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damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 11:04 PM Sep 2013

TV: Your Mind. Controlled.

“Our society is rapidly coming apart at the seams and people are seriously starting to lose it… Way too many Americans seem to be losing all sense of what is right and what is wrong. Way too many Americans seem to be losing all sense of what it means to treat others with dignity and respect… It is almost as if some sort of mental illness is spreading throughout our society that is expressing itself in thousands of different ways. We are seeing anger, rage, malice and brutality rise to very dangerous levels. Our population has become way too greedy, proud, selfish and hateful. America is on a very dangerous road and we need to wake up.”

*A general sense of apathy is spreading through the populace like a cancer and it begs the question: even if we wanted to “wake up,” could we?

According to last year’s Nielsen report, the average American over the age of two years old watches more than 34 hours of television per week, plus at least three more hours of taped programming. The report also noted that the amount of time we spend watching television increases as we get older.

Back in 1969, a man named Herbert Krugman conducted a series of experiments regarding the effect of television on a person’s brainwaves. What he found was pretty startling:

“Krugman monitored a person through many trials and found that in less than one minute of television viewing, the person’s brainwaves switched from Beta waves — brainwaves associated with active, logical thought — to primarily Alpha waves. When the subject stopped watching television and began reading a magazine, the brainwaves reverted to Beta waves.”

http://truthstreammedia.com/tv-your-mind-controlled/

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TV: Your Mind. Controlled. (Original Post) damnedifIknow Sep 2013 OP
TV should come in IV form mindwalker_i Sep 2013 #1
ROFL "Goodness." Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #6
An anecdote for your post. woo me with science Sep 2013 #2
Television, the Drug of the Nation johnnyreb Sep 2013 #3
LOL! And here I thought I was the only one that posted that video. Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #25
It's been many years since Newton Minow's famous "vast wasteland" comment. Ron Green Sep 2013 #4
as chomsky said tiny elvis Sep 2013 #5
I probably spent at least 30 hours a week watching TV in elementary school, Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #7
Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom Adsos Letter Sep 2013 #9
I think that's one of the reasons we watched Wild Kingdom Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #10
We always went over to my grandparents house to watch it. Adsos Letter Sep 2013 #11
Sis, is that you? Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #13
i suspect it was a pretty common experience, back in the day. Adsos Letter Sep 2013 #14
That bouncing ball made me dizzy Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #15
OMG you guys pipi_k Sep 2013 #19
"Out of the blue of the western sky comes... Adsos Letter Sep 2013 #21
Lots of western movies back in those days, too. Adsos Letter Sep 2013 #22
Johnny Quest pipi_k Sep 2013 #32
The Jonny Quest episode that freaked me out the most Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #33
That wasn't Johnny Quest. kentauros Sep 2013 #34
When I had a radio show back in the mid-90s kentauros Sep 2013 #35
I think we also watched Ted Mack's Amateur Hour Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #18
Thirty-four hours of television per week? Adsos Letter Sep 2013 #8
No clue damnedifIknow Sep 2013 #12
You must have very high standards and a finely developed mind el_bryanto Sep 2013 #20
Well I just find TV boring damnedifIknow Sep 2013 #36
TCM (Turner Classic Movies) for one. kentauros Sep 2013 #17
I do enjoy TCM. Adsos Letter Sep 2013 #27
The Documentary Channel recently turned into "Pivot" kentauros Sep 2013 #30
I did not know that about the Documentary Channel ... Adsos Letter Sep 2013 #31
Simpsons quote... Javaman Sep 2013 #16
National Anthem when TV stations signed off at night... MinM Sep 2013 #23
TV sells audiences to advertisers. KurtNYC Sep 2013 #24
so it's fine to post criticism of tv for cali Sep 2013 #26
Good point, cali Link Speed Sep 2013 #29
this is one reason I have not owned a television in more then 20 years.... mike_c Sep 2013 #28

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
2. An anecdote for your post.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 11:32 PM
Sep 2013

I have spent time recently with an elderly relative who enjoys watching game shows. I caught a few episodes of the new "Family Feud" with Steve Harvey. Here are some of the questions I heard:

1. Name something a waiter might do to a customer's food to get back at him for being rude. (Answers on the board included spit in it, pee in it, drop it on him...)

2. After a fight with her husband, name something a wife might do to his food. (Answers on the board included spit in it, put a sedative in it.

and

3. Name something a disgruntled employee might do to his boss's car. (Answers included slash the tires, key it).

When I heard the first question, I was surprised and disgusted. When I heard the second one, I did a double take and was stunned. When I heard the third one, I was flat out angry. Not just that those polled obliged with sociopathic answers, but that the Game Show Network considered these questions to be thigh-slapping entertainment for audiences on an American game show.

