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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:20 PM Feb 2012

20 Signs America Is Headed For Another Dust Bowl

For decades, the heartland of America has been the breadbasket of the world. Unfortunately, those days will shortly come to an end.The central United States is rapidly drying up and dust bowl conditions will soon return.

There are a couple of major reasons for this. Number one, the Ogallala Aquifer is being depleted at an astounding pace. The Ogallala Aquifer is one of the largest bodies of fresh water in the entire world, and water from it currently irrigates more than 15 million acres of crops. When that water is gone we will be in a world of hurt.

Secondly, drought conditions have become the "new normal" in many areas of Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas and other states in the middle part of the country. Scientists tell us that the wet conditions that we enjoyed for several decades after World War II were actually the exception to the rule and that most of time time the interior west is incredibly dry. They also tell us that when dust bowl conditions return to the area, they might stay with us a lot longer than a decade like they did during the 1930s.

Unfortunately, without water you cannot grow food, and with global food supplies as tight as they are right now we cannot afford to have a significant decrease in agricultural production. But it is not just the central United States that is experiencing the early stages of a major water crisis. Already many other areas around the nation are rapidly developing their own water problems. As supplies of fresh water get tighter and tighter, some really tough decisions are going to have to be made. Fresh water is absolutely essential to life, and it is going to become increasingly precious in the years ahead.

http://www.businessinsider.com/20-signs-america-is-headed-for-another-dust-bowl-2012-2

On early maps, the area of Oklahoma, Kansas, Colorado, Nebraska, Montana and the Dakotas was marked as the Great American Desert.

The Sand Hills of Nebraska, which are over the northern end of the Ogllala aquifer are actually sand dunes.

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20 Signs America Is Headed For Another Dust Bowl (Original Post) FarCenter Feb 2012 OP
That is a scary article... truebrit71 Feb 2012 #1
The Ogallala Aquifer is an interesting geological feature FarCenter Feb 2012 #2
That may be misleading. Much of the corn and other crops in Illinois and Iowa grow perfectly well jwirr Feb 2012 #10
The irrigation is over the Ogallala Aquifer FarCenter Feb 2012 #12
And that is exactly the area the legend talks about. Thanks. jwirr Feb 2012 #14
Du rec. Nt xchrom Feb 2012 #3
yikes FirstLight Feb 2012 #4
Soil and fresh water; love them or lose them. nt PufPuf23 Feb 2012 #5
Very very scary.... a kennedy Feb 2012 #6
We in deep shit. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #7
Please read "The Worst Hard Time" by Timothy Egan for a GREAT LiberalLoner Feb 2012 #8
I can't recommend this book enough! Retrograde Feb 2012 #11
Desalination and pumping fromsalt water sources would require huge amounts of energy FarCenter Feb 2012 #15
I'm in the middle of it now... a la izquierda Feb 2012 #16
Hysterical Article zipplewrath Feb 2012 #9
Yikes. AtomicKitten Feb 2012 #13
At least we don't water our crops with Brawndo.... yet. Initech Feb 2012 #17
...and then the Water Wars began... Ship of Fools Feb 2012 #18
Today Wis. Gov. Scott Walker just signed away our wet lands to developers..... midnight Feb 2012 #19
God! That man makes me sick to my stomach! Auntie Bush Feb 2012 #20
So guess it's ok to just throw in the towel and run a shale oil pipeline right though the middle of lonestarnot Feb 2012 #21
I wouldn't be the first FarCenter Feb 2012 #22
 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
2. The Ogallala Aquifer is an interesting geological feature
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:37 PM
Feb 2012

It is a huge underground lake filled with water from the melting of glaciers at the end of the last ice age. There is some recharge at the northern end, but it is slow, particularly if the precipitation there declines from present values.

Once the water in the Ogallala has been "mined", there is no more. All those irrigated corn fields that appear as green circles when you fly from Chicago to Denver will revert back to either wheat fields or grasslands for grazing, depending on how far west you are.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
10. That may be misleading. Much of the corn and other crops in Illinois and Iowa grow perfectly well
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 03:22 PM
Feb 2012

without irrigation. I think we need to take a serious look at what crops are being irrigated and where.

There is an old Native American legend that talks about the recurring draught in areas of the western prairie that should never have been used for crops in the first place. The people who taught me this legend were referring to the Dakotas and that would mean that it would be even more true regarding some other SW states.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
12. The irrigation is over the Ogallala Aquifer
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 03:40 PM
Feb 2012


Eastern and Central Nebraska and parts of Kansas are the most vulnerable areas. You can see all the pivot irrigation systems in Google maps satellite view.

In South Dakota you can't grow corn for grain reliable much farther west than Mitchell and Aberdeen, although you can grow silage in good years. I think that roughly the same longitude is the western boundary for reliable crops of dryland farmed corn in Nebraska and Kansas.

A lot of those areas didn't grow much corn before the pivot irrigation technology became available. Not being able to put water on the crop at the right time will decrease average yields and it will make yield much more variable.

FirstLight

(13,366 posts)
4. yikes
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 01:01 PM
Feb 2012

It's bad, and no way to make it better. desalination? I dunno... does that remove waste like crude oil or radiation or plastic?

all i can think of is how grateful i live next to a HUGE, deep, freshwater lake... for now

scary times ahead, guys... hang on for Mr Toad's wild ride

 

The Doctor.

