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lunasun

(21,646 posts)
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 11:04 PM Sep 2013

Soldier and his wife, 23, 'had sex with their dogs and posted homemade bestiality porn films online

A Fort Bragg soldier and his young wife have been charged with making pornographic videos with dogs and then posting them online.

Ruben and Amber Fox, both 23 years old, were arrested Monday in Raeford, a town just south of the sprawling U.S. Army base in North Carolina.

The Foxes are charged with multiple counts of crimes against nature involving bestiality, disseminating obscene materials and conspiracy. Mrs Fox also is charged with soliciting a crime against nature.
The couple got married in May 2011. They have two dogs named Belfyre and Pearl, as well as three cats.

On Sunday, a day before her arrest, Mrs Fox posted a telling message on Facebook asking God to protect her family.

'Please help our oppressors to have mercy and see the truth. Please guide them and touch them Lord with your love. Please help guide us back to your holy path and do your holy work,' she wrote.

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Soldier and his wife, 23, 'had sex with their dogs and posted homemade bestiality porn films online (Original Post) lunasun Sep 2013 OP
Idiots gopiscrap Sep 2013 #1
I cannot for the life of me imagine anyone wanting to have sex with animals - but are they doing Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #2
NON-consenting animals. Tigress DEM Sep 2013 #3
Having my dog castrated was non-consensual also - I'm sure one would be prosecuted for having a Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #5
Surely, we don't want Rick Santorum proven correct. 1000words Sep 2013 #11
IN your original post you said MORAL reasons. Tigress DEM Sep 2013 #19
I cannot even conceive of anyone even having a fleeting thought of sex with animals. Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #22
Poor animals. defacto7 Sep 2013 #4
Fort Bragg is the Florida of US military bases. I just clicked to see if it was Canadian pongos. Monk06 Sep 2013 #6
What a hypocrite--I imagine Saint Francis of Assisi would have something to say to Miss Facebook MADem Sep 2013 #7
I am not familiar with facebook details. Is there a way to grantcart Sep 2013 #27
I think she can write a "status update" to that effect!!!! nt MADem Sep 2013 #35
~facepalm~ Marrah_G Sep 2013 #8
there used to be an old du saying"This post is useless without pictures" dembotoz Sep 2013 #9
The link in OP has pics of dogs and creeps lunasun Sep 2013 #12
I can't even think of a comment sarisataka Sep 2013 #10
So this is Santorum's "Man on dog"? mick063 Sep 2013 #13
Ricky's been waiting 10 years for this story Blue Owl Sep 2013 #17
Whoa. Just whoa. Inkfreak Sep 2013 #14
"Help our oppressors to have mercy and see the truth"? jmowreader Sep 2013 #15
ROFLMFAO! SomethingFishy Sep 2013 #38
Judging by the size of the assault rifle he is posing with in one of the pics in the article... SunSeeker Sep 2013 #16
It's a machinegun, not an assault rifle jmowreader Sep 2013 #23
Whatever. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #34
Here's a picture of him BainsBane Sep 2013 #18
OMG Tigress DEM Sep 2013 #20
And here is a picture of her snooper2 Sep 2013 #31
And the point to posting her picture is...? Lancero Sep 2013 #40
Foxes and Dogs Can Do That? jberryhill Sep 2013 #21
You can always count on the Daily Mail for some titillatingly disgusting crap. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #24
Which makes me wonder why in hell it's posted here Hekate Sep 2013 #26
And then you wasted more time posting about it. onenote Sep 2013 #41
Those are two truly fucked up people davidpdx Sep 2013 #25
I believe that's technically called ruff-riding. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #28
Ruff! AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #29
The Foxes and The Hounds? Orrex Sep 2013 #30
Doggy style! KamaAina Sep 2013 #32
On a serious note, why is this a "crime against nature" Orrex Sep 2013 #33
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #36
. stevenleser Sep 2013 #37
Fox... Lancero Sep 2013 #39
I'll bet their parents are so proud..... panader0 Sep 2013 #42

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
2. I cannot for the life of me imagine anyone wanting to have sex with animals - but are they doing
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 11:14 PM
Sep 2013

something that hurts the animals or causes them pain? If they are - they are committing animal cruelty. And I would support prosecuting animal cruelty. But as far as moral charge against it - I don't see the point.

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)
3. NON-consenting animals.
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 11:16 PM
Sep 2013

Also in general unless they are really big dogs, size MAY very well matter.

Besides ... ewww.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
5. Having my dog castrated was non-consensual also - I'm sure one would be prosecuted for having a
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 11:23 PM
Sep 2013

human non-consensually castrated. Having homeless animals put to sleep is certainly non-consensual and would be a crime against humanity if committed against people. So, I don't think issues of consent apply. Animal cruelty issues certainly would apply if it causes pain or harms the animal. Don't get me wrong - I certainly cannot imagine anyone wanting to have sex with animals. But I'm not sure of the logic as to why it would be a crime in itself apart from issues of causing pain or inflicting harm.