This culture is horribly sick. We need a change, and soon.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
4. It's been many years since Newton Minow's famous "vast wasteland" comment.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 12:06 AM
Sep 2013

I think the nature of TV turned out to be more complex than just crap.

It's actively pernicious.

tiny elvis

(979 posts)
5. as chomsky said
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 12:21 AM
Sep 2013

when your information is based solely on what is good for commerce
you are going to present a warped world view

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
7. I probably spent at least 30 hours a week watching TV in elementary school,
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 12:48 AM
Sep 2013

but it was broken down something like this:

Weekdays-- 30 minutes in the morning watching Captain Kangaroo, cartoons, or some local FYI program.
3 hours in the evening (1 hour of news, and 2 hours of programs like Gilligan's Island, Batman, Andy Griffith, etc. as a kind of background filler while doing homework)

Saturdays-- 3 or 3 1/2 hours of cartoons in the morning, probably 3 hours of nighttime programming like Get Smart and The Avengers

Sundays-- 30 minutes to an hour or so of programming in the morning (Davey and Goliath, Bullwinkle, Beany and Cecil), 1 hour of political discussion shows, maybe a couple of hours of sports, probably 3 hours of programs in the evening (news, Wild Kingdom, Disney, Lawrence Welk, Ed Sullivan, etc.).

After I entered junior high, my TV watching declined considerably, and by high school it had dwindled to around 2 hours on weekdays and maybe 3 hours on weekends.

Today, I hardly ever watch contemporary TV, and when I do, it hardly seems worth it.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
9. Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 12:59 AM
Sep 2013

"It looks like Jim could be in real trouble wrestling that..." (insert animal here, the giant python being the one that came immediately to my mind).

Loved that show and watched it every week back in the 60's.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
10. I think that's one of the reasons we watched Wild Kingdom
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:02 AM
Sep 2013

"What kind of varmint is Jim gonna wrestle this week?"

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
11. We always went over to my grandparents house to watch it.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:13 AM
Sep 2013

Every Sunday, iirc (they had the color tv)...

We were also regular watchers of Lawrence Welk, Mitch Miller (the old Sing Along With Mitch show) and the Ed Sullivan show.

I'll admit that I was a captive audience for Lawrence Welk and Mitch Miller...

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
13. Sis, is that you?
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:22 AM
Sep 2013

That sounds exactly like our Sundays back then! At the grandparents' house on Sundays, watching Lawrence Welk (captive audience), Mitch Miller ("Let's all sing like the birdies sing&quot , even the part about the grandparents having the color TV

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
15. That bouncing ball made me dizzy
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:49 AM
Sep 2013

They'd even use it on when there was a song on some of those old Harveytoons cartoons.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
19. OMG you guys
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:51 AM
Sep 2013

are bringing back so many memories from my own childhood!

Mitch Miller...Lawrence Welk...

I watched Highway Patrol and Sky King and The Life of Reilly

Our Miss Brooks and Topper

One of my favorite game shows was Video Village

And Saturday afternoons there was Tarzan and Jungle Jim (with the requisite person-accidentally-falling-into-the-quicksand scene) and cheesy dinosaur movies.

And when we went to my grandparents' house my grandfather would retire to The Parlor to watch Perry Mason.

So many happy hours with the TV, yet we still found time to get out and play till the street lights came on.



Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
22. Lots of western movies back in those days, too.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 11:32 AM
Sep 2013

And I definitely remember the cheesy dinosaur movies.

And Johnny Quest!

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
32. Johnny Quest
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:47 PM
Sep 2013

always freaked me out with the moving lips thing so I never watched it that much.


I liked Mighty Mouse, Pepe le Pew, Betty Boop...

Beany and Cecil, Rocky and Bullwinkle...






Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
33. The Jonny Quest episode that freaked me out the most
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 07:11 PM
Sep 2013

was when they dropped the paint bombs on the electric monster, and he looked like this:



The walking mummy also freaked me out

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
34. That wasn't Johnny Quest.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 07:19 PM
Sep 2013

That was Clutch Cargo and Space An-gel (I separated "angel" because that's how they pronounced it!)

Clutch Cargo with Spinner and Paddlefoot!
Yes, I remember those shows, too

How about The Mighty Hercules?





kentauros

(29,414 posts)
35. When I had a radio show back in the mid-90s
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 07:25 PM
Sep 2013

I'd always start my show with the Johnny Quest theme music. Amd if I had a show today, I'd start it with the theme music to The Venture Brothers!



Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
18. I think we also watched Ted Mack's Amateur Hour
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:32 AM
Sep 2013

at the grandparents' house. I think it was sponsored by Geritol and Sominex. It was definitely geared towards an older audience

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
8. Thirty-four hours of television per week?
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 12:51 AM
Sep 2013

Where does anyone find thirty-four hours per week of watchable programming?

