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skip fox

(19,357 posts)
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 01:08 PM Sep 2013

Why doesn't Obama enlist Bill Clinton to explain the Affordable Health Care Act?

I'm afraid the out-come of the last Republican attack on Health care will not be as easily handled as many predict, especially its great unpopularity at the polls.

Now is the time, it seems, for Obama to bring out Clinton and turn the polls around.

Why doesn't he?

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Why doesn't Obama enlist Bill Clinton to explain the Affordable Health Care Act? (Original Post) skip fox Sep 2013 OP
Why do you think Obama needs Bill Clinton to explain it? Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #1
you just proved yourself wrong. ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2013 #6
"Yes, the bill needs PR help, but I doubt that Obama is a big enough person to ask Bill to do it." ProSense Sep 2013 #10
Because...Obama! n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #7
Wow AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #13
I understand the ACA just fine Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #14
What you just said AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #16
Do you think I care if you and your ilk take me seriously? Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #17
You mad bro? AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #19
He should welcome Bill Clinton explaining it because AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #20
He does and he has. tridim Sep 2013 #28
+1 JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #30
You cant even agree with someone AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #35
Nah the last thing he needs is Clinton to explain it tularetom Sep 2013 #2
Yeah, right AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #18
I like it. Good idea. n/t Dawgs Sep 2013 #3
It couldn't hurt. Maybe it could help. Little Star Sep 2013 #4
LOL after Obama slammed Hillary over the mandate? leftstreet Sep 2013 #5
? Skittles Sep 2013 #26
He has been. 'President Obama is deploying explainer-in-chief Bill Clinton to lift Obamacare' onehandle Sep 2013 #8
What has Clinton done recently? skip fox Sep 2013 #11
President Clinton would answer the call. onehandle Sep 2013 #12
Over lunch MSNBC said Clinton will do just that this week. tridim Sep 2013 #9
Why does nobody link to polls showing the public supports the ACA? former9thward Sep 2013 #22
Get ready for "that depends on what the meaning of "covered" is" kenny blankenship Sep 2013 #15
Ken Starr? AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #21
What's your problem? Beacool Sep 2013 #23
The ACA requires insurers to cover much more than before... tridim Sep 2013 #25
There's an old saw in the Advertising business. Demoiselle Sep 2013 #24
Just don't tell them via the media. tridim Sep 2013 #27
A little honest reporting would be helpful too. Blue Idaho Sep 2013 #29
He's going to be on Late Night with David Letterman tonight... snacker Sep 2013 #31
What is there to be gained? BKH70041 Sep 2013 #32
Clinton was excellent at the DNC ecstatic Sep 2013 #33
It sounds like a good idea to me. Clinton has high approval ratings and he has a way of Arkansas Granny Sep 2013 #34
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
1. Why do you think Obama needs Bill Clinton to explain it?
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 01:12 PM
Sep 2013

He's already explained it just fine.

The problem is that the GOP has lied about it and the media fails to correct them time and time again. Chuck Todd even said it apparently wasn't the media's job to point out lies. The media propagates the lies.

We even got some so-called liberals echoing GOP talking points against the ACA.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
6. you just proved yourself wrong.
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 01:28 PM
Sep 2013

He HASN'T explained it just fine at all. If he had, UpChuck would have been forced to handle the issue differently, and 60% of America would not be misinformed about the ACA.

Yes, the bill needs PR help, but I doubt that Obama is a big enough person to ask Bill to do it. Obama is fine on some things, but, the way he stays within that White House bubble is troubling.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
10. "Yes, the bill needs PR help, but I doubt that Obama is a big enough person to ask Bill to do it."
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 01:36 PM
Sep 2013

Seems you just exposed yourself.

The bill has been explained for three years, by numerous people with varying degrees of authority, including Krugman, by editorials in the NYT, by laypeople and professional orgnizations. There is a level of willful ignorance at play here, and some people just simply don't want to understand.

The fact is that the bill's provisions are well-received, but the polling mostly focuses on the binary "approve/disapprove."

A recent poll showed that Republicans approval of the bill jumped when it was referred to as the Affordable Care Act, not Obamacare. A this point, screw em.

The majority of Americans support the law's existence. There are some who disapprove because the bill doesn't go far enough. No amount of explaining it will change that.



 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
14. I understand the ACA just fine
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 01:59 PM
Sep 2013

It's people like you who don't pay attention and listen to GOP propaganda that are the problem.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
16. What you just said
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 02:04 PM
Sep 2013

Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and has nothing to do with what I said. I listen to GOP propaganda? Really? Do you have a shred of evidence to back this up?

