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Emit

(11,213 posts)
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:41 PM Sep 2013

Head of Barilla pasta company: Gays can eat someone else’s pasta

Last edited Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:05 PM - Edit history (2)

This was posted in the LGBT group but I think it needs a broader DU audience.

No more Barilla pasta products for me!

Head of Barilla pasta company: Gays can eat someone else’s pasta

Guido Barilla, president of the family-owned Barilla pasta company, said in a radio interview on Wednesday that his company only supports “the traditional family” and that LGBT people “can go eat someone else’s pasta.” According to John Aravosis at Americablog, Barilla has since backtracked on his remarks somewhat, but many LGBT people around the world are reacting angrily to the slam by the head of the massive, global brand.

“We won’t include gays in our ads, because we like the traditional family,” Barilla told an interviewer. “If gays don’t like it, they can always eat another brand of pasta. Everyone is free to do what they want, provided it doesn’t bother anyone else.”

Barilla said today that he meant no ill will toward LGBT people with his remarks, saying in a statement, “With reference to statements made yesterday, I apologize if my words have generated controversy or misunderstanding, or if they have hurt the sensibilities of some people. In the interview I simply wanted to highlight the central role of the woman in the family.”

~snip~


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/26/head-of-barilla-pasta-company-gays-can-eat-someone-elses-pasta/


Edited to add contact info for anyone interested in letting Guido know how you feel:

Thanks, SoLeftIAmRight (loved typing that!) from post #110:

CONTACT NUMBER 800-922-7455 - Let them know how you feel.

Thanks, rrneck from post #39: Link to respond:

http://www.barillagroup.com/corporate/en/home/talk-to-barilla/azienda/form/untitled.html

Ha! They must be getting a lot of responses. That link is slow as molasses!

