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A French journalist has videotaped an antigay member of Russias Parliament making several outrageous statements, among them that gay people rape children, that reports of violence against LGBT people in Russia are fabricated, and that straight people are frequently victims of hate crimes committed by gays.
Julien Pain of TV network France 24 provided AmericaBlog with the footage of Parliament member Vitaly Milonov. Milonov is the author of the St. Petersburg gay propaganda law that became the model for the nationwide law Parliament passed this summer. Pain, in St. Petersburg filming a documentary on the citys gay community, encountered Milonov a few days ago as the politician was trying to crash Queer Fest, a St. Petersburg LGBT Pride event, and asking police to shut it down, AmericaBlog reports.
Among other things, Milonov objected to the presence of a Dutch government official at the festival. European country officials support those who rape kids, he told Pain. Those support sodomies. I think it would be nice for Dutch people to know that the representative of the Dutch government is supporting those who are against Christians. He fights Christian church.
http://www.advocate.com/politics/2013/09/24/watch-russian-pol-says-gays-rape-children-fake-hate-crimes
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)Id like to think that this idiot is something like their version of batshit Bachmann... but the fact that they actually pass laws written by this jackass would indicate that many more Russians actually think like this. Just when I thought I couldnt be any more disgusted...
William769
(55,146 posts)LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)Everyone is going to find out about the roving gay gangs that go around attacking straight couples.
William769
(55,146 posts)LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)I guess that makes him Don John.
William769
(55,146 posts)I can't take credit. It was on a episode of Will & Grace. Damn, I miss that show.
William769
(55,146 posts)The group from the central Ural region have written an open letter to President Vladamir Putin, claiming that the openly-gay Sir Elton will violate Russia's ban on 'homosexual propaganda', reports The Guardian.
"The singer intends to come out in support of local sodomites and break the current Russian law, directed at protecting children," reads the letter printed in local media - referring to the country's conservative stance on homosexuality. The law has naturally led to much criticism of the country, with many calling for a boycott on Russia hosting the 2014 Winter Olympics.
Speaking to The Guardian earlier this month, Sir Elton opened up about playing live in the country and his experiences in Russia, commenting: "As a gay man, I can't leave those people on their own without going over there and supporting them. I don't know what's going to happen, but I've got to go."
http://www.gigwise.com/news/84449/russian-parents-hold-anti-gay-protest-against-elton-john-gig
LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)What the hell do they listen to over there, Russian Orthodox monastery chants?
William769
(55,146 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Did they intend to write it that way?
Because, hate to break it to them, Sir Elton is already out.
William769
(55,146 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)not hurt GLBTQ Russians. Russia Today said so.
William769
(55,146 posts)No rhyme or reason to it.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,320 posts)Downhill again.
treestar
(82,383 posts)What is it in their culture that's causing this? After years of Soviet atheism, it's not fundy-ism. Most European countries are not like this, if anything, they are ahead on these issues. Even the US is a making great strides.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)is extremely conservative, misogynistic, and hierarchical. The Soviets never questioned the traditional family unit with a male head--they simply exploited it to fulfill the needs of the state. Tolerance of behavior outside the norm is not a cultural value there.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I thought there was also something in the freedom from Soviet totalitarianism drawing people back to the Church. But didn't realize the church came back so strongly.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Until the dislocation caused by the Red-White war, the Soviet government replaced religious with civil marriage, divorce became not merely legal for the collective population for the first time, but rather easy to obtain, and unwed mothers received received dispensation from the state. State run institutions not only allowed parents to absolve themselves of many familial responsibilities, the state actually took those responsibilities away (via the mechanisms of required state-run nurseries, preschools, schools, clubs, and youth organizations)
Only after the dislocation of the Red-White War, and the population emergency stemming from the famine, the Great Motherland War and Stalin's pogroms were family units considered required to rebuild the national social structure.
It wasn't religion by any means... the demographic crisis of the second quarter of the century demanded a return to the traditional family unit.
(see Utopia in Power by Mikhail Heller for further information)
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)to get with the 21st century. This so reminds me of 1970s attitudes in Latin America.
William769
(55,146 posts)Putin is going back to KGB tactics under the old Soviet Union. One thing he doesn't realize though, Look what happened to the Old Soviet Union.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)It does look like they're having their cultural evolution event much faster than we did though.
I'm glad to see LBGT pride spreading like the feared virus the fundies always claimed it was.
William769
(55,146 posts)Maybe 52 years ago.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)to be Obama's surrogate, by Obama and Michelle. The Russian hate also stems from religion. It's really not that far afield. Rick Warren is on tape calling us every name in the book days before Obama greeted him as 'America's Minister' at the inaugural. 2008.
52 years ago, this country and States in it had laws worse than the current Russian laws.
William769
(55,146 posts)Like there are in Russia today. Thats just the facts.
Attitudes & what people say are completely different from actual laws. What ever your your point here, you failed miserably.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Todd Akin, having flunked at US politics, changed his name and emigrated to Russia where he finally won an office.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)I am shocked by the level of hate on public display in Russia.