Obama vs Putin "winning?"
Let me be blunt, I am getting tired of hearing people say that Obama or Putin "won" the game of chicken on Syria. Both are wrong.
Yes, Putin did turn Kerry's gaffe into a move, but Russia knew that Assad was going to keep charging headlong into the abyss, and eventually, he could have faced another Slobadon Milosevic scandal where Russians looked like the protectors of scum. It sure did not help that, while he had capital thanks to Snowden, he blew that capital by letting the Olympic games become a gay-bashing ceremony. It became popular to dislike the Russians again.
Yes, Obama was wise enough to take advantage of Kerry's gaffe. However, Obama followed the same series of moves that ruined his first term, only offer to do the right thing after you try to placate the right wing, Bibi Netanyahu, and others who want that war in the Middle east. He used the red line talk, which made him look like W.
Both of these fools could have done the right thing years ago. Putin could have offered to help xfer chemical weapons into UN custody, and Obama could have proposed it, long before his then SOS had to do her little macho talk about how "Assad must go." It says a lot when Kerry bumbles and makes peace, where Hillary was clear, and went full steam ahead in the war effort.
No one deserves any Halos here, but frankly, I will take an UGLY win over a pretty loss. If getting these idiots drunk would make for world peace, I would vote on pouring Jack Daniels and Vodka down all their throats!
PS: to all the Putin praisers, I will remember you during the Winter Olympics. I guess both Obama haters and Obama lovers can drive the Bus over LGBT, true equality!
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and the anti-gay laws is just inspiring. 
Without that vote...
Me too. 
