Should President Obama be allowed the opportunity to write about LBGTQ issues In Pravda?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

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[Gman]

1. Maybe at a later, more appropriate time

The foremost issue is Syria right now. But maybe thus can open a dialogue that would include LGBT issues at a later time.

[William769]

2. I see.

LGBT people thrown under the bus once again. How quaint.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. What's good for the goose is good for the gander./nt

[sibelian]

30. They should be dealt with now, of course

But that's not the reason they're being brought up now, Will.

[William769]

34. Maybe not by some

But if you look at my posting history you will see I am consistent.

And anyone on the other side using this as an excuse is just as bad if not worse because it shows they really didn't care to begin with.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. If he's going to lecture us shouldn't we be allowed to lecture him?

I also want to know why he's persecuting Jehovah's Witnesses?

Doesn't seem very small (l) liberal...

[sibelian]

25. Are you twelve?

WFT?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. I really don't know how to respond to your puerile invective so I won't.

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[el_bryanto]

4. Well as the managing editor of Pravda I have to say - it's none of your business!

Why would I care about what some Americanski Message Board has to say about what I should put in Pravda. I'm not allowing Obama the opportunity to write about LBGTQ issues in Pravda, but only because our salute to Borscht is running over. Really Borscht is so wonderful you can't have just one issue dedicated to it.

Bryant

[treestar]

6. That's the difference between the countries

Obama would not get that chance.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. Hey, I am all for this kind of paper diplomacy

hell, next we should have an official FB page where they can talk to each other and a twitter feed. Not just on LGBT, or war and peace, but hell, have them talk about fishing, and the best bait to use.

It would be good.

And this, self reflection and paper diplomacy would be nice to see at Xin Xuah and a few other papers.

Personally I found it refreshing.

[MNBrewer]

8. Did Putin write about LGBTQ issues somewhere here in the US?

I must have missed that.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. So freedom of the press is confined to only those issues where Vladimir Putin is comfortable?/nt

[MNBrewer]

13. Your comparison is a stupid "apples and oranges" case

[William769]

15. +1.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. "Did Putin write about LGBTQ issues somewhere here in the US?"

"We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal."

No, he wrote about human rights for everybody unless you believe lgbtq rights are human rights.


Oh, the invective was nice.

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[MNBrewer]

18. In an article that NOWHERE addresses the issue of homosexuality

Yet somehow you can insanely insist it is there.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. Keep them invectives coming

I think I know the source of your animus.

Here's the quote from Putin's editorial

"We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal'

If you think the global statement of equality that Mr. Putin rightfully endorses and the right of gays, lesbians, bisexuals, the transgendered, and the questioning are mutually exclusive there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion.

[MNBrewer]

23. You know nothing, absolutely nothing

You have SO much to learn, So much!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. I know enough to know that human rights are for humans

When you make the clarion call for human rights you shouldn't be persecuting gay folks or Jehovah's Witnesses for that matter.

[MNBrewer]

31. If the article had been about human rights

and it hadn't been mentioned as a throw-away line at the very end of the article

(the same way every US President says "God bless you and God bless America" at the end of every speech)

Then maybe you would have a point.

But you don't.

You're grasping at straws.

There are plenty of reasons to criticize Putin for the state of GLBT rights in Russia.

His article in The Times isn't one of them.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. If he can address American exceptionalism in the American press

Why would it be inappropriate for President Obama to address the rights of minorities In Russia in the Russian press?


If Nelson Mandela would have wrote that editorial I wouldn't have said a word.

[MNBrewer]

39. American Exceptionalism is BULL SHIT!

and

If the President wants to respond to Putin's Times op-ed, fine. It was about Syria and American intervention. Respond re: Syria and American intervention.

Putin deserves criticism on his GLBT policies, but not as a response to Putin's Time article from President Obama .

[vdogg]

10. The only thing you missed

Is the point of the OP. OP was simply using this example to point out the irony of Russia lecturing us on human rights issues. That said, Pres. Obama already spoke to Russian LGBT groups, and this may be retaliation for that. This is more a swipe at Obama than Putin actually trying to have a true dialogue with the American people. It's all propaganda and calculated to have the maximum effect.

[sibelian]

26. Russia lecturing the US on human rights is ironic...

....

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

[TBF]

45. "the irony of Russia lecturing us on human rights issues"

and vice versa. Seriously.

[snappyturtle]

11. Thank you. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. He invited the conversation, ergo

'We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal."

-Vladimir Putin

[MNBrewer]

14. Where do you get that Putin was addressing GLBT issues?

Are you being purposely obtuse?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. The fact that you can't even get the letters in the acronym in the right order

The fact that you can't even get the letters in the acronym in the right order shows the short shrift you give the issue. Some of us are concerned that our lesbian, bisexual. gay, transgendered, and questioning brothers and sisters are being persecuted are being persecuted in Russia.



"We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal."

-Vladimir Putin

If he's going to write about human rights then the president should be able to write about human rights in Russia.

[MNBrewer]

22. What "right order"?

I don't remember any vote taken as to what letters and in what order they should be listed.

and just WHO are you to lecture me about what it's like to be gay?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. I didn't know acronyms are subject to plebiscite.

NATO
PLO
UN
NAACP
USA

et cetera.

[MNBrewer]

29. What "ACRONYM" are you referring to?

GLBT, LGBT, etc. is not an acronym in the way that ANY of those you list are acronyms. Maybe you're aware of when the order of the words were formalized and I'm not, but I don't think that's likely at all.

[MNBrewer]

40. Figured it out yet?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

41. You seem upset.As an empathetic person I don't want to further contribute to your distress.

Have a nice rest of the day.

DSB

[Bluenorthwest]

43. There is no 'correct order'. And I wonder if you live in one of the 29 States that

still has legal discrimination against TBLG people in housing and employment? Because that's the case in 29 States. No Federal protections.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

44. I'm In California/nt

[sibelian]

28. There isn't an order, appropriator.

Take it from me.

[1-Old-Man]

17. What's stopping him?

[TheKentuckian]

32. I'm fine with that

[David__77]

35. Funny. "Pravda" is anti-Putin if it makes any difference.

I think that there are more a propos comparisons, such as Izvestia perhaps, as a quasi-state newspaper.

In any event, I would actually think that if Obama wanted to write on something like that, Izvestia would be likely to print it, and then enjoy the hailstorm is public criticism that would ensue.

[idwiyo]

38. I agree with you. They WILL print it. Putin himself will make them do it just to prove a point.

And they all will enjoy the publicity and PR.

[idwiyo]

37. Why not? Let me know when he tries to do so, please.

[Uncle Joe]

42. Absolutely, and if Putin stops him that would reflect poorly on any claim

Putin makes to respecting freedom of speech.

Thanks for the thread, DemocratSinceBirth.