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A newbie has a question ... (Original Post) Scuba Sep 2013 OP
yup...makes no sense, does it? gopiscrap Sep 2013 #1
no sense kardonb Sep 2013 #42
The newbie is learning fast. K&R. ck4829 Sep 2013 #2
Agreed!! yuiyoshida Sep 2013 #83
It's easier to... Phillyindy Sep 2013 #3
He forgot the most important thing BillStein Sep 2013 #4
You speak as a man. Women; "Except a probe up our vaginas." hue Sep 2013 #13
Naw! They want government IN our lives when it comes to my vagina... Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #63
The most hilarious diametric opposition in history jmowreader Sep 2013 #84
Nicely played, sir Fumesucker Sep 2013 #76
You are so correct.Welcome to DU! SummerSnow Sep 2013 #5
This is ridiculous and counter-productive oberliner Sep 2013 #6
Nah. It's true. Scuba Sep 2013 #7
Come on now oberliner Sep 2013 #12
Punishing the weak is Republican stock in trade. Their base loves that red meat. Scuba Sep 2013 #17
They like charter schools oberliner Sep 2013 #21
They like charter schools better than public schools (funneling public $ into private pockets) truebluegreen Sep 2013 #25
They like charter schools because the "GOVT IS THE PROBLEM" bobduca Sep 2013 #33
That too. truebluegreen Sep 2013 #37
And Ronnie should know Mr.Bill Sep 2013 #68
Do you have any Republicans in your family? oberliner Sep 2013 #55
Yes I do. truebluegreen Sep 2013 #62
Not because it might be education. Becaue someone can profit from it, regardless of Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2013 #53
It seems like a cartoonish caricature oberliner Sep 2013 #56
And they are deserving of it. Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2013 #58
And Thugs like Charley Sikes warrant46 Sep 2013 #22
Teaching that our planet is 6000 yrs old & no evolution is totally against science. hue Sep 2013 #18
Lots of Democrats believe those things too oberliner Sep 2013 #23
Please name some lunatica Sep 2013 #35
Democrats who are also believing Christians? oberliner Sep 2013 #45
Name Democrats who believe the same thing Republicans do lunatica Sep 2013 #47
I said that there are Democrats who believe the world is 6000 years old oberliner Sep 2013 #48
Yes I would disagree lunatica Sep 2013 #49
Al Sharpton? oberliner Sep 2013 #50
What does that have to do with creation being only 6000 years old? lunatica Sep 2013 #51
He says he believes the Bible is the word of God oberliner Sep 2013 #54
Sharpton is not a young earth creationist. immoderate Sep 2013 #66
No one said he is oberliner Sep 2013 #70
OK, I see what you did there. immoderate Sep 2013 #80
One of these things is not like the other tavalon Sep 2013 #74
Ummm, by "believing Christians" annabanana Sep 2013 #65
Those who believe the Bible to be the word of God oberliner Sep 2013 #89
Right. They're against PUBLIC education, ACTUAL science and, again, POOR children eating. PeaceNikki Sep 2013 #19
I'd remove the evolution part PatrynXX Sep 2013 #28
you hit part of the nail on the head green917 Sep 2013 #30
"I just find if your teaching that in schools you'd have to teach about other religions too" LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #44
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” Kermitt Gribble Sep 2013 #64
Plus one................nt Enthusiast Sep 2013 #85
(Eyebrows rising so high I have no forehead) Curmudgeoness Sep 2013 #71
As long as moderate Republicans vote for those extreme RWer's that do support all Fla Dem Sep 2013 #41
You don't think Republicans are against education and science? LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #43
I don't think all of them are oberliner Sep 2013 #46
They are against core science, like evolution and climate science. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #86
You're right... it should say "Republicans are against POOR children eating" PeaceNikki Sep 2013 #8
+1 FailureToCommunicate Sep 2013 #14
They're fine with children eating, just not with assisting them to eat. Let Ken Blackwell clarify: Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2013 #15
Silly--you empower people by starving them. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #26
Agreed. Theres plenty of it already out there. Not that the gop doesnt have their own versions.nt 7962 Sep 2013 #16
Thanks! oberliner Sep 2013 #57
Not so fast. Against eating children is the only thing they've got going for them. nt brush Sep 2013 #27
I'm not sure they don't FAVOR eating children.......! lastlib Sep 2013 #39
Well I've never heard a Republican advocate eating children. cui bono Sep 2013 #52
As a tree hugger-- randr Sep 2013 #61
And who do you think are the single biggest beneficiaries of food stamps? baldguy Sep 2013 #75
Not too far off, though NewJeffCT Sep 2013 #92
Answer: Pretty much, yeah. Hayabusa Sep 2013 #9
Yup. NealK Sep 2013 #10
Who would be for eating children? n/t eggplant Sep 2013 #11
Big Bad Wolf bobduca Sep 2013 #34
A bit over the top but basically correct.. DCBob Sep 2013 #20
They don't always win at the ballot box. lpbk2713 Sep 2013 #24
Yep. He got it right. DGeorge Sep 2013 #29
Do the math yourself.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #31
Sheeeeit. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #87
The GOP is defined by what it is against! Cryptoad Sep 2013 #32
I think this is great! Thanks for posting! tofuandbeer Sep 2013 #36
Uhm, I could be mistaken, but I don't think Republicans are against global warming. Jenoch Sep 2013 #38
Good catch nxylas Sep 2013 #40
Yeah and they aren't "against" global warming either SomethingFishy Sep 2013 #77
They say, "Global warming is a hoax, but Enthusiast Sep 2013 #88
I'm proud of you, Scuba. You caught on early. Stay with it. Educate others. Run for office. VOTE! judesedit Sep 2013 #59
Yep--and thats just the short list randr Sep 2013 #60
Yep! TxDemChem Sep 2013 #67
I think they are "for" Global Warming based on tax incentives SaveAmerica Sep 2013 #69
Yes, and "Hands off my GUN, What are you doing with your vagina?" nt Tigress DEM Sep 2013 #72
I'm not new to politics and I don't understand the answer to your question. tavalon Sep 2013 #73
K & R Scurrilous Sep 2013 #78
Yep, the republicans want you to live a wretched life, be miserable, sick, unemployed RKP5637 Sep 2013 #79
And thats how they can control the masses Iliyah Sep 2013 #82
Not only do "people still vote for them," but Obama likes having some in high-level positions. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #81
People vote republican to entertain the rich. B Calm Sep 2013 #90
I do not understand either Rain Mcloud Sep 2013 #91
 

