What is wrong with MSNBC? A Whole Morning of replaying the 9/11 tragedy as it happened? Really?

[swayne]

It is no different than watching a horrible car accident, over and over again--just on a national basis.

1, 5, 10, 20 years? I can get that. But this is year 12. Just sensation for sensation sake, this doesn't make sense to stop the news.

I don't think anyone who was old enough to know what was going on at the time will EVER forget what happened. No one asks "why" anymore....

I will now get off my soapbox.

Flame away...

[newfie11]

1. I agree with you

I turned them off.

[alsame]

2. Terror porn. nt

[Arkansas Granny]

3. No flames coming from me. I can remember the horror without being smacked in the face with it again.

It's a cheap trick playing on people's emotions.

[bobduca]

4. Kill your television

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. Cheap production. They already have all the footage, so all they have to do is roll it again.

[bunnies]

6. You must never forget....

to be afraid. NEVER!

[MgtPA]

7. You'll get no flame from me.

Everyone has seen this footage hundreds, if not thousands, of times since 2001. This just screams "Not only will we never forget, we will never EVER get over it! You guys won!"

I'm old enough to remember 12 years after Pearl Harbor, and I don't remember ever seeing this kind of disaster porn on the airwaves. Unseemly, imho.

[Boom Sound 416]

8. I have it on

As I do every year and one day my children will watch with me

I'm glad they do it.

I suppose most of you lived it thru your TV sets. Some of us did not and for me this helps heal the wound.

It's not fucking terror porn or tragedy fetish. It's innocent people who were faced with the most horrific of choices: burn to death or jump to your death. The very least we can do is cry a little for them today.

[sufrommich]

12. Most liberals agree with you.

This is just the DU contingent of tone deaf DU leftist hipsters living up to the claims right wingers love to make about liberals being "anti american".I swear they do it on purpose.

[Boom Sound 416]

13. I hope so

Because I'm pretty embarrassed for DU this morning.

It feels like a majority sentiment. I hope not.

[nolabear]

16. I understand. So often people who resist learning from something don't want to see it.

I think watching with a sense of sadness and humility and respect and the determination to rise above the terrible things we do to one another is a part of "moving on". We don't get over trauma; it remains with us always in some form, and finding a way to make that terrible event become a part of our resolve to make the world a better place is, in my opinion, the only way to win against thosw who would have it divide and paralyze and cripple us.

Be well, Boom Sound. And your children. And theirs.

[Boom Sound 416]

18. Thank you

[leftynyc]

20. Well put

And I agree that those for whom 9/11 was simply images on the TV have no idea what it was like to lose so many neighbors, relatives, police officers and firefighters all in one day.

[narnian60]

23. On the tenth anniversary

I saturated myself in all the coverage because I really never watched a lot of it in all the years after the attack. Cried for days after I watched and couldn't stop thinking about it. I won't watch a lot of it today, but that doesn't mean it won't be on my mind.

[Boom Sound 416]

24. That's what matters

It's a 365 day nightmare for 3000 families

We can shoulder a little of it with them on this day

[HappyMe]

25. I didn't watch it.

I can understand why people do though. I am watching the memorial reading of the names.

So very sad. So many lives lost and lives effected by this tragedy. People are still losing their lives due to illnesses related to the smoke and debris.

[Boom Sound 416]

26. I switch between both

It's a god damned crime how those people are being abandoned. From the bucket brigade to the volunteers handing out water to the various cleaning and security crews.

I spent months there nearly everyday. I'm lucky.

[HappyMe]

27. I'm glad you haven't gotten ill

because of the time you spent there.

It is shameful that those people seem to be forgotten. Getting sick simply because you volunteered to help is horrible in itself, let alone having the financial and psychological burden to bear.

