* Eighty percent of Americans, including 83 percent of independents and 75 percent of Republicans, s

[applegrove]

"* Eighty percent of Americans, including 83 percent of independents and 75 percent of Republicans, say threatening a government shutdown is not an acceptable way to negotiate."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/09/25/the-morning-plum-ted-cruzs-stance-on-obamacare-is-the-gops-stance-on-obamacare/

[gopiscrap]

1. I agree

[Hydra]

2. Duh!

That 20% other is about the size of their voting base...which begs he question- why are we supposed to take any of their arguments and ideas about how to do things seriously when they have so little support?

[applegrove]

3. That is a great point. You should do a thread on that.

[tk2kewl]

4. maybe that point could wake up some juvinile libertarian millenials

Nt

[MrModerate]

6. One word: gerrymandering. n/t

[libdem4life]

5. Right on. Off to the gallows with the craven lot of them. Cruz wants to lead, carry on. ol' boy.

[Uncle Joe]

7. Kicked and recommended for common sense, logic and the will of the American People.

Thanks for the thread, applegrove.

[applegrove]

8. Always a pleasure Uncle Joe

[sheshe2]

9. Thank you applegrove!

* MORE GOOD NEWS FOR OBAMACARE: The Obama administration releases a comprehensive look at premiums in 36 states where the government will run new insurance exchanges, and finds them coming in generally lower than expected. Jonathan Cohn has the must read explanation of it all, including this:

Overall, according to HHS, the premium bids are lower than government actuaries had predicted when the law first passed. That’s good news for taxpayers, because it means the subsidies will be less expensive than budget projections had suggested. It’s also good news for the Obamacare enterprise as a whole….these are real bets, from real insurers, that the insurance exchanges are going to work.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/09/25/the-morning-plum-ted-cruzs-stance-on-obamacare-is-the-gops-stance-on-obamacare/

Good news!

[Cryptoad]

12. Thank you Mr President! nt

[Turbineguy]

10. The GOP gives a shit?

who knew?

[Cryptoad]

11. yep,,,

that ole "my way or the highway" edict of the Tea Party is really working out good for them!

[Scurrilous]

13. K & R