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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDriverless will replace between 5 and 25 million pro drivers within a few yrs.
The first phase will require driver pretend people to placate local officials they are safe. These of course will be min wage jobs. Another causality of the Cyber-era.
Would you ride in a NY Taxi without a driver?
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
CK_John
(10,005 posts)krispos42
(49,445 posts)I think it's called "When Can I Let Go of the Wheel?"
Cadillac is planning on introducing SuperCruise Control in 2017 or 2018; in the story the author test-drives it. The system keeps the car in the lane entirely automatically by using cameras to identify the lines on the road. It also maintains separation between vehicles. I think in a test it was able to brake sharply and swerve to avoid hitting an object.
With cheap radar, sonar, and cameras, cheap computing power to process the information, and very accurate GPS units, I can see this becoming an option on luxury cars within a decade. The driver would simply monitor the car as it drives itself.
A decade after that, the first completely self-driving cars will be available.
What remains to be solved it the legalities of what happens when a computer-controlled car crashes, and how ethical choices will be made during emergencies.
For example, a little kid darts out into traffic, too close for the computer-controlled car to stop even with lightening-fast reflexes. The car swerves sharply and crashes into a car in the adjoining lane. Who's at fault for the injuries and damages incurred?
What happened when a deer or other four-footed animal jumps in front of a car? What is the flowchart of decisions?
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Of course, it is a Cadillac, so it presumably will be driven only in areas where such lines are actually maintained.
krispos42
(49,445 posts):-D
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)I'm in San Jose.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)is single driver truck convoys...
http://www.techhive.com/article/2046262/the-first-driverless-cars-will-actually-be-a-bunch-of-trucks.html
Suppose Walmart has 3 trucks that need to go to a certain store. They only need a driver in the lead truck,
the other 2 trucks can automatically follow the first.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Reuters) - Electric car company Tesla Motors is working to produce a car capable of running on "auto-pilot" within the next three years, CEO Elon Musk said, joining tech giant Google and rival carmakers in the race to roll a driverless car into the market.
The California-based company's autonomous car would allow the driver to hand 90 percent of the control of the car over to the vehicle's computer system, Musk said in an interview with the Financial Times newspaper.
Fully autonomous cars would take longer to develop, he said.
http://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-driverless-cars-elon-musk-2013-9
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)would make it possible to live without owning a car. Without the driver, it'd be a lot cheaper than taxis are today.
And if enough people shed their cars, parking lots get converted into parkland. Or affordable housing. And think of all the garages waiting to become in-law units (as is already happening, illegally, in SF).
BKH70041
(961 posts)Currently, the only time I'm able to take a nap in the car while driving is when the road is straight and I have the car pointed straight.
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)That's not how you do it. I let one eye sleep at a time. Much safer.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)And there's no money to fix the current highways, so you're not going to see this for a very long time.
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)...it's not like they are imbedding anything into the pavement.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)Accidents are why.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...and not just China.
One of the upsides of taking taxis is that you can learn a lot about so many different countries.
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)with professional drivers of trains and buses.
Koko Ware
(107 posts)Tom_Foolery
(4,691 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,175 posts)Your admittance ticket allows you to control your favorite car for, say, ten minutes. But if you jump the track, you (and your pit crew) are the ones who have to run out there and put it back in the slot.
Less gas (but probably a lot more electricity), fewer injuries (if you're nimble), and a true sense of involvement. What's not to love?
It could be as big as full-contact baseball!
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)1-Old-Man
(2,667 posts)In a country were we won't repave the roads its hard to immagine the work being done to prepare for the automated vehicles and then its even harder to immagine commercial users being willing to spend the money for the vehicle systems that will of necessity be required. Oh, and what about insurance costs - who would assume the liability for machinery failure?
CK_John
(10,005 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)hfojvt
(37,573 posts)when I can print one out on my 3-D printer.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Oh, everyone inside dies when it crashes into another driverless car
1-Old-Man
(2,667 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Dead passengers and dead pedestrians everywhere.
Sgent
(5,857 posts)modern jets are essentially fully automated, from just after takeoff to flaring the plane and decelerating after touchdown.
The highest paid people outside of executives in the airline industry are the pilots.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Remember the jet that landed short of runway and tail broke off, recently?
Turns out, one of the problems turned out to be that because there ARE computer/auto pilot systems, the pilots were being trained more as computer operators than actually being able to fly a plane.
The FAA quickly announced 2 things few days after the crash:
1. Pilots and co-pilots training hours had to increase from 250 to 1500 ( I may be off on the exact numbers, but the ratio is accurate)
2. Auto pilot landings were now a no-no. Gotta do it manually.
So, let's think a moment about how we train people to drive
and then think about what happens in a second or 2 on any freeway........
add 1/2 inch of snow
Watch insurance premiums climb.
Followed by lawsuits.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)SFO is notoriously tricky to land in, seeing as how its runways jut out into the Bay, where winds are high enough that yesterday's sailing races were canceled.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)People who think this is going to happen don't really understand that drivers do more than make a vehicle go places.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)CK_John
(10,005 posts)and get actual numbers.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)<a href="http://imgur.com/LWZAa7f"><img src="" title="Hosted by imgur.com"/></a>
LOL!
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)lordsummerisle
(4,651 posts)Like to fly often say they don't like the loss of control they experience while flying. I can't imagine them ceding control in a car...
CK_John
(10,005 posts)unless the auto is on auto the hoards will join in.
Rex
(65,616 posts)nt.