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William769

(55,146 posts)
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 10:46 AM Sep 2013

Russian Pol Says Gays Rape Children, Fake Hate Crimes

A French journalist has videotaped an antigay member of Russia’s Parliament making several outrageous statements, among them that gay people rape children, that reports of violence against LGBT people in Russia are fabricated, and that straight people are frequently victims of hate crimes committed by gays.

Julien Pain of TV network France 24 provided AmericaBlog with the footage of Parliament member Vitaly Milonov. Milonov is the author of the St. Petersburg “gay propaganda” law that became the model for the nationwide law Parliament passed this summer. Pain, in St. Petersburg filming a documentary on the city’s gay community, encountered Milonov a few days ago as the politician was trying to crash Queer Fest, a St. Petersburg LGBT Pride event, and asking police to shut it down, AmericaBlog reports.

Among other things, Milonov objected to the presence of a Dutch government official at the festival. “European country officials support those who rape kids,” he told Pain. “Those support sodomies. I think it would be nice for Dutch people to know that the representative of the Dutch government is supporting those who are against Christians. He fights Christian church.”

http://www.advocate.com/politics/2013/09/24/watch-russian-pol-says-gays-rape-children-fake-hate-crimes

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Russian Pol Says Gays Rape Children, Fake Hate Crimes (Original Post) William769 Sep 2013 OP
Milonov seems to be pondering faking a hate crime himself in this photo... onehandle Sep 2013 #1
... William769 Sep 2013 #3
Think these two are related? Rex Sep 2013 #28
You know... bunnies Sep 2013 #2
Agreed. William769 Sep 2013 #4
Oh no, he's letting the cat out of the bag! LuvNewcastle Sep 2013 #5
Well it's a known fact that Elton John is the head of the Gay Mafia. William769 Sep 2013 #7
The Gay Mafia. That's fucking hilarious. LuvNewcastle Sep 2013 #9
LOL! William769 Sep 2013 #10
Speaking of Elton John William769 Sep 2013 #11
Awww hell, Elton John is about as far from radical as it gets. LuvNewcastle Sep 2013 #14
I Hope this would be his opening number. William769 Sep 2013 #17
Or Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #26
"The singer intends to come out in support of local sodomites " geek tragedy Sep 2013 #19
I believe it was meant in a pejorative way. William769 Sep 2013 #20
But, that law is meant to protect children geek tragedy Sep 2013 #21
Propaganda is propaganda. William769 Sep 2013 #22
Of course, they define propaganda as "being who you were born as" nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #23
Reagan would be proud. He got the ball rolling GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #6
Any Russian experts around? treestar Sep 2013 #8
It is fundyism..The Orthodox Church never left, and Russian society msanthrope Sep 2013 #12
Thanks treestar Sep 2013 #25
It wasn't religion by any means... it was simple demographics. LanternWaste Sep 2013 #30
I think the Russians are trying to fill the Machismo void left by Latin American countries starting stevenleser Sep 2013 #13
I personally think that things are so bad in Russia & they need a scapegoat. William769 Sep 2013 #15
The worst part is that doesn't sound much different than even 2 years ago in America Hydra Sep 2013 #16
Sorry I have to disagree with that that statement. William769 Sep 2013 #18
Donnie McClurkin said gay people try to kill children, said it on 700 Club then he was picked Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #27
There were no laws on the books two years ago in the United States William769 Sep 2013 #31
Lemme guess -- Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #24
That is vile and disgusting. morningfog Sep 2013 #29
 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
2. You know...
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 11:05 AM
Sep 2013

Id like to think that this idiot is something like their version of batshit Bachmann... but the fact that they actually pass laws written by this jackass would indicate that many more Russians actually think like this. Just when I thought I couldnt be any more disgusted...

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
5. Oh no, he's letting the cat out of the bag!
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 11:10 AM
Sep 2013

Everyone is going to find out about the roving gay gangs that go around attacking straight couples.

William769

(55,146 posts)
11. Speaking of Elton John
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 11:30 AM
Sep 2013
Russian parents hold 'anti-gay' protest against Elton John gig

The group from the central Ural region have written an open letter to President Vladamir Putin, claiming that the openly-gay Sir Elton will violate Russia's ban on 'homosexual propaganda', reports The Guardian.