Phillyindy

(406 posts)
3. It's easier to...
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:18 AM
Sep 2013

...list what they are for.

Funneling all money and power to the owners. Period. You will never find a Republican cause that does not/would not accomplish this. Excluding social issues like gays and abortion of course meant to draw in the ignorant unwashed masses.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
63. Naw! They want government IN our lives when it comes to my vagina...
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:32 PM
Sep 2013

Or, profiling my black ass and putting it in jail, the military industrial complex, the prison industrial complex, the drug war, reducing regulations on carbon emissions, regulating what I watch on TV, what I read on the Internets, in libraries, in school textbooks, who I vote for, where I was born, etc.

They otherwise hate government except for when it comes to what THEY define as morality.

jmowreader

(50,569 posts)
84. The most hilarious diametric opposition in history
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 04:33 AM
Sep 2013

is the right wing's belief that government should be smaller but abortion should be illegal.

We've got a good case study for an abortion ban: Ceaucescu's Romania. During the period when Decree 770 was in effect, the division of the Romanian state security service charged with enforcing the decree was the largest employer in Romania. There is no reason to doubt the US would be in the same situation if we tried that here.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
6. This is ridiculous and counter-productive
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:25 AM
Sep 2013

To say that Republicans are "against children eating" plays into the cartoonish stereotypes of Democrats played up by the RW.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
12. Come on now
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 11:27 AM
Sep 2013

Take out Republicans being against education, science, and children eating and then maybe the rest is OK.

Or change Republicans to a more specific sub-group.

Otherwise I think it's not helpful.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
17. Punishing the weak is Republican stock in trade. Their base loves that red meat.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 11:44 AM
Sep 2013

Go to the Milwaukee Urinal / Sentinel blogs and look at the cheering for children being denied food stamps.