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
11. Surely, we don't want Rick Santorum proven correct.
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 11:31 PM
Sep 2013

If you allow folks to congress with their dog, they're gonna end up wanting to marry them.

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)
19. IN your original post you said MORAL reasons.
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 11:50 PM
Sep 2013

Dealing with animal overpopulation in the only practical means available in the most humane methods possible is in line with responsible pet ownership. Men and women get themselves fixed and some people have do not resuscitate orders.

Responsible pet owners don't beat their animals or neglect them and they sure as hell don't have sex with them.

FUCKING something you own or someone you have power over is RAPE and when it's an animal it's a morally repugnant, species whackadoo kind of thing. When it's your kid, it's incest and being a damn pedophile.

TWO words - Bird Flu.

Maybe no one knows if the origin of syphilis is from some lonely shepherd who brought it home to the wife. But many of the diseases that are hardest to treat can cross species lines, so why take that chance?

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
22. I cannot even conceive of anyone even having a fleeting thought of sex with animals.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:02 AM
Sep 2013

Although admittedly my too doggies do crawl up on the bed next to me sometimes. But, our relationship is purely Platonic. If an action can cause harm or pain or risk a health hazard - I think it can and should be prosecuted under those rules. I don't agree with prosecuting an offense under the excuse, "Yuk, the thought of it makes me sick." Oral sex was banned in most states until recently even between married adult couples on that basis. But all of that aside. I don't understand why on anyone would want to have sex with animals. And if they are causing pain, harm or a health hazard then it should be forbidden on that basis.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
4. Poor animals.
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 11:17 PM
Sep 2013

I do mean the canine ones. The other two should be in long term therapy.

edit: Crime against nature? That one is a little vague, don't you think? Animal cruelty probably looking at how small those dogs are.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. What a hypocrite--I imagine Saint Francis of Assisi would have something to say to Miss Facebook
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 11:24 PM
Sep 2013

about how those two shits treat their animals.

Baastids!

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
27. I am not familiar with facebook details. Is there a way to
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:23 PM
Sep 2013

change your status to "arrested for bestiality"?

dembotoz

(16,802 posts)
9. there used to be an old du saying"This post is useless without pictures"
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 11:29 PM
Sep 2013

no i am not into sex with animals
this post would have been an ideal spot for that saying

just saying

Blue Owl

(50,355 posts)
17. Ricky's been waiting 10 years for this story
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 11:45 PM
Sep 2013

Only to find out it wasn't some evil liberal, but one of his own...

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
14. Whoa. Just whoa.
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 11:42 PM
Sep 2013

I was stationed at Bragg for just over 2yrs. Not one of my favorite places. Doesn't have much to do with the above story but that's about all I can say atm.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
38. ROFLMFAO!
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 03:40 PM
Sep 2013
that was fucking hilarious.

And you have to wonder how they can use the same religion that "man on dog" Santorum subscribes to to justify the.. dogfucking.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
16. Judging by the size of the assault rifle he is posing with in one of the pics in the article...
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 11:44 PM
Sep 2013

I am guessing there is a reason he thinks his anatomy is appropriate for sex with small dogs.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
23. It's a machinegun, not an assault rifle
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:56 AM
Sep 2013

That there is a Light Machine Gun, M249. Nice gun, and completely unobtainable on the civilian market because it's full auto ONLY.

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)
20. OMG
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 11:53 PM
Sep 2013

Now that I've vented the outrage about being really bad pet owners.....

I look at his pic and remember they have cats too....



MY caption for this pic:
"Alright pussy-cat, pony it up."


ALTHOUGH I'D SHOW HIM WHERE TO PUT THAT GUN IF HE ACTUALLY DID THAT TO ONE OF HIS CATS.





 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
31. And here is a picture of her
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:43 PM
Sep 2013

Just in case you run across them, spread the images around!

Have to ensure they show up in google image search in 10 years

Amber Fox

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
40. And the point to posting her picture is...?
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 03:43 PM
Sep 2013

Slut shaming much?

Actually, on second thought... proceed.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
21. Foxes and Dogs Can Do That?
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 11:57 PM
Sep 2013

Were the cats involved?

They didn't make the dogs have sex with the cats, did they? That would just be wrong.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
24. You can always count on the Daily Mail for some titillatingly disgusting crap.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 02:09 AM
Sep 2013

It's a big world. People do strange shit sometimes. I've already wasted too much time thinking about this.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
25. Those are two truly fucked up people
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 02:18 AM
Sep 2013

I can't decide whether jail or a mental hospital would be better for them. The husband will not only have to deal with the civilian police and court, but probably will get kicked out of the military with a dishonorable discharge.

Orrex

(63,207 posts)
33. On a serious note, why is this a "crime against nature"
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:07 PM
Sep 2013

But the dumping of thousands of gallons of fracking wastewater is typically considered a minor permit violation?

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