This might be a quicker link: http://www.barillagroup.com/corporate/en/home/talk-to-barilla.html
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Head of Barilla pasta company: Gays can eat someone else’s pasta (Original Post) Emit Sep 2013 OP
I love his explanation...he wasn't being homophobic... joeybee12 Sep 2013 #1
... Emit Sep 2013 #2
CONTACT NUMBER 800-922-7455 - Let them know how you feel. SoLeftIAmRight Sep 2013 #110
Thanks, SoLeftIAmRight! Emit Sep 2013 #134
I am not new here. SoLeftIAmRight Sep 2013 #156
Ahh, banned for speaking your mind in the past? How dare you! 7962 Sep 2013 #243
Bwa-ha-ha! So true! randome Sep 2013 #7
Right? cyberswede Sep 2013 #12
Which is why "traditional family values" are bullshit no matter how one tries to split hairs. nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #176
Exactly. I'm sure we can expect Barilla ads to feature prominent lesbians though... AleksS Sep 2013 #265
If one woman is "central" then two is doubly "central" joeybee12 Sep 2013 #267
Yep, go back to Golden Grain.... Bennyboy Sep 2013 #3
This straight person is going to eat another brand of pasta, too. Skinner Sep 2013 #4
me too tk2kewl Sep 2013 #19
That's all we buy Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #26
There are other pasta that you can buy. nt bluestate10 Sep 2013 #190
Thank you, Skinner. closeupready Sep 2013 #60
Buy this.... MADem Sep 2013 #61
Turns out the grocery store I normally shop in SheilaT Sep 2013 #67
You will be pleased, trust me. MADem Sep 2013 #81
Thanks for the advice! Wait Wut Sep 2013 #119
Click on the Dreamfields link provided and LibGranny Sep 2013 #128
COOL!!! Wait Wut Sep 2013 #131
I love dreamfields! Bryn Sep 2013 #143
Yes, it's very good -- we've tried it theHandpuppet Sep 2013 #164
This is the brand ChazII Sep 2013 #222
It will very much help his blood sugar. MADem Sep 2013 #224
Hmm. Thanks for the info. kag Sep 2013 #231
Like you, we have not tried ChazII Sep 2013 #250
Dreamfields is great pasta! Beausoir Sep 2013 #268
North Dakota, you say? So there's the "Buy American" aspect as well! MADem Sep 2013 #270
plus one Liberal_in_LA Sep 2013 #114
Ditto. Wait Wut Sep 2013 #117
+1 bunnies Sep 2013 #152
This straight person (and spouse) agree! anneboleyn Sep 2013 #189
Yep. No more Barilla for this family, either. OnionPatch Sep 2013 #230
I am in. stonecutter357 Sep 2013 #246
That looks like my good old Atlas Marcato pasta machine.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #269
Dear LBGT family and friends, lapislzi Sep 2013 #5
The premium price didn't reflect any increase in quality Warpy Sep 2013 #6
wow that will turn out to be an expensive attitude Enrique Sep 2013 #8
Not just gay people, either--you don't have to be gay to reject that kind of bigoted shit. nt MADem Sep 2013 #68
This straight girl will boycott. Control-Z Sep 2013 #175
Dreamfields makes an expensive but superb cappelini. MADem Sep 2013 #185
This heterosexual female agrees! CoffeeCat Sep 2013 #219
Yep. Our one box just went into the trash. We WILL eat other brands. AlinPA Sep 2013 #286
You just made me chuckle. Wait Wut Sep 2013 #125
"I simply wanted to highlight the central role of the woman in the family.” So wouldn't a family Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2013 #9
Gee.... cynzke Sep 2013 #70
Satan? nt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2013 #77
No more Barilla for me. pitbullgirl1965 Sep 2013 #10
I only buy Barilla occasionly, but I guess it will now be never. n/t RebelOne Sep 2013 #84
So can this old straight woman Autumn Sep 2013 #11
Or donate it to an abuse center then send the company an email. randome Sep 2013 #15
No I will not donate it. My chickens love their pasta, I will not cook it Autumn Sep 2013 #21
It's already paid for though. Throwing it away rather than giving it to the needy or your chickens cui bono Sep 2013 #32
The boxes are open. It's the principle of the matter. Autumn Sep 2013 #41
I know what you mean. Since it's carbs I won't press the point. cui bono Sep 2013 #50
That's what I was going to say, it's basically junk food. closeupready Sep 2013 #59
I buy their whole grain pastas and the veggie one. Autumn Sep 2013 #99
Understood - besides, pasta (even Barilla's) is biodegradable derby378 Sep 2013 #166
No Barilla pasta for us. HappyMe Sep 2013 #13
Well, the head line made me crack up. Puzzledtraveller Sep 2013 #14
It caught me off guard. Wait Wut Sep 2013 #127
So glad my husband JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #16
This straight woman will stop buying Barilla frazzled Sep 2013 #17
I've never bought Barilla. . . Borchkins Sep 2013 #18
"I'm a sexist"? And wtf is "hurt the sensibilities of some people"? Idiot. uppityperson Sep 2013 #20
Well, I guess it's back to Racconto for me. surrealAmerican Sep 2013 #22
OK, Guido. But, this straight guy's not going to buy your pasta, either. MineralMan Sep 2013 #23
Nor this one Salviati Sep 2013 #58
so can I Skittles Sep 2013 #24
He apologizes because he realizes he hurt his business. dmr Sep 2013 #25
Yes. You gotta love when they express what they really feel and then... Phentex Sep 2013 #38
A pretty non-apology apology too wickerwoman Sep 2013 #46