As for science and education, it's hard to believe you've been here long enough to post 23,000 times and not learned of the Republican disdain for these topics.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
21. They like charter schools
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 11:48 AM
Sep 2013

If it said they were against public education, then I would agree with that.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
25. They like charter schools better than public schools (funneling public $ into private pockets)
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 11:59 AM
Sep 2013

but what they really like is homeschoolin', and they positively hate science, which has an inconvenient liberal bias.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
53. Not because it might be education. Becaue someone can profit from it, regardless of
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:56 PM
Sep 2013

the crappy job they do supposedly providing education.

hue

(4,949 posts)
18. Teaching that our planet is 6000 yrs old & no evolution is totally against science.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 11:46 AM
Sep 2013

RW christians are against vaccinations. Their ministers are almost always men....

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
48. I said that there are Democrats who believe the world is 6000 years old
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:10 PM
Sep 2013

Also that some are against vaccinations.

Would you disagree with that?

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
51. What does that have to do with creation being only 6000 years old?
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:48 PM
Sep 2013

Or Republicans hating on poor children to the point of taking food away from them. Or Climate Change?

But keep muddying the issue.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
66. Sharpton is not a young earth creationist.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:21 PM
Sep 2013

I mostly can't stand him, but I wouldn't libel him like that.

--imm

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
70. No one said he is
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 08:27 PM
Sep 2013

There is no libeling going on. Everything I claimed, he has actually said. Namely that he believes the Bible is the word of God.

I put a question mark after his name with respect to what he might believe about when the earth was created.

Do you have evidence that demonstrates he does not believe the events described in the Bible are not true?

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
65. Ummm, by "believing Christians"
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:18 PM
Sep 2013

Who are you talking about?... literalist fundamentalists? I believe those Christians are extremely gullible if not completely out of their minds.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
89. Those who believe the Bible to be the word of God
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 06:22 AM
Sep 2013

Is that not compatible with being a Democrat? I think that it is.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
28. I'd remove the evolution part
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 12:14 PM
Sep 2013

but everything else. Evolution is anti religion. and I don't believe in it. whether it's scientifically proven or not. thats what faith is about. whatever your religion. It's possible there is some truth behind it. I just find if your teaching that in schools you'd have to teach about other religions too

green917

(442 posts)
30. you hit part of the nail on the head
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 12:35 PM
Sep 2013

when you refer to science that is supported by reams of recorded, peer reviewed data going back for centuries as " another religion", you will lose every rational thinking person in the discussion! evolutionary science does not have to be taken on faith because we can see its effects in the world around us, as opposed to your religion (1 of many) that has no verifiable evidence that the protagonist of said religion even exists much less needing to accept all of the centuries of dogma and misogyny. put more simply, science is not religion and religion is not science and, forgive me, but I don't want religion taught in my science classes any more than you probably want evolutionary science taught in your church on Sunday!

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
44. "I just find if your teaching that in schools you'd have to teach about other religions too"
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:16 PM
Sep 2013

Um, no.

Evolution is part of science. Religion is religion.

Why does teaching science mean you also have to teach religion?

Kermitt Gribble

(1,855 posts)
64. “The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.”
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:43 PM
Sep 2013

- Neil deGrasse Tyson

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
71. (Eyebrows rising so high I have no forehead)
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 08:34 PM
Sep 2013

I am having trouble keeping my chin from hitting the floor. Either you forgot the smilie, or I am just blown away with the line "whether it's scientifically proven or not". If it is proven, how can you not believe it?

And evolution is the farthest thing from a religion as you can get.

Of course it is possible that there is truth behind it.....and almost every person I know who does not believe in evolution doesn't have a problem with super-bugs (microbes that keep changing to be drug resistant or more virulent). Well, that is evolution.

Fla Dem

(23,809 posts)
41. As long as moderate Republicans vote for those extreme RWer's that do support all
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:10 PM
Sep 2013

those positions, they can be lumped into the group. Extreme Republicans are voted into state legislatures, governorships, congress and the senate by all Republicans.

after 10 years, my 3000th post.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
46. I don't think all of them are
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:26 PM
Sep 2013

I'm not sure what it means to be "against science" but I know people who are Republicans who are pretty aok with science.

And Republicans are against public education for the most part, but not education as a general concept.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
86. They are against core science, like evolution and climate science.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 05:20 AM
Sep 2013

They. Are. Pathetic.

Evolution is the very foundation of the modern biological sciences, including medicine.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
15. They're fine with children eating, just not with assisting them to eat. Let Ken Blackwell clarify:
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 11:36 AM
Sep 2013
There’s “nothing more Christian” than the massive food stamp cuts passed last week by House Republicans, said a conservative activist.

