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In Santorum's speech, he said, "The men and women who signed that Declaration of Independence wrote this final phrase: We pledge to each other -- we pledge to each other our lives, our fortune, and our sacred Honor."
Am I confused?
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)shraby
(21,946 posts)I guess since he's been lambasting women lately because of contraceptives, he thought he'd let them be a part of signing it....even though he'd like to put all of us back under the male thumb and into the kitchen fixing they're meals and walking a dutiful 3 steps behind.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)People our age have been taught to be inclusive. We say "men and women" and "he or she". So we are likely to think and talk that way even though we know it is not true in the historical context.
I don't have that problem. But stupid is as stupid does, I guess.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)of course they should've but that wasn't the way it happened.
yewberry
(6,530 posts)Nyet. Nope. Non.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)hyphenate
(12,496 posts)At least one of them!
(The one on the far left (appropriately enough!) with the fake moustache)
The one on the far right looks a little like Eric Idle, though.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)It's from the great Monty Python film "The Life of Brian". Women are forbidden from taking part in "stoning", but it turns out that everyone who is taking part is a woman in disguise. That is Eric Idle, but he's playing a woman in the scene.
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)Nah.
Riftaxe
(2,693 posts)and is why you should not depend on picture books for learning history...
Here is Beatrice Franklin getting ready to sign!
snooper2
(30,151 posts)LOL
Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)I'm a BLACK WOMAN and not only was I NOT allowed to serve on a jury or own property, let alone vote, I was only considered 3/5th's of a person. What delusional world does he live in? Chilluns, this is what happens when you don't pay attention in class. SMDH
unc70
(6,113 posts)In NC you were a natural born citizen, but like white women you could not vote, had limited rights to own property.
Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)considered human. We were in fact, considered to be 3/5TH'S of a person. As a matter of fact, horses were often given top billing over black people at sales. So no, neither Black women NOR men were allowed to vote. My uncle had to leave his state in the 60's before he could S-A-F-E-L-Y vote, and that was South Carolina. Black people couldn't even legally marry. Couldn't have your chattel forming legal bonds when you needed to be ab loe to sell them off away from one another and there children like so many puppies.
unc70
(6,113 posts)Not great, but NC was really different during the early history. Up until 1898. Plenty to be ashamed of for the next 60+ years.
Free "men of color" could vote until mid 1830's. Even freed slaves were natural born citizens.
MADem
(135,425 posts)were keeping a great big secret...
He was too busy throwing up over JFK's comments to study his American History, I guess...
hyphenate
(12,496 posts)They did it disguised as men.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)dimbear
(6,271 posts)Nowadays that would fit on a Valley girl.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)You can do that when you don't read history. Just make it up as needed.