Exactly, his "apology" was shit. nt bluestate10 Sep 2013 #192
Does this guy think only LGBT are going to be offended by his bigotry? n/t cui bono Sep 2013 #27
I'm not buying their products either kcr Sep 2013 #28
Looks like this straight chick and her family... polichick Sep 2013 #29
What an idiot..uh, there are so many pasta's on the market. He stands a good chance Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #30
Arrivederci, Barilla! nt City Lights Sep 2013 #31
Or 'Vai via, stronzo!' MADem Sep 2013 #72
I've been a Barilla man for many years. AngryAmish Sep 2013 #33
Make your own. Le Taz Hot Sep 2013 #37
You are on to something there AngryAmish Sep 2013 #40
Here's the recipe: Le Taz Hot Sep 2013 #57
Do you cook, freeze, reheat? Freeze, thaw, cook? Or freeze and toss it in still frozen to cook? ieoeja Sep 2013 #80
I do it a couple of different ways. Le Taz Hot Sep 2013 #86
sprinkle them with rice flour, liberally (of course) nilram Sep 2013 #154
Thank you, thank you, thank you... DeschutesRiver Sep 2013 #262
Dreamfields. MADem Sep 2013 #89
I think you mean. sendero Sep 2013 #181
Yeah, that's them! MADem Sep 2013 #187
Ronzoni Renew Deal Sep 2013 #111
Ronzoni, San Gorgio was what this Sicilian girl ate growing up. And Trader Joe's brand ain't bad.nt msanthrope Sep 2013 #197
Dumb shits. Le Taz Hot Sep 2013 #34
Any tips for first-timers? Brigid Sep 2013 #102
See post 57 above. Le Taz Hot Sep 2013 #141
Well Guido, this straight woman in a central role of her family isn't buying your product anymore. msanthrope Sep 2013 #35
So he's bigoted AND sexist? Sheldon Cooper Sep 2013 #36
Shucks, and I like their pasta. rrneck Sep 2013 #39
Done. Iggo Sep 2013 #88
Thank you. nt rrneck Sep 2013 #98
Here's mine Aerows Sep 2013 #215
Thanks, rrneck! Emit Sep 2013 #136
Done! Thanks for the link. theHandpuppet Sep 2013 #167
I hope his bigotry proves to be very expensive. n/t UtahLib Sep 2013 #42
It will be...very very expensive...nt. Stuart G Sep 2013 #76
I named their sauce Shitilla years ago as I thought it sucked but did buy their pasta. RiffRandell Sep 2013 #43
The woman in the family? My sister-in-law and her partner upaloopa Sep 2013 #44
"We won’t include gays in our ads, because we like the traditional family" KansDem Sep 2013 #45
Screw them Autumn Colors Sep 2013 #47
I'm not gay, but I will be eating someone else's pasta too. penultimate Sep 2013 #48
SMH Mr Dixon Sep 2013 #49
I regularly purchased their pasta for years for my carbonara, but not anymore. bullwinkle428 Sep 2013 #51
No more Barrilla anything here azurnoir Sep 2013 #52
No more Barilla pasta for me! BlueToTheBone Sep 2013 #53
I agree with him. We have the right to buy another brand, and will do so. Dawson Leery Sep 2013 #54
Will do, Mr. Barilla. And I'll send what I have right back to you! closeupready Sep 2013 #55
Throw it into the trash like I did. nt bluestate10 Sep 2013 #194
Barilla is like Walmart pasta in Italy--it's crap. MADem Sep 2013 #56
do they have gluten free pasta? n/t LittleGirl Sep 2013 #257
No. There's still gluten in it. MADem Sep 2013 #273
I have been buying Trader Joe's rice pasta LittleGirl Sep 2013 #278
I would suggest that you head to an Asian grocer and check out the fare there... MADem Sep 2013 #279
Thanks for the tips. LittleGirl Sep 2013 #280
I have heard about the link with Hashimoto's. MADem Sep 2013 #281
Yup! LittleGirl Sep 2013 #282
Traditional Marriage: A man -- a woman -- and a Mistress brooklynite Sep 2013 #62
Bigots lack awareness, honesty, and integrity, and I stay away from them, and any enterprise Zorra Sep 2013 #63
I pretty much eat quinoa now instead of pasta. cui bono Sep 2013 #64
Barilla products... KansDem Sep 2013 #65
You left one out KamaAina Sep 2013 #272
LOL Lucinda Sep 2013 #291
Good!! because their pasta is garbage. Go eat Garafalo from Costco--you won't regret Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #66
You're right, that Garofalo is good. Blue_In_AK Sep 2013 #199
Barilla now off our grocery list. Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #69
Wow gollygee Sep 2013 #71
"Everyone is free to do what they want" progressoid Sep 2013 #73
Head of Barilla pasta company: Gays can eat someone else’s pasta The CCC Sep 2013 #74
Arrivederci, Guido. This straight guy will be eating someone else's pasta too. JHB Sep 2013 #75
Fresh pasta in NYC? Sounds yummy. Brigid Sep 2013 #97
I'll just take it as an occasion to go exploring... JHB Sep 2013 #242
K&R Sissyk Sep 2013 #78
Can and should, as should the rest of us. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #79
They think there aren't that many LGBT people but forget about their family and friends coldmountain Sep 2013 #82
Exactly. laundry_queen Sep 2013 #158
Here's the facebook page for Barilla US MNBrewer Sep 2013 #83
Thanks for this thread! Not only do I want to boycott them for what they said, but.... Moonwalk Sep 2013 #85
easily done. nt xchrom Sep 2013 #87
Well guess what Barilla? iwillalwayswonderwhy Sep 2013 #90
How is Ronzoni? Has their management shoved a foot in their mouth recently? krispos42 Sep 2013 #91
Nope! RosieS57 Sep 2013 #96