Ken Blackwell, a senior fellow for the Family Research Council, told the Christian Post on Saturday that welfare programs such as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program bred dependency.

The former Ohio secretary of state and failed 2006 gubernatorial candidate said he favored empowering the poor and working poor to become self-sufficient, although the story does not quote any specific plans suggested by Blackwell for doing this.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/24/family-research-council-nothing-more-christian-than-food-stamp-cuts/

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
26. Silly--you empower people by starving them.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 12:11 PM
Sep 2013

"empowering the poor and working poor to become self-sufficient, although the story does not quote any specific plans suggested by Blackwell for doing this."

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
16. Agreed. Theres plenty of it already out there. Not that the gop doesnt have their own versions.nt
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 11:36 AM
Sep 2013

lastlib

(23,340 posts)
39. I'm not sure they don't FAVOR eating children.......!
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 12:49 PM
Sep 2013

virtually every evil I can think of can probably be linked to Repuglycanism..

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
52. Well I've never heard a Republican advocate eating children.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:56 PM
Sep 2013

I mean really, that's taking it too far!

randr

(12,417 posts)
61. As a tree hugger--
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:12 PM
Sep 2013

the beloved title cartoonishly bestowed upon me--- I think Republicans would be proud to seen as deniers of food to children. Someone needs to be responsible for showing children that we all work for our money. It is because Democrats fail to point out the obvious stereotypes that are so fitting to Republicans that the Republicans still hide behind their curtains and have such uncertainty to who they really are.

lpbk2713

(42,770 posts)
24. They don't always win at the ballot box.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 11:58 AM
Sep 2013


Some times the dysfunctional courts give it to them and
some times they just outright steal the election. As was
the case of the Y2K selection in Florida.



 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
31. Do the math yourself....
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 12:36 PM
Sep 2013

First time voters in the next election will have been born during Clinton's SECOND term.

They spent their childhood hearing about Dubya and how crooked Republicans are and saw the clown show that is the Tea Party and the resurgence of racism.

Some of them know full well that the ONLY reason America has fallen behind is because of idiots wanting to keep the 20th century alive.

Those who remember the 50's as a teen are dropping like flies. It won't be too long until we hear about the last surviving veteran of WWII.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
40. Good catch
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:00 PM
Sep 2013

It should probably read "admitting the existence of global warming" or something to that effect.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
77. Yeah and they aren't "against" global warming either
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:42 PM
Sep 2013

the bottom few were poorly worded...


But.. unlike some on here I think every one fits the republicans to a "T".

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
69. I think they are "for" Global Warming based on tax incentives
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 08:10 PM
Sep 2013

for purchase of gas guzzlers and other laws, rules and things they've done that increases Global Warming.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
73. I'm not new to politics and I don't understand the answer to your question.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:24 PM
Sep 2013

Low information voters is the best I can come up with, but 47% who voted for President, voted for Romney. We must live in a country of political imbeciles.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
79. Yep, the republicans want you to live a wretched life, be miserable, sick, unemployed
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 11:17 PM
Sep 2013

and uneducated, live a bunch of falsehoods and to hurry up and die as painfully as possible.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
82. And thats how they can control the masses
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 01:17 AM
Sep 2013

Keep the masses less and or/not educated with facts, instill fear, unhealthy with no means of help except religion, crumbs given to them by the 1%ers and there you have it, control.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
81. Not only do "people still vote for them," but Obama likes having some in high-level positions.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 01:16 AM
Sep 2013

This is very puzzling for those of us who voted for Obama and other Democrats because we wanted to have Democrats instead of Republicans.

What course should we take?

If Obama favors high-level Republicans, shouldn't we follow our leader and do so as well?

Or are we not supposed to notice?

 

Rain Mcloud

(812 posts)
91. I do not understand either
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 06:56 AM
Sep 2013

but then i never,ever had a silver spoon.
I tried to understand but then i deluded myself.
Now,i wonder why i ever wanted to understand that for which there can never be a rational let alone humanitarian answer.
I eventually came to the conclusion after wandering the metaphorical wasteland of moral bankruptcy and moral cowardice that the kindest solution would be to have these people(i use the term lightly for the definition does not strictly apply)locked away until the proper medicine can be developed which would cure them of their hatred for humanity.

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