You obviously have no clue what I was getting at, do you? Perhaps you should think before you react, then people might start taking what you say seriously.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
17. Do you think I care if you and your ilk take me seriously?
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 02:05 PM
Sep 2013

I haven't taken you seriously since you joined DU.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
20. He should welcome Bill Clinton explaining it because
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 02:18 PM
Sep 2013

Most people do not know what is in the law. Bill Clinton has always had a way with connecting with common people. That is why he was so successful as a president. Even while they were trying to impeach him, his approval rating was over 70%.

Obama should go full on explaining this to the masses by any and every means necessary.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
2. Nah the last thing he needs is Clinton to explain it
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 01:23 PM
Sep 2013

What he needs to do is act like he gives a shit about his own act. If Obama was half as animated in defending the ACA as he was about wanting to bomb the shit out of Syria or snooping on American citizens, he would convince everybody of its merits. Since he seems so reluctant to explain the act, his enemies have taken advantage of the information vacuum to define it themselves, and not necessarily to his benefit.
 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
18. Yeah, right
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 02:06 PM
Sep 2013

The "last thing he needs" is for people to understand it better. Sure, uhuh, if you say so. Gotcha.

skip fox

(19,357 posts)
11. What has Clinton done recently?
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 01:53 PM
Sep 2013

Now is the time. After it is in effect, then people will see its benefits and the poll sshould turn around. But the next two weeks are critical.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
9. Over lunch MSNBC said Clinton will do just that this week.
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 01:35 PM
Sep 2013

As will the President and the First Lady.

The ACA has been "sold" by this Admin in every way possible, web, television, radio, public speeches, etc. The only hurdle is the media, who apparently doesn't do "fair and balanced", they faithfully report whatever lie the Republicans are telling that day, it's just "not their problem".

Also the majority of the public already supports the ACA, no need to turn the polls around.

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
15. Get ready for "that depends on what the meaning of "covered" is"
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 01:59 PM
Sep 2013

"That depends on what the meaning of the word 'Affordable' is."

"That depends on how much you care about the meaning of what 'Care' is."

"Insured? Well, you feel insured. and isn't that the important thing, assurance and confidence?"

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
23. What's your problem?
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 02:28 PM
Sep 2013

Clinton is a master at explaining things in a way that are understandable to most people.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
25. The ACA requires insurers to cover much more than before...
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 03:18 PM
Sep 2013

Including free wellness programs and routine screenings. Shocking!!!1

The ACA makes insurance affordable for millions who can't afford insurance without it. Just awful!1!1

The important thing is that millions more will be able to get healthy for the first time in their life. Horrors!1111



I care about this stuff, why don't you?

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)
24. There's an old saw in the Advertising business.
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 02:29 PM
Sep 2013

1. Tell them.
2. Tell them what you told them.
3. Tell them again.

The more explaining...from everybody....the better.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
27. Just don't tell them via the media.
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 03:19 PM
Sep 2013

Because we now know via Chuck Todd that they won't report it. Republican lies take precedence.

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
29. A little honest reporting would be helpful too.
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 03:32 PM
Sep 2013

When the M$M (Fuck Toad et al) talk about the percent opposed to ACA - they do not differentiate between the right wing knuckle dragger that would like your grandma and all sick little kids to just die and get it over with those who are in favor of a national health service or single payer options. If you split those numbers out you have a very different view of the popularity of the ACA.

Its journalistic malpractice and its just plain lazy - but that's the news business for ya.

snacker

(3,619 posts)
31. He's going to be on Late Night with David Letterman tonight...
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 03:37 PM
Sep 2013

I'm not sure if it's a rerun or a new show though.

BKH70041

(961 posts)
32. What is there to be gained?
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 03:45 PM
Sep 2013

First and foremost, politicians are politicians. As it stands, if the ACA turns out to be good, he can claim he knew it would and that he supported it all along. If it turns out bad, he's distanced himself by not being a front person for it.

I saw the WP article, and it doesn't sound like a strong endorsement, though to others they will view it that way.

I'd say good move on his part politically.

ecstatic

(32,701 posts)
33. Clinton was excellent at the DNC
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 04:02 PM
Sep 2013

I think it's a great idea, but maybe they're waiting for the mandate to take effect?

Arkansas Granny

(31,515 posts)
34. It sounds like a good idea to me. Clinton has high approval ratings and he has a way of
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 04:31 PM
Sep 2013

explaining things that makes them easy to understand. What could it hurt?

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