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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 02:28 PM Sep 2013

If you believe that Syria is going to put

all of their chemical weapons under international control, I have swamps and bridges for sale priced just for you.

Assad is up to no good along with Putin.
We will happily go along with this to save face and declare everything all good. It's international hijinks at the highest levels.

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If you believe that Syria is going to put (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Sep 2013 OP
I am not convicnced that anyone involved is serious about this offer. morningfog Sep 2013 #1
right. when you analyze it, it looks unlikely to solve anything. cali Sep 2013 #14
Deja vu to 2003 nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #2
They suggest putting the weapons under international control LittleBlue Sep 2013 #3
still hanging on to the Obama = Bush meme are we? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #4
They are not very similar at all. David__77 Sep 2013 #7
thank you...that's one of the stupidest memes I have heard of late.. VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #8
No Are_grits_groceries Sep 2013 #10
I really honestly want to believe it's true. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #5
Then are you going to praise Obama if it happens? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #9
For what credit he deserves, yes. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #12
If it happens he deserves alot VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #17
what makes you think it's going to happen? cali Sep 2013 #15
What makes you think it won't? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #23
uh, I wrote an op on that, dearie. And as YOU posted in it several times cali Sep 2013 #26
and if they do "dearie"? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #27
I'll be the first organizing the ticker tape parade Aerows Sep 2013 #22
I agree with you up to we will go along Puzzledtraveller Sep 2013 #6
so you are doubling down "even if Obama wins--he loses?" Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #11
I didn't say or mean ANY of that. Are_grits_groceries Sep 2013 #13
There's hundreds of tons of the stuff dispersed at seventy to eighty different sites/nt DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #16
and 78% of the worlds chemical weapons have already been destroyed... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #18
your point is? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #19
that the world has managed such a feat already over these weapons VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #20
How do we know that for sure? You'd need people on the ground inspecting KoKo Sep 2013 #21
You too Koko? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #24
Here's a link to wikipedia DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #25
It's probable that he moved them around though since that report... KoKo Sep 2013 #28
I'm sure he did... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #29
 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
1. I am not convicnced that anyone involved is serious about this offer.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 02:29 PM
Sep 2013

I can see it accelerating a march to war.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
3. They suggest putting the weapons under international control
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 02:36 PM
Sep 2013

You know what international control would be under the Putin plan? Some unarmed UN observers and the Russian military.

David__77

(23,372 posts)
7. They are not very similar at all.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 02:47 PM
Sep 2013

People who say that are wrong. There are similarities between all media/government lead-ups to foreign aggression, but that doesn't make the administrations similar.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
10. No
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 02:50 PM
Sep 2013

I don't trust any of the players in this hot mess. The Middle East is a nest of various groups with their own agendas. The international community hops in and out as they please.

You are the one jumping around and claiming I am equating Obama with Bush. If I meant that, I would say that. This is Syria not Iraq.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
5. I really honestly want to believe it's true.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 02:39 PM
Sep 2013

I mean, this sort of action is exactly what I've been hoping for, some nonmilitary way to get rid of the CWs. And that Russia is at least giving the outward appearance of being onboard with it is at least a good sign.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
17. If it happens he deserves alot
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 02:59 PM
Sep 2013

I think I remember an old American adage..."Walk softly and carry a big stick"

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
26. uh, I wrote an op on that, dearie. And as YOU posted in it several times
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 03:42 PM
Sep 2013

you know that.

Now c'mon, answer the question. You can do it! Just try thinking instead of emoting.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
27. and if they do "dearie"?
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 03:48 PM
Sep 2013

Russia's ONLY base in the Middle East is in Syria....and they buy Russia's weapons. In fact they owe Russia money for those arms...So Putin is just trying to protect thier investment there. But of course no one pays attention to

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
6. I agree with you up to we will go along
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 02:40 PM
Sep 2013

The strikes are going to happen, the Russia/Syrian gambit will be mostly brushed off. The vote in the senate is scheduled. I think it will pass.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
11. so you are doubling down "even if Obama wins--he loses?"
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 02:50 PM
Sep 2013

nice touch. If we go to war, Obama is a criminal thug. If this episode avoids war, Obama is a naive child among international heroes.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
13. I didn't say or mean ANY of that.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 02:54 PM
Sep 2013

Your post is a twee little tale you made out of whole cloth from the recesses of your mind.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
20. that the world has managed such a feat already over these weapons
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 03:24 PM
Sep 2013

what other weapon has EVER had that on its resume? What other weapon has ever been abandoned so readily because of outrage over its use? THAT is how important it will be....but Yes...it takes time to eliminate them.....it will take us to 2017 (the U.S. you have to stipulate that now it seems) to eliminate all of ours.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
21. How do we know that for sure? You'd need people on the ground inspecting
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 03:31 PM
Sep 2013

and we don't know that isn't an inflated number from US...

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
28. It's probable that he moved them around though since that report...
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 03:50 PM
Sep 2013

or consolidated them? I'm hopeful that if Assad is serious and since Russia proposed this that the Russians would work to make sure the sites are known to UN inspectors. It would look bad for Russia to have proposed the UN come in and secure and then have Assad hold out on them ...and use them later.

If the rebels have some of them...then that's going to be more difficult, though.

Thanks for link.

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