I am thinking intelligent open minded folk "can" eat someone elses pasta , as well etherealtruth Sep 2013 #92
That's exactly what I'm thinking! Plenty of other brands out there. Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2013 #115
Great minds think alike etherealtruth Sep 2013 #170
Mr Barilla will get what he asked for. TeamPooka Sep 2013 #93
Translation. "This is how I really feel but I will....... Bonhomme Richard Sep 2013 #94
No problem Guido and thanks for the heads up, until this very moment we didn't know louslobbs Sep 2013 #95
Oh thank GOD!! A product I can actually BOYCOTT!! That's my favorite brand. Dammit. DevonRex Sep 2013 #100
I know what you mean OriginalGeek Sep 2013 #209
To hell with that bigoted asshole. Blue Idaho Sep 2013 #101
As the mother of Italian hertiage AND a Gay Daughter, HockeyMom Sep 2013 #103
My pantry of Barilla pasta is all in the trash now HockeyMom Sep 2013 #132
That is what I did with mine. I won't buy any more. nt bluestate10 Sep 2013 #196
Gosh darn it!!! I have so many Barilla pasta products. What a moron. LoisB Sep 2013 #104
"I apologize IF..." So typical of these people. Aristus Sep 2013 #105
Thank you. I think I will. nt silvershadow Sep 2013 #106
Off to the dustbin with Barilla.... AZ Mike Sep 2013 #107
On my "no buy list". Hulk Sep 2013 #108
People should be thanking Guido Barilla Renew Deal Sep 2013 #109
Guess what, some straight people are going to eat someone else's pasta too. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #112
Well then, he can fuck right off. Tien1985 Sep 2013 #113
I buy whatevers on sale d_r Sep 2013 #116
Dang! johnp3907 Sep 2013 #118
This was my go to brand of dry pasta. FarPoint Sep 2013 #120
Comments submitted to their website: Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2013 #121
"It doesn't bother anyone else" wryter2000 Sep 2013 #122
"Everyone is free to do what they want, provided it doesn’t bother anyone else.” yesphan Sep 2013 #123
Barilla controls multiple other brands incl WASA flatbread. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #124
Edit the Wikipedia page and put some DU wisdom in there Kolesar Sep 2013 #137
My email to Barilla Sherman A1 Sep 2013 #126
Spaghetti squash is in season. Yum! GoCubsGo Sep 2013 #129
And liberals can eat someone elses‘ applegrove Sep 2013 #130
I buy Ronzoni any way... 1monster Sep 2013 #133
OK, I will eat someone else's pasta. n/t BeeBee Sep 2013 #135
After this comment, no more Barrilla for me. Paper Roses Sep 2013 #138
Ah, well, there's other kinds of pasta to buy! DissidentVoice Sep 2013 #139
Really? Aviation Pro Sep 2013 #140
As much as I've always enjoyed Barilla products, I will no longer buy them. I support no bigotry. judesedit Sep 2013 #142
Luckly I usually stick to Kroger brand because I'm cheap obama2terms Sep 2013 #144
I've never eaten their products and further more.... Playinghardball Sep 2013 #145
I think Hulu has been running an ad for their dinner mix. Starry Messenger Sep 2013 #146
I'll never buy from them again but can I send back what I have and ask for a refund? IVoteDFL Sep 2013 #147
Switching to Newman's Own here. n/t LeftinOH Sep 2013 #148
WHAT THE HELL???? I love their products. rivegauche Sep 2013 #149
His words were "al dente". They bit him in the ass. n/t JBoy Sep 2013 #150
No more Barilla for me. Vashta Nerada Sep 2013 #151
I used to buy their pasta every week. No more. windsormich19454 Sep 2013 #153
This message was self-deleted by its author uppityperson Sep 2013 #212
Just sent this matt819 Sep 2013 #155
Welp, guess it's back to Prince pasta for me. Arkana Sep 2013 #157
I really like Barilla shireen Sep 2013 #159
Dreamfields theHandpuppet Sep 2013 #168
Heres a great pic of thier newest product: bunnies Sep 2013 #160
I responded to this off their corporate site with the following points.... Swede Atlanta Sep 2013 #161
This is awesome - I've never seen DU this unified on ANYTHING before! bullwinkle428 Sep 2013 #162
Note to self: No more Barilla in this home theHandpuppet Sep 2013 #163
guess my consumption of this brand is now in the PASTa dembotoz Sep 2013 #165
I rarely buy pasta, but when I have I've never paid attention to the brand. Gemini Cat Sep 2013 #169
If gays can eat someone else's pasta, murielm99 Sep 2013 #171
Cut 'em some slack, they did come out with a new product HarveyDarkey Sep 2013 #172
Petition from GLAAD for grocery store to drop Barilla IVoteDFL Sep 2013 #173
Thanks for the link... Phentex Sep 2013 #186
Best facebook comment so far... 2theleft Sep 2013 #174
Straight people can eat someone else's pasta, too. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2013 #177
I'm not throwing mine away, but it will be DeCecco's henceforth. WinkyDink Sep 2013 #178
I called and told them this straight person won't be buying any more pasta from someone who Squinch Sep 2013 #179
... and the horse he rode in on. No more Barilla products in my home. nt stevenleser Sep 2013 #180
Costco sells it, too... Phentex Sep 2013 #182
This straight lass won't be buying any Barilla either. myrna minx Sep 2013 #183
Fuck him and his bigotry MadrasT Sep 2013 #184
I am a heterosexual and a former barilla pasta buyer. The barilla pasta on my counter bluestate10 Sep 2013 #188
