Syrian acceptance of Russian deal --

[Nuclear Unicorn]

A) Changes nothing

B) Increases likelihood of congress passing AUMF

C) Decreases likelihood of congress passing AUMF

D) Abrogates the need for force so the request for the AUMF should be withdrawn

[cali]

1. In the long run, I doubt it changes much.

I don't see it increasing the chances of the AUMF passing in the House.

[Junkdrawer]

2. The Administration's position is the same as the position on Energy....

All the Above.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

3. you should donate so you can do an actual poll

this one is rather unwieldy to tabulate

[Nuclear Unicorn]

6. Actually, I would still do polls this way. It keeps people from voting and running.

[cali]

8. you should mind your own business.

some of us have a hard time coming up with even 5 bucks to donate. I don't know if that's true for the OP, but I doubt if you're familiar with his/her finances, either.

[NCTraveler]

14. +1

[FarCenter]

4. The real effect will be the reaction around the world, not domestically.

So far, Cameron is the only major comment, with the typically mealy-mouthed response.

[Whisp]

5. awwwww

[Nuclear Unicorn]

7. I'm not sure what it is I have to feel gloomy about

I believe the Russian gambit robs the WH of its stated cause for war. Any effort by the WH to rekindle the march for war would only hurt them further.

[Whisp]

10. so you believe it's Putin that is fulling Obama back from taking everyone to the gates of hell.

mhmm.

You wouldn't be a die hard Snowden fan, would you? I'm finding a connection between people that believe Snowden is a thumbdrive full of goodness suddenly feel that Putin is a better leader than Obama is, smarter, better, wears guns better, rides bears!!!

[Nuclear Unicorn]

12. Russia is playing for no one's interests except Russia's

I believe they are cynical and manipulative. But I certainly don't think we should add "just to spite those Ruskie bastards" to the reasons to wage a stupid war in Syria.

[Whisp]

13. I don't think war should be for spite either.

who said that?

and I don't think Putin is doing this out of the goodness of his heart. There is all kinds of leverage that can be used that we probably don't even know about.

I just don't like this newest theme, after we find out that Syria invasion might be averted and that there is a possibility Obama saw the long game and is going as he hoped, that some how Putin is the knight in shining armour saving us from Obama and his rabid thirst for warmongering blood.

just foolishness.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

15. Putin is eating Obama's lunch over Syria but Obama created and propogated this mess.

It's the price of being saved from himself.

[Whisp]

16. that is such large bollocks there aren't enough universes for them.

you Are a Snowden fan, aren't you?

[Nuclear Unicorn]

18. Obama barely has a majority of dems supporting his adventure

That's sad in partisan in terms. Among GOPers (naturally) and Indies he's cratering hard. Depending on the poll opinion against this debacle in the making is running 70 to 90 percent.

The day before congress votes Kerry issues an ultimatum (dumb!). Then Putin swoops in and tells Assad to accept the terms of that ultimatum. So, Obama has pissed all over congress by issuing presumptive ultimatums and then Putin snatches away the stated reason for the AUMF.

Those (both foreign and domestic) who don't want the war will be pushing for the president to concede to whatever deal Putin can bring to fruition. Refusal to do so on the President's part will make him look like a warmonger just scrapping for a fight. This would make him worse than his predecessor whom he was elected to replace for being such a warmonger.

Tell me where Obama is winning?

[Whisp]

20. the win is getting to a solution other than military ones.

I don't think you get that part. If you think Obama wants to go ahead and bomb when there may be other solutions, no matter who has part in them, just to save face? that's nuts. That is not how he operates, that is not his character.

[pampango]

11. Is this a Russian gambit or acceptance of a US gambit? Or a Russian gambit of a US gambit?

We may have allegations of 3-D gambit playing here soon.

[KoKo]

9. I think if House thinks that Russian Proposal could work....that might mean

it gives wiggle room for them to support it. Just in case the UN Inspectors can't get everything secured and an "Event" takes place they aren't left looking like they didn't support action.

Without the Russian proposal it was looking like they wouldn't get support in the House.

I would wish to see the House Vote NO as a clear message that without NATO and UN Resolution that our Presidents who chose to do these actions will have a hard time both Now and in the Future going off on their own due to inside pressure from MIC and LOBBIES/Think Tanks.

But....since so much that seems positive for peace efforts and reigning in the Unitary President in the past Decade has turned out badly....I would suspect that PBO would get his Votes based on that Congress now has some breathing room with the proposal. Senate and House Votes Yes to Authorize and they table it for futher action if the Russia/UN Inspectors proposal doesn't work out. Then PBO can go in without having the issue revisited by a busy Senate and House.

I HOPE THAT I AM WRONG and Congress takes this chance to regain their power to authorize war actions as serious.

[Waiting For Everyman]

17. B

Congress will give it to him to back up the peacful initiative. The vote will be a squeaker, probably.

[Avalux]

19. E. Means that the Syrian government is admitting they have a stockpile. n/t