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Jesus fuck this is out of control gopiscrap Sep 2013 #1
This was 40 years ago. It's why we passed FISA Recursion Sep 2013 #7
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Sep 2013 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #3
You're welcome gopiscrap Sep 2013 #4
Frank Church warned us about the implications of using NSA technology on Americans in 1976. Octafish Sep 2013 #5
oh the irony... G_j Sep 2013 #8
K&R for more visibility. nt Mnemosyne Sep 2013 #6
Recommend jsr Sep 2013 #9

gopiscrap

(23,770 posts)
1. Jesus fuck this is out of control
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:03 AM
Sep 2013

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. This was 40 years ago. It's why we passed FISA
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:40 AM
Sep 2013

Before FISA, the executive branch could basically spy on whoever they wanted with no limits except the rules of evidence if they wanted to go after somebody judicially.

gopiscrap

(23,770 posts)
2. Welcome to DU
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:04 AM
Sep 2013

Response to gopiscrap (Reply #2)

gopiscrap

(23,770 posts)
4. You're welcome
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:06 AM
Sep 2013

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
5. Frank Church warned us about the implications of using NSA technology on Americans in 1976.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:09 AM
Sep 2013

“That capability at any time could be turned around on the American people and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn’t matter. There would be no place to hide. If this government ever became a tyranny, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back, because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology.

I don’t want to see this country ever go across the bridge. [font color="red"]I know the capability that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision, so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return.[/font color]” -- Sen. Frank Church (D-Idaho) liberal, progressive, World War II combat veteran

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Octafish/277

PS: Thanks for the heads-up, Prometheus Perez! A hearty welcome to DU!

PPS: Turnkey Tyranny, anybody? Anybody?

G_j

(40,372 posts)
8. oh the irony...
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:40 AM
Sep 2013

but I've lost my sense humor

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
6. K&R for more visibility. nt
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:38 AM
Sep 2013

jsr

(7,712 posts)
9. Recommend
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:49 AM
Sep 2013
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