So can the rest of the world Spirochete Sep 2013 #191
I will no longer be buying Barilla. RedCappedBandit Sep 2013 #193
No more Barilla for me, Blue_In_AK Sep 2013 #195
Man! The San Georgio Commercial practically writes itself... LaydeeBug Sep 2013 #198
+1 Dawson Leery Sep 2013 #202
I wouldn't eat their shitty pasta even if they pay me to do it. idwiyo Sep 2013 #200
Well that just tears it shenmue Sep 2013 #201
In a world where every merchant competes for pennies DonCoquixote Sep 2013 #203
Barilla's bottom line will let them know how we feel. JEFF9K Sep 2013 #204
Dear Barilla: Be careful what you ask for... backscatter712 Sep 2013 #205
Thanks for the heads up, and one more product I'll have no trouble avoiding bhikkhu Sep 2013 #206
If you do FaceBook, tell them how you feel. Kennah Sep 2013 #207
Guido ain't gonna be eating any Barilla pasta any time soon either. KentuckyWoman Sep 2013 #208
Okay. Good to know. LWolf Sep 2013 #210
No more Barilla for me. nt Ilsa Sep 2013 #211
I called the company and got a message of a woman reading Guido's apology. Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #213
This message was self-deleted by its author musical_soul Sep 2013 #214
What a strange homophobic meltdown. aikoaiko Sep 2013 #216
thanks Guido, you douche.. we have a barilla plant nearby that employs a lot of people dionysus Sep 2013 #217
And that's the thing. Iggo Sep 2013 #252
He'll lose a ton of business... CoffeeCat Sep 2013 #218
I'm not gay, but I will never eat their shit again, if, in fact I ever did. lonestarnot Sep 2013 #220
I think the man's going to have to do that Ad after all. donheld Sep 2013 #221
never have used Barilla and never will now, asshat nt steve2470 Sep 2013 #223
I left a response at the 2nd link eridani Sep 2013 #225
Wow, I can't believe I wrote this... nilram Sep 2013 #226
Barilla's reply nilram Oct 2013 #295
This is not a "gay" issue or a "straight" issue. It is a human issue, emsimon33 Sep 2013 #227
Alrighty sakabatou Sep 2013 #228
It's as if he doesn't know how easy it is to switch pasta brands and never look back. Iggo Sep 2013 #251
One more for the boycott list... ReRe Sep 2013 #229
F**** em. I'll never buy Barilla ever again. SmittynMo Sep 2013 #232
and I hope their friends and family do to! ebbie15644 Sep 2013 #233
Well, Guido, you just lost this customer.. mountain grammy Sep 2013 #234
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #235
The LGBTQ community (me) demands you rethink your post. Agschmid Sep 2013 #238
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #239
There is bullying behavior within every community... Agschmid Sep 2013 #240
It was a fucking radio interview. JBoy Sep 2013 #241
Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #261
"Barilla said today that he meant no ill will toward LGBT people with his remarks..." Riiiiight. yellowcanine Sep 2013 #236
Won't eat it . . fadedrose Sep 2013 #237
GMO garbage in the flour proReality Sep 2013 #247
More details? fadedrose Sep 2013 #249
The thing about fake apologists Iwillnevergiveup Sep 2013 #244
This "traditional family" proReality Sep 2013 #245
I wonder how many gays have ACTED in their ads kentauros Sep 2013 #248
The right wing headline for this story: Kablooie Sep 2013 #253
Lesbians are women. Was he highlighting them and their role in the family? appleannie1 Sep 2013 #254
Ad from a competitor supposedly released 11 hours after Guido stepped in it MNBrewer Sep 2013 #255
So can we breeders Doctor_J Sep 2013 #256
12 Best Responses To Barilla’s ‘I Would Not Do A Commercial With A Homosexual Family’ Emit Sep 2013 #258
Garofalo is quite good, and is carried at Costco MNBrewer Sep 2013 #271
Loved this! Lucinda Sep 2013 #292
Service grandpamike1 Sep 2013 #259
K&R Fumesucker Sep 2013 #260
Barilla pasta has now joined Papa John's and Chick-fil-A on the list of... SaveOurDemocracy Sep 2013 #263
Hilarious commercial RosieS57 Sep 2013 #277
" In the interview I simply wanted to highlight the central role of the woman in the family." tarheelsunc Sep 2013 #264
Why would someone say something so ugly and insulting abelenkpe Sep 2013 #266
Lives in a bubble. Iggo Sep 2013 #274
Why would someone say something so ugly and insulting? He's an a$$hole? mnhtnbb Sep 2013 #288
I talked to my corner store guy and he's not going to caryy Barilla anymore. Luminous Animal Sep 2013 #275
So can straights. dgibby Sep 2013 #276
I just sent Guido a FB message: drynberg Sep 2013 #283
Just tossed my box of their vermicelli into the garbage can. ColesCountyDem Sep 2013 #284
No more Wasa bread either! the whole of BarillaGroup is gonna feel this one! Agony Sep 2013 #285
they make wasa? nooooooooooo dionysus Sep 2013 #289
i know right? Sorry... Agony Sep 2013 #293
Guess what Barilla? Gays have mothers/fathers/brothers/sisters/aunts/uncles mnhtnbb Sep 2013 #287
Classic nopology. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #290
Why the Barilla Boycott Matters to Italian LGBT People Emit Sep 2013 #294
 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
110. CONTACT NUMBER 800-922-7455 - Let them know how you feel.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:35 PM
Sep 2013