[adirondacker]

9. They sure love to celebrate Bush and Cheney's ineptness. nt

[monmouth3]

10. TV is off for me and DU is coming up...n/t

[RevStPatrick]

11. I'm constantly amazed that there are still people who think MSNBC is some kind of...

..."Liberal" network.
Why?
Because they realized that there's a market for liberals on cable TV news, and so they hired, what, 3 or 4 liberals to host shows? They did that so that they could make money from advertisements from people who don't like O'Reilly and Hannity et al.

There's nothing "Liberal" about MSNBC.
It's part of a global conglomerate, and its bottom line is the bottom line.

Terror porn, just like everybody else.
Eyeballs in front of the ads.
Emotional manipulation in order to make one more susceptible to the charms of the advertisements.
Rachel may say plenty of good things, but she's just as much a part of the system, and therefore a part of the problem as her soul-mate Bill O'Reilly. Besides, he seems to provide her with half of her content...

[former9thward]

14. Maybe they are going to blame it on Syria this time instead of Iraq.

[global1]

15. It's Just Plain Laziness On The Part Of MSNBC.....

it's too easy to just replay the tapes of the events of the day versus actually trying to do a broadcast that perhaps says something or means something that could resonate 12 years later. That would take their people to actually delve into the issues and put a program together that perhaps we can learn from.

I saw another post on this board this a.m. about 1,140 WTC 9/11 responders that have cancer — and doctors say that number will grow. Now wouldn't that be a story to investigate and report on.

Or what about the post that talks about the 6 Weirdest things we've learned since 9/11. They are: #6. Terrorism Totally Works!;
#5. Apparently Anything Can Be Called "Terrorism"; #4. It's Actually Really Hard to Pull Off a Large-Scale Terror Attack; #3. The Era of Awesome "Good vs. Evil" Wars Is Over; #2. Patriotism Got Really Weird at Some Point; #1. Sometimes the Alarmist Tinfoil Hat Crowd Is Right. They could take any one of these six and build a story around it.

What about a follow-up story about the 9/11 Widows. Remember them? The Jersey Girls or Jersey Widows refers to four American women who lost their husbands in the September 11 attacks. All four, Kristen Breitweiser, Patty Casazza, Lorie Van Auken, and Mindy Kleinberg, were residents of New Jersey, and helped lobby the U.S. government to carry out an investigation into the terrorist attacks, resulting in the formation of the 9/11 Commission and the subsequent report released by the Commission.

Where are they now? What have they done with their lives? What are their feelings about the Commission looking back? Do they still have any lingering doubts about that day?

There are countless stories that can be done about 9/11 versus just replaying the tapes of the events of that day.

Replaying the events of that day and making people relive the emotions of that day is almost cruel. We need to analyze the events of the day. Discuss our feelings 12 years later and tell how we adjusted. We also need to stop living in the uncontrollable events of the past and get on with life. We need to talk about the future.

Yes - MSNBC is just being lazy and not providing us a real genuine journalistic commentary.

[Grammy23]

17. I agree with those who think this is too much.

When I saw that MSNBC planned to re-run the events of 9/11 .... in their entirety .... minute by minute...... I jumped up from my chair and shouted NO!!! I will not be exploited by the manipulation they are pulling on us.

I have no quarrel with remembering the dead. I have no issue with taking a moment to pause, reflect and honor them. But to replay the events of that day just seems wrong and is designed to wring every bit of emotion out of us. This is a day about healing and moving on, not for reopening the old wounds. And that is what I think "reliving" that day will do.

What I came away with and wrote to my niece in an email a little while ago is that we should ask ourselves what we learned that day. For me, and I suspect many, many others, we had it hammered home to us that we are not as "safe" as we thought we were. It was made very plain that the carefree days of thinking no one would ever dare to attack us on our own land are gone. In fact, they probably were never there in the first place, but we did have our illusions. Those illusions (delusions??) were ripped from our us that day, never to return.

