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What gun fundamentalists are saying about you this very moment
I also find it repulsive that ....
many anti's refuse to spend a moments thought about the victims, and instead seek to exploit tragedies to promote reactionary restrictions on firearm ownership that would have done little or nothing to prevent such tragedies from happening in the first place.
many anti's refuse to spend a moments thought about the victims, and instead seek to exploit tragedies to promote reactionary restrictions on firearm ownership that would have done little or nothing to prevent such tragedies from happening in the first place.
Because they [gun control supporters] only scream about gun deaths, and not all murders and suicides. Even then, only if it is affluent white people. Because they can't come up with a logical argument but instead uses various logical fallacies and propaganda techniques to push their point. Most of it is emotional rhetoric and name calling, propaganda. Why? The gun prohibitionist lobby are elitists funded by a few billionaires. There is no evidence of gun laws saving lives anywhere in the world, at least peer reviewed studies done by legitimate researchers.
First, I wish to draw your attention to a recent study that shows a clear link between numbers of guns and homicide within the US. http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/09/13/2617131/largest-gun-study-guns-murder/
Now, they say we are "elites" bought and paid for by billionaires. People have been working for gun control for decades, but they are furious that Michael Bloomberg has recently started trying to counter the BILLIONS from the domestic military industrial complex that seeks to put more guns in the hands of more people. Bloomberg has contributed to campaigns for just a few years, and his money pales in comparison to the corporate murder industry that gun evangelists stump for. They insist the gun lobby's billions amounts to "grassroots" organization, but Bloomberg's money is illegitimate. They spew NRA talking points, while claiming we--you, me, and everyone who doesn't think more guns are the answer--are bought and paid for. The very fact that you think the continuous loss of life from gun violence means something is wrong with gun policy in this nation makes you illegitimate and elitist. The majority of Americans are hateful because we don't prioritize their guns above our own children. They insist "their rights trump our dead." Truly, that phrase is from a pro-2a speech they lauded as the best in history. Dead children should not be discussed. They don't matter. If we talk about victims of gun violence we are "using them" for political purposes. Then they turn around and accuse us of not caring about gun shot victims, while they can't let a thread go by without defending a shooter or saying the death really isn't important.
People in poor urban neighborhoods work for gun control, while the gun fundies sit on their rural spreads filled with guns and cars and accuse us of being "elites." I guess having my car shot up and hearing gun shot fire outside the window of my rented apt. every couple of months makes me an elite compared to someone who owns extensive property in two or more states. (I'm guessing this is the GOP definition of elite--if you read a book or value education, you're an elite. That has nothing to do with privilege or income).
These same people work relentlessly to shut down threads about victims of gun violence they insist we don't care about. They send an SOP alert on every thread because they don't want you to know that guns kill people, including children, each and every day. In fact, more Americans have died from gun violence since 1968 than in ALL OF THE WARS in US history. They insist the numbers are not important. Suicide victims don't account (apparently they deserve to die from mental illness). Somewhere in the world, there exist a few countries with higher homicide rates than the US. The fact that more people die in the Congo and Honduras, they insist, means gun violence isn't a problem in the US. Our homicide rate is higher than any other major industrialized nation. Researchers have proven time and time again (see the CSPAN podcast of the recent conference on gun violence at Stanford University) that the key variable distinguishing other nations of comparable wealth is the high level of gun ownership, and that is what counts for our disproportionately high homicide rate. Research does in fact exist, though gun fundies refuse to read it. When they do look at the data, they distort it by claiming it says the very opposite of what it really does. They pretend to sound authoritative, so the uninformed might be tempted to think they know what they are talking about. If you examine their claims and numbers, however, you will find they are often distorted. They participate in a nation-wide propaganda campaign to deceive the American public. I'm not sure how many of them know they are promoting false information, if they lack the capacity to examine evidence, or if their need for self deception is so great they block out everything that doesn't fit their clearly absurd contention that gun proliferation has absolutely nothing to do with homicide. Regardless, take great care before deciding to believe them.
The NRA is currently working to give teenagers access to guns. They want anyone to have access to a gun without identification or training. They recall Democratic politicians, and they lie to the public by claiming the government is trying to take away their guns. Their lackeys on the internet spread their propaganda day after day. They distort data and research, and just plain lie--all in support of the corporate gun lobby. These are largely people who live in rural areas and small towns who work to promote gun proliferation in urban areas like Chicago, hundreds of miles away from them. These are the interests that brought about the end of gun control in DC and imposed concealed carry on Chicago. We are living in the America the gun cabal made. Every blood-drenched corpse is a notch in the belt of the domestic murder industry.
What the gun cabal despises most is democracy. They depend on the domestic murder industry to buy off and pressure politicians to promote their agenda, and the fact someone like Bloomberg tries to counter a fraction of what the NRA and Koch Brothers funnel to Republican politicians enrages them. They can't stand the fact that the American people want background checks, limits on mass murder magazines, or limitations on the kinds of weapons individuals can own. They ignore polling data (except for GOP fav Gallop on gun ownership, which they insist is more reliable than Nate Silver because it tells them what they want to hear.) They refuse to acknowledge the Daily Kos SEIU polling that has consistently shown overwhelming support for expanded background checks (over 90%), limits on magazine sizes, and assault weapons. If it doesn't tell them what they want to hear, they ignore it or insist it isn't valid. Ask yourself what kind of people want to make sure criminals have unrestricted access to guns? Who would want to make sure any and everyone can buy guns online without screening for felony convictions? Why would a law-abiding gun owner avoid background checks? Why would some claim to support background checks yet oppose the actual legislation--a separate amendment dedicated ONLY to background checks that failed early this year? Does that make sense on any level? If you want to know what lurks with your midst on this site, look in on the appropriate groups to see what they are saying about you. You should know exactly what you are dealing with.
Now the truth is these people are not nearly as important as the victims of today's massacre. The problem, however, is it is they and people like them who work tirelessly to make sure NO reforms can be enacted. They are already spreading their talking points in the Gungeon and will soon spread it throughout DU and the rest of the internet. They will do everything they can to misinform you. They stand in the way of the most modest measures designed to save human lives. Remember their core ideology expressed in a speech heralded in the Gungeon: Their rights--their guns--trump our dead. Your children are meaningless.
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and I have thick skin. No harm no foul 
Now to bed with me. My daughter broke her arm last week riding her brother's bike without a helmet. If I wasn't so upset about the arm I would have killed her. She needs to go in before school to make up tests she missed.