I called and they answered. Let them know how you feel.

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
156. I am not new here.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:42 PM
Sep 2013

I was a very early member. I read the good post almost daily and have for more than a decade. This is my third account. I had my first account when there were only a few thousand members. I think there where 12,000 when I opened my second account. Hope I can keep my mouth shut when people say very stupid things over and over again. Now that the hot button issues are hidden, I think I might be around for a while.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
243. Ahh, banned for speaking your mind in the past? How dare you!
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:18 AM
Sep 2013

Odd how closed minded this forum can be when it supposed to be full of open minded people. Welcome "back". As long as you're not threatening or insulting anyone, I dont see why you should have to keep your mouth shut. This site shouldnt be like that, but sadly many times it is.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
7. Bwa-ha-ha! So true!
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:47 PM
Sep 2013

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
176. Which is why "traditional family values" are bullshit no matter how one tries to split hairs.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:23 PM
Sep 2013

Because such a stance requires intolerance of any deviation from the "norm" - be that unambiguous heterosexuality, or rigid gender roles.

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
265. Exactly. I'm sure we can expect Barilla ads to feature prominent lesbians though...
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 01:19 PM
Sep 2013

So, if this guy really "simply wanted to highlight the central role of the woman in the family,” I can assume he's moving towards an all lesbian commercial casting?

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
4. This straight person is going to eat another brand of pasta, too.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:44 PM
Sep 2013

I just bought a box of their pasta last week. I have bought it many times. No more.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
61. Buy this....
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:38 PM
Sep 2013
http://www.dreamfieldsfoods.com/

Much, much better for you and tastes like the dried pasta commonly available in southern Italy.

Costs more but worth it.
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
67. Turns out the grocery store I normally shop in
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:44 PM
Sep 2013

has it.

Too bad they don't make more shapes, but they do make some that I use. I'll remember them the next time I'm shopping for pasta.

Oh, and I'm female. I was a traditional stay-at-home mom for 25 years (now divorced and live alone) who likes to cook and liked doing it for my family. Guess what? I have plenty of gay friends, a niece who's a lesbian, and get furious at any form of homophobia. I won't be buying Barilla again. Too bad, because I do like their tri-colored rotini.

You're entitled to dislike or not get along with specific individuals for whatever reason. But not to dismiss an entire category of people based on some classification.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
81. You will be pleased, trust me.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:58 PM
Sep 2013

I lived in Italy for seven years, and I'm picky!

Mueller's makes a tricolore rotini; my experience with their stuff is that you watch your time a bit more closely if a bit of 'bite' matters to you, but I'd wager their stuff is at least as good as Barilla's if not better...

http://www.muellerspasta.com/products/tri-color-rotini-mu

Ronzoni does too, so you will not have to do without:

http://www.foodfacts.com/NutritionFacts/Pasta-Rice-Other-Grains/Ronzoni-Tri-Color-Rotini-Pasta--No---oz/5109

I'll bet you could find an organic version somewhere, as well.

Barilla will learn they are not the only game in town. Screw them!

LibGranny

(711 posts)
128. Click on the Dreamfields link provided and
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:51 PM
Sep 2013

you can enter your zip code and they'll give you the location of the nearest store!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
224. It will very much help his blood sugar.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 01:40 AM
Sep 2013

Even for people who are not diabetic, if you tend to go into a "pasta coma" after a big tasty plate of pasta, this stuff will mitigate that enormously. It's very digestible, and to my palate, it tastes like good quality pasta from around the Vesuvius area.

It's a bit more expensive, but we've been using it for a couple of years now (we have a family member with diabetes) and it's become the go-to choice for us. I recommend it based on a lot of experience with the stuff. I haven't used their lasagna noodles; but I've tried out pretty much everything else. Even their elbows cook up good if you do mac-n-cheese for the young 'uns.

kag

(4,078 posts)
231. Hmm. Thanks for the info.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 09:10 AM
Sep 2013

I don't usually buy Barilla, but my family does eat a LOT of pasta. I'm going to look for this brand next time I shop. Always on the lookout for good pasta .

ChazII

(6,202 posts)
250. Like you, we have not tried
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:43 AM
Sep 2013

the lasagna noodles but have used their other projects. I also recommend it to anyone for it low glycimic (sp) level. We have been using it for several years as well.

 

Beausoir

(7,540 posts)
268. Dreamfields is great pasta!
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 01:29 PM
Sep 2013

It can really be a godsend for diabetics and it tastes just like "regular" pasta.

Rumor has it they are going to start making potato products too. Makes sense since they started in North Dakota.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
270. North Dakota, you say? So there's the "Buy American" aspect as well!
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 01:58 PM
Sep 2013

I didn't even think of that, but it's a grand point!

I will say I'm picky, and lived for many years in Italy, and I don't suffer "bad" pasta. Dreamfields is amazingly good--it reminds me of a local pasta I used to buy that was made from wheat grown near Mount Vesuvius.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
269. That looks like my good old Atlas Marcato pasta machine....
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 01:45 PM
Sep 2013

If you guys are going to do this, make sure you have something to hang your pasta from.


Warpy

(111,169 posts)
6. The premium price didn't reflect any increase in quality
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:46 PM
Sep 2013

so even if I could eat wheat now, Guido lost me a long time ago.

The generic stuff was always just fine.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
8. wow that will turn out to be an expensive attitude
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:47 PM
Sep 2013

gay people will eat someone else's pasta. He has no clue how many people that is.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
68. Not just gay people, either--you don't have to be gay to reject that kind of bigoted shit. nt
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:44 PM
Sep 2013

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
175. This straight girl will boycott.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:17 PM
Sep 2013

I use Barilla Angel Hair because it is one of the few brands that doesn't get mushy. I will now happily eat mushy Angel Hair.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
185. Dreamfields makes an expensive but superb cappelini.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:59 PM
Sep 2013

Depending on where you live or if you hit a sale, it can run from a buck eighty to two fifty (two seventy five in Highway Robbery shops). The added advantage is that there is a lower glycemic index associated with the product--great for your diabetic family members, or anyone who doesn't care for the post-pasta coma.