But the sad fact is that personal 9-11s happen to us every day. Loved ones are taken by horrible accidents or injury and sometimes with absolutely no warning. No chance to say goodbye or even express how you feel. Do we dwell on that? Not if we are mentally healthy. If we want to torment ourselves, we dwell on these facts. What should happen is what I would hope was the BIG TAKE AWAY from 9-11.

Telling those we love and care about how we feel should be a priority. Not just something we mutter on a birthday, anniversary or other special time. Take the time today and every day to make sure your dear ones know how you feel. And show them. Do something unexpected to demonstrate how you feel. That is what I learned on 9-11 and all the time spent reliving that day by watching the TV is time wasted that you could be doing something constructive and demonstrative to show that you really learned something that day.

[swayne]

29. Thank you. Yours was a very eloquent statement.

[cbdo2007]

19. I don't mind it....it is interesting to replay the day as it happened

and to relive the shock as it was experienced in real time. I actually had a VHS tape running from right after the first plane hit and have watched it many times, still just trying to process all of it in my brain. It's still hard to comprehend two of the tallest buildings in the US collapsing in front of our eyes.

[TreasonousBastard]

21. Who forced you to watch?

[swayne]

28. I wasn't forced to watch. I was annoyed.

All it does is to confirm that terrorism actually CAN work to upset the normal balance of things.

Some of us just don't want to relive it, whether we knew people there or not.

[LanternWaste]

31. I imagine the same sentiment holds true vis-a-vis the attack on Pearl Harbor some 60 years ago

"Some of us just don't want to relive it, whether we knew people there or not..."

I imagine the same sentiment holds true vis-a-vis the attack on Pearl Harbor some 60 years ago, or the clips played of attacks on civil rights demonstrators in the 60's, et. al. Yet I've never heard anyone complaining about replays on documentaries, nor the odd news clip.

However, maybe some indeed do complain when those clips are also broadcast.

[Jesus Malverde]

22. Raw Emotion/ Replaces critical thinking...nt

[Cali_Democrat]

30. Do yourself a favor and turn off the TV. n/t

[frylock]

32. 9/11 porn

[hrmjustin]

33. Turn it off if you don't like it. For saome it is disturbing for others they need to see it.

God bless the souls that were lost.

[quinnox]

34. That is pretty sick

I hate how 9-11 has become a day where many Americans seem to take it as some sort of excuse for war mongering or using drones and military force against other countries.

By now, 12 years later, it has become a form of propaganda, something to do with installing a sick kind of nationalism and patriotism.

[markpkessinger]

35. No flames here!

I agree with you 100%. The way I see it, it is rather like a person who loses a family member in, say, a horrible car accident, who then, each year on the anniversary of the accident, calls the family together to watch surveillance video of the crash or video of the person's funeral. It is WAY past time to move on. Taking time to remember those who died is one thing; wallowing in the overwhelming grief and horror and tragedy of that day is quite another. Moving on, and allowing this event to recede into the past is NOT the same as forgetting; nor is a morbid annual replay of events the same as showing respect for the dead. And you have to wonder: who among the dead would want us to be doing this after all these years?

I understand that for the loved ones of those who died, the loss never goes away completely. But you know, I've experienced loss, too -- I lost both parents, 12 days apart, just a little over 9 months before 9-11-01. And I know that healing can take a long, long time. But at a certain point, you also have to assist in your own healing, rather than constantly picking at the wound.

[zipplewrath]

36. I "enjoy" it.

I'm kinda a unique case, because I'm sorta this amatuer historian kinda thingy. I find it interesting in many ways to view it through more modern/distant eyes. I don't get to see it every year, so the few years I have (and no, I don't watch every minute either) it is interesting in so many ways.

Make no mistake, I understand what MSNBC is doing. They are doing everything there "on the cheap". And as a few others have pointed out, they could do so much more in many ways. They could have a variation of "pop up notes" in it to delve into some of the difference.

This is one of these situations though that qualify as "TV's have knobs". It isn't for everyone, and there are other options. People who have particularly emotional responses that they would rather avoid, should exercise their options.