(17,266 posts)
7. We in deep shit.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 01:09 PM
Feb 2012

The coming crash will be the perfect opportunity for the fascists to outright take over.

LiberalLoner

(9,762 posts)
8. Please read "The Worst Hard Time" by Timothy Egan for a GREAT
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 02:04 PM
Feb 2012

story about what life was like in the last dust bowl era. I'm hoping this time around the ground won't blow as badly, since farming methods have improved since then, but the loss of cropland will mean much higher prices for food and I would imagine actual food shortages, unless desalinization of sea water and pumping of that water can be done somehow on a huge scale.

That book is the best book I have ever read. I couldn't put it down, literally. I was on vacation in Hawaii at the time and didn't want to do anything but read that book. And since then, I reread it about once a year. Even if the subject matter didn't interest you, it's just an incredibly well-written book. Won a Pulitzer, too.

Retrograde

(10,163 posts)
11. I can't recommend this book enough!
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 03:39 PM
Feb 2012

It's a terrifying look at how humans managed to destroy an ecosystem that took millenia to build in little more than a generation. Unfortunately, many people - even those whose immediate ancestors were directly affected by it - haven't learned: they're still advocating overconsumption of natural resources for short-term process. But, then again, the Rapture is coming (or we're all going to get our own planets) so use, use, use.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
15. Desalination and pumping fromsalt water sources would require huge amounts of energy
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 03:45 PM
Feb 2012

The pending exhaustion of inexpensive fossil fuel sources precludes use of that source of energy. Fission nuclear energy is not likely to be deployed on this scale and it would require breeder reactors in order not to rapidly run out of fuel. Fusion isn't ready, and it may never be ready.

The US has plenty of food, even with reduced production due to lack of water and lack of fossil fuels for tillage, transportation, fertilizer production etc. However, it is unlikely to remain a food exporter. This will exacerbate the endemic famine as world population climbs past 9 billion.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
9. Hysterical Article
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 02:08 PM
Feb 2012

Look, there are fresh water issues looming no doubt. And it will cause socio-economic shifts. But the chicken little tone there should be put in a little bit of context.

#7 It seems like the middle part of the United States experiences a major drought almost every single year now. Last year, "the drought of 2011" virtually brought Texas agriculture to a standstill. More than 80 percent of the state of Texas experienced "exceptional drought" conditions at some point, and it was estimated that about 30 percent of the wheat fields in Texas were lost. Agricultural losses from the drought were estimated to be $3 billion in the state of Texas alone.


Take the preceding for example. Okay, it's been bad alot in Texas, and by the tone of the article, REAL bad recently. Did you notice? Really, did you have trouble getting something because of availability or cost?

Here's the dirty little secret. The world has the capacity to produce "too much" food. At least economically speaking. Many, if not most, countries find it necessary to institute all manner of laws from subsidies to tarrifs to prop up their domestic food production. If they didn't, they'd be swamped with food from other countries. The US has been taking huge amounts of land out of production because it isn't "needed" economically speaking. Yes, there is "world hunger". But world hunger, sad to say, is an ECONOMIC problem, not an agricultural problem. No one will transport food to people who can't pay for it. And it won't be a "cash crop" in a country filled with people who can't buy it.

Now, that's not to say that there isn't a problem here. For one, regardless of what's going on in the plains states, the price of food has been rising generally. Meat and dairy are prime examples. But a big part of that is increasing demand in countries like China. China can't produce all the corn they need, so they are importing it. Sugar and corn are being used to produce fuel elsewhere. And as expensive as you might think food is here, a big part of the "Arab Spring" was driven by food prices in those countries. In the US the typical family might spend 7 - 10% of their budget on food. In many middle eastern countries, that can be more like 30%. The price of fundamental staples like rice and flour were going up fast over there. And if we lose our ability to produce enough wheat here, we'll be in economic competition for the same materials.

The article touches on some good topics. We are using fresh water faster than we should, for things we shouldn't. But the article did little to discuss that, and what we could do to change, and change quickly. Industrialized food production will have to respond to water challenges, mostly by using less. That means better irrigation, and LESS irrigation. The price of fresh water will rise. We have to stop polluting water that could otherwise be used. That means better agricultural practices, and INDUSTRIAL practices.

African-american slavery caused a huge waste of labor in the production of agricultural products in the southern US. It distorted everything, including the price of land, and the price of crops, not to mention WHAT crops were produced. It was all out of whack with demand, not to mention advances in technology. When slavery ended, it didn't spell the end of the industries in the south, is meant the ALTERATION to more efficient methods, crops, and industries. Water will be similar. There is an abject waste of water in the world. There is rampant pollution, over irrigation, and inappropriate crop choices for locations and ecostructures. The trends mentioned in the article will cause these faults to be addressed. The "soft landing" described in the article will have to be exactly that. Steady changes in our economic and industrial realities to face the coming changes.

But we're not all gonna starve. We may even end up eating "better". Prolly gonna pay for it though.
 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
21. So guess it's ok to just throw in the towel and run a shale oil pipeline right though the middle of
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 11:45 PM
Feb 2012

it. NOT!

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