Try it, I think you will be pleased.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
219. This heterosexual female agrees!
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 12:41 AM
Sep 2013

Barilla pasta will not be anywhere near my stove or colander! I'm married, was a stay-at-home mom for 13 years and I'm outraged because this is a civil-rights issue.

I'm sick and tired of these bigots spouting off. And he thinks that he can correct it by saying that he didn't mean to offend anyone, but he's just for traditional marriage.

OK buddy. I'm for traditional marriage too. I'm in one now, thank you very much. But that doesn't mean that you have the right to be offended by other people's marriages. You have absolutely NO RIGHT to be offended by who another person loves--any more than you have the right to be offended by what color someone's skin, hair or eyes are.

The nerve of these people. Someday, they'll be embarrassed and ashamed of themselves. Until they see the light, we can make sure they don't sell as much pasta!

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
125. You just made me chuckle.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:50 PM
Sep 2013

An old (gay) friend of mine was quite the cook, but ALL he could cook was pasta! He'd have frequent dinner parties and we'd all ask the same thing, "Let me guess, we're having pasta."

He did try to make a roast once. We told him to stick to pasta.

Crap. Now I'm sad. Lost him about 5 years ago. He never bought store bought, though. Made his own.

Damnit.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,497 posts)
9. "I simply wanted to highlight the central role of the woman in the family.” So wouldn't a family
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:47 PM
Sep 2013

with 2 women be even wholesome-er according to his idiotic attempt at logic?

pitbullgirl1965

(564 posts)
10. No more Barilla for me.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:48 PM
Sep 2013

My favorite pasta brand but no more. I will willing pay more for DeCecco now.
I am planning to call them up and let them know why I'm not buying anymore.
Also, since I'm not a "traditional family", being a single woman with no kids, I don't count.

Autumn

(44,984 posts)
11. So can this old straight woman
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:50 PM
Sep 2013

Fuck their pasta. Their products in my cabinet just went into the trash.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
15. Or donate it to an abuse center then send the company an email.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:52 PM
Sep 2013

Telling them what you really think of a woman's 'traditional' place in the family.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

Autumn

(44,984 posts)
21. No I will not donate it. My chickens love their pasta, I will not cook it
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:57 PM
Sep 2013

and feed it to them. Yes I do plan on contacting them.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
32. It's already paid for though. Throwing it away rather than giving it to the needy or your chickens
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:09 PM
Sep 2013

doesn't affect the company. If you give it to your chickens no one will see the label either.

Autumn

(44,984 posts)
41. The boxes are open. It's the principle of the matter.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:18 PM
Sep 2013

I think that as a woman of the family, my central role is to take a stand against bigotry. My neighbors, a wonderful Lesbian couple who call me Mom gave me my Silkies as a gift. My girls all deserve better.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
50. I know what you mean. Since it's carbs I won't press the point.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:28 PM
Sep 2013

If it were something nutritious, I might still ask you to reconsider.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
59. That's what I was going to say, it's basically junk food.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:37 PM
Sep 2013

Pasta is - unless it's made from whole wheat or spinach, etc.

Autumn

(44,984 posts)
99. I buy their whole grain pastas and the veggie one.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:25 PM
Sep 2013

Tomorrow I will go shopping and find another brand.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
166. Understood - besides, pasta (even Barilla's) is biodegradable
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:00 PM
Sep 2013

If it wasn't, I have a feeling our tummies would be in a heap of trouble right now.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
14. Well, the head line made me crack up.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:51 PM
Sep 2013

But I have no issue not buying Barilla products. Consider it done.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
127. It caught me off guard.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:51 PM
Sep 2013

I seriously thought it was going to be about sharing dinner at a restaurant or sumthin'.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
17. This straight woman will stop buying Barilla
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:54 PM
Sep 2013

I've got plenty of other choices of Italian-made pastas out there.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
23. OK, Guido. But, this straight guy's not going to buy your pasta, either.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:01 PM
Sep 2013

I have many other brands from which to choose, so you lose.

dmr

(28,344 posts)
25. He apologizes because he realizes he hurt his business.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:04 PM
Sep 2013

Though we've given up most carbs, we do like a plate of pasta now and then.

It will not be Barilla.

Shame on him.

Phentex

(16,330 posts)
38. Yes. You gotta love when they express what they really feel and then...
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:16 PM
Sep 2013

somebody in the company rakes them over for damaging the bottom line.

What an idiot!

wickerwoman

(5,662 posts)
46. A pretty non-apology apology too
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:23 PM
Sep 2013

The old standards about "I'm sorry you misunderstood me" and "I'm sorry you're oversensitive and your feelings got hurt".

Sadly I've never really bought Barilla because it's identical to generic pasta, but I'm happy to continue not buying his product.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
28. I'm not buying their products either
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:08 PM
Sep 2013

I'd switched spaghetti because their whole wheat pasta is gross. But they have other products, so I'll be sure to avoid them.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
30. What an idiot..uh, there are so many pasta's on the market. He stands a good chance
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:08 PM
Sep 2013

of hurting his business. I for one, will let him know I'll never buy his brand again.

He should have realized how easy it is for anyone who supports equality to pick
another brand of pasta from the shelf.