"The singer intends to come out in support of local sodomites and break the current Russian law, directed at protecting children," reads the letter printed in local media - referring to the country's conservative stance on homosexuality. The law has naturally led to much criticism of the country, with many calling for a boycott on Russia hosting the 2014 Winter Olympics.

Speaking to The Guardian earlier this month, Sir Elton opened up about playing live in the country and his experiences in Russia, commenting: "As a gay man, I can't leave those people on their own without going over there and supporting them. I don't know what's going to happen, but I've got to go."

http://www.gigwise.com/news/84449/russian-parents-hold-anti-gay-protest-against-elton-john-gig

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
14. Awww hell, Elton John is about as far from radical as it gets.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 11:42 AM
Sep 2013

What the hell do they listen to over there, Russian Orthodox monastery chants?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
19. "The singer intends to come out in support of local sodomites "
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 11:55 AM
Sep 2013

Did they intend to write it that way?

Because, hate to break it to them, Sir Elton is already out.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
8. Any Russian experts around?
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 11:13 AM
Sep 2013

What is it in their culture that's causing this? After years of Soviet atheism, it's not fundy-ism. Most European countries are not like this, if anything, they are ahead on these issues. Even the US is a making great strides.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
12. It is fundyism..The Orthodox Church never left, and Russian society
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 11:32 AM
Sep 2013

is extremely conservative, misogynistic, and hierarchical. The Soviets never questioned the traditional family unit with a male head--they simply exploited it to fulfill the needs of the state. Tolerance of behavior outside the norm is not a cultural value there.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
25. Thanks
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 01:45 PM
Sep 2013

I thought there was also something in the freedom from Soviet totalitarianism drawing people back to the Church. But didn't realize the church came back so strongly.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
30. It wasn't religion by any means... it was simple demographics.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 02:38 PM
Sep 2013

Until the dislocation caused by the Red-White war, the Soviet government replaced religious with civil marriage, divorce became not merely legal for the collective population for the first time, but rather easy to obtain, and unwed mothers received received dispensation from the state. State run institutions not only allowed parents to absolve themselves of many familial responsibilities, the state actually took those responsibilities away (via the mechanisms of required state-run nurseries, preschools, schools, clubs, and youth organizations)

Only after the dislocation of the Red-White War, and the population emergency stemming from the famine, the Great Motherland War and Stalin's pogroms were family units considered required to rebuild the national social structure.

It wasn't religion by any means... the demographic crisis of the second quarter of the century demanded a return to the traditional family unit.


(see Utopia in Power by Mikhail Heller for further information)

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
13. I think the Russians are trying to fill the Machismo void left by Latin American countries starting
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 11:37 AM
Sep 2013

to get with the 21st century. This so reminds me of 1970s attitudes in Latin America.

William769

(55,146 posts)
15. I personally think that things are so bad in Russia & they need a scapegoat.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 11:44 AM
Sep 2013

Putin is going back to KGB tactics under the old Soviet Union. One thing he doesn't realize though, Look what happened to the Old Soviet Union.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
16. The worst part is that doesn't sound much different than even 2 years ago in America
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 11:52 AM
Sep 2013

It does look like they're having their cultural evolution event much faster than we did though.

I'm glad to see LBGT pride spreading like the feared virus the fundies always claimed it was.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
27. Donnie McClurkin said gay people try to kill children, said it on 700 Club then he was picked
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 02:15 PM
Sep 2013

to be Obama's surrogate, by Obama and Michelle. The Russian hate also stems from religion. It's really not that far afield. Rick Warren is on tape calling us every name in the book days before Obama greeted him as 'America's Minister' at the inaugural. 2008.

52 years ago, this country and States in it had laws worse than the current Russian laws.

William769

(55,146 posts)
31. There were no laws on the books two years ago in the United States
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 03:40 PM
Sep 2013

Like there are in Russia today. Thats just the facts.

Attitudes & what people say are completely different from actual laws. What ever your your point here, you failed miserably.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
24. Lemme guess --
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 12:06 PM
Sep 2013

Todd Akin, having flunked at US politics, changed his name and emigrated to Russia where he finally won an office.

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