard that too and wondered where he came up with that one. shraby Feb 2012 #3
actually it came from political correctness hfojvt Feb 2012 #9
Really? lunatica Feb 2012 #20
uh lol? ibegurpard Feb 2012 #4
Uuuuh, no. yewberry Feb 2012 #5
Are there any women here? DefenseLawyer Feb 2012 #6
Yep hyphenate Feb 2012 #15
They're all women. That's the joke. DefenseLawyer Feb 2012 #23
Betty White? lpbk2713 Feb 2012 #7
haha ibegurpard Feb 2012 #8
It's the wigs, it can be very confusing Riftaxe Feb 2012 #10
LOL!! Sparkly Feb 2012 #24
Hey, they only wore wigs because they didn't understand lice snooper2 Feb 2012 #25
Wait, WHAT??! How many drugs do you have to take AND SURVIVE to say what he did? Ecumenist Feb 2012 #11
But black men were in NC unc70 Feb 2012 #13
You do realise there was something called Slavery and we as black people, weren't Ecumenist Feb 2012 #18
Things were really different in NC unc70 Feb 2012 #19
Not unless one of those guys had something going on under their clothing that they MADem Feb 2012 #12
If they did hyphenate Feb 2012 #14
Sadly, no. Zalatix Feb 2012 #16
Natural mistake, but Button Gwinnett was a guy. dimbear Feb 2012 #17
How easily he re-writes history! lunatica Feb 2012 #21
His entire speech was pandering to women because he has lost them. That was another example. Happyhippychick Feb 2012 #22

shraby

(21,946 posts)
3. I heard that too and wondered where he came up with that one.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 01:51 AM
Feb 2012

I guess since he's been lambasting women lately because of contraceptives, he thought he'd let them be a part of signing it....even though he'd like to put all of us back under the male thumb and into the kitchen fixing they're meals and walking a dutiful 3 steps behind.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
9. actually it came from political correctness
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 01:55 AM
Feb 2012

People our age have been taught to be inclusive. We say "men and women" and "he or she". So we are likely to think and talk that way even though we know it is not true in the historical context.

hyphenate

(12,496 posts)
15. Yep
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 03:43 AM
Feb 2012

At least one of them!

(The one on the far left (appropriately enough!) with the fake moustache)


The one on the far right looks a little like Eric Idle, though.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
23. They're all women. That's the joke.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:00 AM
Feb 2012

It's from the great Monty Python film "The Life of Brian". Women are forbidden from taking part in "stoning", but it turns out that everyone who is taking part is a woman in disguise. That is Eric Idle, but he's playing a woman in the scene.

Riftaxe

(2,693 posts)
10. It's the wigs, it can be very confusing
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 02:18 AM
Feb 2012

and is why you should not depend on picture books for learning history...



Here is Beatrice Franklin getting ready to sign!

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
11. Wait, WHAT??! How many drugs do you have to take AND SURVIVE to say what he did?
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 02:33 AM
Feb 2012

I'm a BLACK WOMAN and not only was I NOT allowed to serve on a jury or own property, let alone vote, I was only considered 3/5th's of a person. What delusional world does he live in? Chilluns, this is what happens when you don't pay attention in class. SMDH

unc70

(6,113 posts)
13. But black men were in NC
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 03:31 AM
Feb 2012

In NC you were a natural born citizen, but like white women you could not vote, had limited rights to own property.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
18. You do realise there was something called Slavery and we as black people, weren't
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 04:34 AM
Feb 2012

considered human. We were in fact, considered to be 3/5TH'S of a person. As a matter of fact, horses were often given top billing over black people at sales. So no, neither Black women NOR men were allowed to vote. My uncle had to leave his state in the 60's before he could S-A-F-E-L-Y vote, and that was South Carolina. Black people couldn't even legally marry. Couldn't have your chattel forming legal bonds when you needed to be ab loe to sell them off away from one another and there children like so many puppies.

unc70

(6,113 posts)
19. Things were really different in NC
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 08:28 AM
Feb 2012

Not great, but NC was really different during the early history. Up until 1898. Plenty to be ashamed of for the next 60+ years.

Free "men of color" could vote until mid 1830's. Even freed slaves were natural born citizens.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
12. Not unless one of those guys had something going on under their clothing that they
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 03:30 AM
Feb 2012

were keeping a great big secret...

He was too busy throwing up over JFK's comments to study his American History, I guess...

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
21. How easily he re-writes history!
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 08:56 AM
Feb 2012

You can do that when you don't read history. Just make it up as needed.

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