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
20. You must have very high standards and a finely developed mind
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 11:01 AM
Sep 2013

So what do you think of people who do find worthwhile programming on TV?

Bryant

damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
36. Well I just find TV boring
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 07:30 PM
Sep 2013

If others feel different then so be it. I don't judge I just live and let live.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
27. I do enjoy TCM.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 12:10 PM
Sep 2013

Also Independent Lens and the Documentary Channel, which we get on dish.

Never really watched much on the BBCA (I listen to the BBC on NPR) but my kids aredefinitely Whovians.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
30. The Documentary Channel recently turned into "Pivot"
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:52 PM
Sep 2013

and I haven't seen any more documentary movies listed, unless they are airing at times other than latenight.

Here's the wikipedia description of the channel:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pivot_(TV_channel)

The launch of Pivot was announced on March 27, 2013, and is described as a "disruptive TV" service that will focus on social advocacy.[4] The channel will take over the space currently held by two Participant Media–owned channels, Halogen TV and the Documentary Channel, giving Pivot an initial subscriber base of about 40 million cable and satellite television homes. With the launch, Pivot will become the first television channel to offer broadband-only subscriptions that will allow live streaming of the linear channel and video on demand offerings without requiring a subscription to a pay television service.[3][5] It was later announced that NeuLion had been selected to design and deliver the new cable network's downloadable interactive app which will allow Pivot's content to be delivered to multiple digital devices. It will offer its entertainment programming, live and on-demand, to authenticated pay TV subscribers and broadband-only subscribers.[6]


Programming that is seen on Pivot includes original programs such as the late night talk show TakePart Live, the variety show HitRECord on TV (hosted by series co-creator Joseph Gordon-Levitt), the reality-based talk show Raising McCain (hosted by blogger Meghan McCain)[2] and the scripted series Will, a period drama about a young William Shakespeare (which will debut in early 2014). Pivot is also the U.S. television home of the Australian comedy drama series Please Like Me, a show created and written by Josh Thomas which will be co-produced by Pivot and the Australian Broadcasting Corporation from the second season onward. The show is positioned to be the face of the network. Another show called Jersey Strong, a docusoap that chronicles the lives of two families from parallel universes.[7]

Other programs seen on the channel include acquired shows such as Friday Night Lights, Little Mosque on the Prairie and Farscape, and live programs and documentaries produced in partnership with Rolling Stone and Noticias Univision.[8]

The network also airs documentaries like its predecessor the Documentary Channel.


As far as programming on BBCA, I watch Dr Who as well as Top Gear, Copper, and Ripper Street. I will have to netflix Luther and Broadchurch as both look like amazing series!

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
31. I did not know that about the Documentary Channel ...
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:40 PM
Sep 2013

Shows how much tv I don't watch, even of the stuff I do.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
16. Simpsons quote...
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:21 AM
Sep 2013

Homer Simpson: Television! Teacher, mother...

Homer Simpson: [lustily] ... secret lover. Urge to kill... fading... fading... fading - rising! Fading... fading... gone.

[family sighs]

Homer Simpson: Come, family. sit in the snow with daddy and let us all bask in TV's warm glowing warming glow.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
24. TV sells audiences to advertisers.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 11:50 AM
Sep 2013

Many TV viewers think of themselves as the customer, they even talk about boycotting TV shows. Viewers aren't the customer any more than chickens are the customer of KFC.

Audiences are the product which media companies sell to advertisers; hypnotized, immobilized, and stupefied audiences.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
26. so it's fine to post criticism of tv for
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 12:05 PM
Sep 2013

contributing to this:

Way too many Americans seem to be losing all sense of what is right and what is wrong. Way too many Americans seem to be losing all sense of what it means to treat others with dignity and respect… It is almost as if some sort of mental illness is spreading throughout our society that is expressing itself in thousands of different ways. We are seeing anger, rage, malice and brutality rise to very dangerous levels. Our population has become way too greedy, proud, selfish and hateful. America is on a very dangerous road and we need to wake up.”

but criticize games like GTA and shit rains down on you.

Interesting, particularly in the light of GTA's huge roll out.

 

Link Speed

(650 posts)
29. Good point, cali
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:27 PM
Sep 2013

I wonder how many gamers' minds have been turned into sponges by 'reality' teevee.

They sure get excited when the effect of violent games is brought up here.

Really, really excited.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
28. this is one reason I have not owned a television in more then 20 years....
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:34 PM
Sep 2013

I have better things to do with 34 hrs a week than sit passively through social and commercial indoctrination.

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