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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWife who pushed husband off cliff is released pending trial, without bond!
Federal prosecutors argued at a hearing on Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Missoula that Graham should be jailed until trial because she had sent text messages that suggested she was possibly suicidal, according to legal documents.
Lynch on Thursday sided with Graham's public defenders, who previously contended that their client met key conditions that favored her release in that she was neither a flight risk nor a danger to the community.
Lynch said he was ordering mental health treatment for Graham "to alleviate any risk that she might harm herself."
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/13/20472899-newlywed-accused-of-pushing-husband-off-cliff-is-freed-ahead-of-trial?lite&lite=obinsite
Now...Im just wondering as I am sure many people are, if a man murders his wife during a domestic dispute, he's going to get equal treatment by the federal courts and get released without bond too, right?
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)Bail is not denied all that often, though it might be set "high" enough to be out of reach for many.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)None.
If a man is arrested for murdering his wife during a domestic dispute, he is not going to touch the street without some massive bail amount. You know that, I know that.
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)restraining orders in domestic violence.... The mortality statistics bear this out, despite your need to feel personally victimized.
Safetykitten
(5,162 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Hence the reason for extremely lenient No Bail release
Now if it was a man that did this feminist here on DU would be clamoring for the Gas Chamber
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)BainsBane
(53,032 posts)you'd been born in Mexico, you could be president now.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)For a murder charge. I don't get it.
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)davidn3600
(6,342 posts)There are other studies that have shown gender disparity in criminal cases, but not as pronounced as Prof. Starr's findings. This is because she is looking at "a larger swath of the criminal justice process" in her analysis, she said. The paper states, "Existing studies have typically focused on single stages of the criminal process in isolation"in particular, the judge's final sentencing decision. These studies compare actual sentencing outcomes after controlling for the recommended sentence associated with the defendant's ultimate conviction. The problem with this, Starr explains, is that "the key control variable is itself the result of a host of discretionary decisions made earlier in the justice process"including prosecutors' charging and plea-bargaining decisions. Starr's research incorporates disparities found at those earlier stages, and finds that "more disparity is introduced at each phase of the justice process."
After estimating the amount of disparity left unexplained by the arrest offense and other control variables, the paper explores "why these gaps existand, in particular, whether unobserved differences between men and women might justify them." Prof. Starr explores several potential mitigating factors, such as the "girlfriend theory" (that "women might be viewed as mere accessories of their male romantic partners" , the role of women as primary caregivers to their children, and the "theory that female defendants receive leniency because they are more cooperative with the government." Although each of these theories found some support in the data, they did not appear capable of explaining anything close to the total disparity that Prof. Starr found.
http://www.law.umich.edu/newsandinfo/features/Pages/starr_gender_disparities.aspx
The message is clear...if you are a woman and you want to kill your husband...do it in a national park.
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)Frankly, I don't think a male OR female charged with murder should get bail, but I am not surprised that they do under the criteria defined.
Logical
(22,457 posts)hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)Response to hlthe2b (Reply #27)
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davidn3600
(6,342 posts)How much money you want to bet she gets less than the average man would get in this kind of case?
Judge already showing leniency right off the bat.
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)bail, I don't think it is that simple.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)TransitJohn
(6,932 posts)On edit: Or at least bail so high as to be unattainable.
brooklynite
(94,520 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)If the genders were reversed, this thread would be pushing 50 replies, if not more.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Literally.
demwing
(16,916 posts)If he was a flight risk he would have flown.
Too soon?
Buns_of_Fire
(17,175 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)you came right out and said it.
I am clearly the better human.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Released on bond pending trial. Fairly famous case. (Did you know he was granted a new trial in July???)
It happens a lot, despite the assurance upthread that it's impossible.
Logical
(22,457 posts)davidn3600
(6,342 posts)People can bond out on murder. That's not the point. Usually it's hundreds of thousands of dollars to do it.
She is released with $0 bail. On MURDER! Has a man who murders his wife ever been given that? If you can show me a case, I would love to see it. There would be outrage if there was.
Guy I knew several years ago had a bond of $10,000 on felony drug possession. But people get out for $0 for pushing their husband off a cliff?
This justice system is such bullshit. Don't try to tell me it's fair and impartial.
mzmolly
(50,992 posts)it does.
WolverineDG
(22,298 posts)& he was released on a $5000 personal recognizance bond. Of course, he has friends in high places, but I'm sure that had nothing to do with it.....
as for this case, I''m stunned they let her out on bail.
gopiscrap
(23,758 posts)(I had cancer a second time uninsured and kept on filing bankruptcies in order to keep getting treatment) and I was charged with contempt of Federal Court and I sure as fuck didn't get any bail. I stayed in Jail from May 1 until Sept 3 when I got sentenced.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)No one who is accused of first or second degree murder should be out on bail without a six plus digit bail and various other assurances. And even then, if there is additional history of violence beyond the one occurrence they should be held without any offer of bail.
It's hard to imagine a man being let out basically ROR (Released on Own Recognizance) on murder in any situation.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)be held or given a high bail.
No one should be held or given a very high bail based on what they are accused of.
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)He IS kind of pushy.
JBoy
(8,021 posts)undeterred
(34,658 posts)Niceguy1
(2,467 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Man killed by wife = funny
mzmolly
(50,992 posts)She's not a danger? She pushed a man off a frigging cliff!
morningfog
(18,115 posts)It was a crime a passion, the only other person in the relationship is dead. If the person was not a flight risk, all other things being equal, a man would be out pre-trial too. And both should be.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)That is if she did it. I mean it is a horrible story. God bless his soul.