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snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 01:49 PM Sep 2013

'All Muslims leave... we only want to kill non-Muslims': Somalian terrorist group al-Shabaab blamed

'All Muslims leave... we only want to kill non-Muslims': Gunmen massacre at least 22 in Kenyan shop






Gunmen massacre at least 22 in Kenyan shopping mall after releasing anyone who could prove they were Islamic by reciting a prayer

At least two dozen people, wounded and dead, were wheeled out on stretchers and in shopping trolleys by security guards, while others were seen walking out of the building, clutching bloodied clothing around their injuries.

Locals and tourists who were out shopping on the sunny Saturday in Kenya ran screaming from the building and cars were left abandoned as attackers threw grenades and fired AK47s.

Over the course of an hour people streamed from the building, at least half a dozen covered in blood and clutching small children to them.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2427892/Nairobi-mall-Gunmen-massacred-22-Kenyan-shopping-centre-targeted-non-Islamics.html






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'All Muslims leave... we only want to kill non-Muslims': Somalian terrorist group al-Shabaab blamed (Original Post) snagglepuss Sep 2013 OP
OMG treestar Sep 2013 #1
Ah yes. A religion of Peace pscot Sep 2013 #2
please. yes, this is awful. cali Sep 2013 #3
this is DU cali.. it's acceptable to be bigoted against any and all religions here. dionysus Sep 2013 #4
so sadly true. ironic, because those who are so hateful about religion cali Sep 2013 #8
tis true. i think religion is a fairy tale, but i shall not denigrate anyone who peacefully follows dionysus Sep 2013 #11
What are they doing to end the violence? pscot Sep 2013 #6
Who is "they"? Many people who are muslim are working for peace and tolerance. Who is "they"? uppityperson Sep 2013 #9
Individual acts, collective responsibility LittleBlue Sep 2013 #13
That's really unfair to the Islam religion. furious Sep 2013 #17
No true Scotsman fallacy... Humanist_Activist Sep 2013 #21
I didn't say they weren't Muslims, furious Sep 2013 #22
I have come to the conclusion that the meaning of this oft quoted statement snagglepuss Sep 2013 #7
Careful! pscot Sep 2013 #10
if the shoe fits... wear it. christianity and islam have both been used for terrible violence dionysus Sep 2013 #12
In Syria, it is Muslims killing Muslims FarCenter Sep 2013 #23
I think you might be onto something there. n/t Skip Intro Sep 2013 #16
Just as we see sarisataka Sep 2013 #18
Horrifying! MoonRiver Sep 2013 #5
What if you found out that adavid Sep 2013 #14
Two wrongs don't make a right and what do Kenyans have to do with US drone attacks? snagglepuss Sep 2013 #15
I will still condemn it. furious Sep 2013 #20
Blowback maybe but they have been at this terrorist game a while maddezmom Sep 2013 #24
You're quoting the Daily Mail? malaise Sep 2013 #19
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
3. please. yes, this is awful.
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 01:56 PM
Sep 2013

but there are hundreds of millions of Muslims who don't do this shit or support it.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
8. so sadly true. ironic, because those who are so hateful about religion
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 02:12 PM
Sep 2013

are mirroring the very intolerance they decry.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
11. tis true. i think religion is a fairy tale, but i shall not denigrate anyone who peacefully follows
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 04:30 PM
Sep 2013

one.

 

furious

(202 posts)
17. That's really unfair to the Islam religion.
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 05:00 PM
Sep 2013

The ratio of peaceful Muslims to Jihadists is far off the chart.
There are hundreds of millions of Muslims trying to counter the image of Islam that these Jihadists are trying to portray to the world.
The Jihadists are a miniscule part of Islam, and they are not true Muslims.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
21. No true Scotsman fallacy...
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 05:15 PM
Sep 2013

who are you to say that they are not true Muslims? Anyone can be assholes, doesn't mean they aren't part of their respective groups.

Islam, like any religion, has many absurdities and evil shit in it, and some people act that shit out, because they think they are following the "true path" whatever that is, but what do you expect from having holy texts that are subject to interpretation, Christians do the same thing, as do those of every other religion.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
7. I have come to the conclusion that the meaning of this oft quoted statement
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 02:06 PM
Sep 2013

is that peace refers to a peaceful state of mind, a mind not anxious which is the main selling point of of complete submission. Peace is not reconciliation with enemies but the removal of them and of those who threaten the drug-like bliss of submission.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
12. if the shoe fits... wear it. christianity and islam have both been used for terrible violence
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 04:32 PM
Sep 2013

throughout history.

in the case of Ireland, it was Christians killing Christians with bombs and guns. schoolkids even.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
23. In Syria, it is Muslims killing Muslims
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 06:12 PM
Sep 2013

Of course in both cases, it was true believers killing heretics.

Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius

sarisataka

(18,649 posts)
18. Just as we see
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 05:02 PM
Sep 2013

Christians in this country who believe they are good examples of their religion even though they treat some major parts of the Bible as optional; there are Muslims who are the same about the Koran.

In neither case do they represent all, or even the majority of the members of the religion.

 

adavid

(140 posts)
14. What if you found out that
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 04:48 PM
Sep 2013

the group that did this, did it because of our high-tech terrorism (drones) that killed his wife and kids, and that this was blowback.

 

furious

(202 posts)
20. I will still condemn it.
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 05:11 PM
Sep 2013

2 wrongs don't make a right, and these terrorists deliberately targeted innocent civilians.

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