A dope as well as a bigot.


K&R

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
33. I've been a Barilla man for many years.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:09 PM
Sep 2013

What are the alternatives? Creamette sucks. Locally there is pasta fresh I guess but I don't want to drive over there every week. It is good, tho...

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
57. Here's the recipe:
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:36 PM
Sep 2013
Egg Pasta

5 large eggs
6 Tbsp COLD water
3-1/2 cups all-purpose flour (wheat flour works just as well)
1/2 tsp salt

(This is actually easier if you have a stand mixer like a Kitchenaid but if not, hand-kneading works just fine.)

1. Place eggs, water, flour and salt in mixing bowl
2. If using a mixer, attach flat beater, turn to speed 2 and mix 30 seconds. If no mixer, just mix by hand until well blended.
3. Mixer: Exchange flat beater with dough hook, turn to speed 2 and knead 2 minutes. By hand: knead about 10 minutes.
(Extra step when using mixer: Remove dough from bowl and knead by hand another two minutes.)
4. Cover with moistened towel and let dough rest for 15 minutes.
5. Divide dough into 4 pieces. Process through pasta roller. Use setting 3-4 for egg noodles, 4-5 for lasagna, fettuccini, spaghetti and ravioli, 6-7 for tortellini, thin fettuccini or linguini fini and 8 for any type of angel hair pasta.
6. Finally send through applicable pasta cutter (fettuccini, linguini, spaghetti, etc.)
7. From here you can cook all of it at one time in boiling water. This only cooks for maybe a minute or two as you're not reconstituting it from dry. If you don't want to cook it up all at once, you can place it into individual "piles" and freeze them in zip locks.

Yes, it takes some time but, like anything else, but this recipe makes a LOT so you can just freeze the extra so you can use it for quick meals when you're in a hurry.
 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
80. Do you cook, freeze, reheat? Freeze, thaw, cook? Or freeze and toss it in still frozen to cook?
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:54 PM
Sep 2013

I make egg noodles from scratch. But as we all know, it is time consuming, so I keep some store brought stuff around and cheat half the time.

I've thought about the freezing, but wasn't sure the procedure. I did try freezing it once, without first cooking it, and it pretty much turned back into a blob as everything stuck together. I suppose I could have rekneaded and recut it. I guess that is a 4th option I hadn't considered.


I got online one Monday after a weekend off and saw there was a mini-emergency in my family over the weekend. We were having our first family get together after my mom died, and nobody knew how she made her noodles. Everyone assumed my sister would have known, but she was never all that interested in cooking. So I rode to the rescue.

Of course, I didn't learn it from my mom either as she refused to teach a son. She did teach my now ex-wife who ended up teaching me (mostly after the divorce).

I definitely got my Liberalism from my Dad.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
86. I do it a couple of different ways.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:03 PM
Sep 2013

The first way is that I cook the pasta up first, then prepare portions complete with meatballs and sauce -- sorta like a TV dinner, then freeze. When I go to use it I just nuke it.

But if you just want to freeze the pasta itself, I make little singe-serving "nests" with the uncooked pasta, then place those in small zip locks. When I'm ready to use them, I remove the pasta nest from the zip lock and put it in boiling water. Never really had the gooey problem you describe. Maybe the secret is in boiling small amounts.

nilram

(2,886 posts)
154. sprinkle them with rice flour, liberally (of course)
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:37 PM
Sep 2013

It keeps them from sticking together.

You can also lay them on a clean sheet and dry them and they'll keep for a few weeks.

DeschutesRiver

(2,354 posts)
262. Thank you, thank you, thank you...
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 12:13 PM
Sep 2013

My dh makes the pasta without our kitchen aide mixer, but i wanted to try it with a mixer so now i will today!

And to hell with Mr. Traditional Family only Barillo dude. I realize I can't control what these miscreants think, but it was completely unnecessary for him to say this out loud. Going out of one's way to be hurtful is sick. Hope their sales freaking tank and stay down.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
89. Dreamfields.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:04 PM
Sep 2013

DeCecco (much better... if you insist on imported pasta).

http://www.dececcousa.com/


Barilla is not good pasta--it's all marketing. I ate in Italian homes for many years (and watched, and learned, and sometimes 'hepped'--like the Hamburger Helper kids) and I never saw Barilla on the menu. Not once! And I did see dried pastas on most nights, and Barilla was available in the markets.

It's just not the best stuff over there.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
187. Yeah, that's them!
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 07:04 PM
Sep 2013

We never got that crap, so I tend to get them mixed up!



That said, when I was "hepping" I was usually the one who went out to the garden to get 'sapore' (onion, a carrot, some celery, some oregano) and I was trusted with a knife to do some chopping. I also went down to the cellar to get wine (from massive vats)--which I sipped as a quality control measure-- and gave encouragement too!

I can cook pretty much any of the summer "famiglia" recipes that are popular in southern Italy as a consequence, though--I kept my eye (and those onions) peeled!

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
197. Ronzoni, San Gorgio was what this Sicilian girl ate growing up. And Trader Joe's brand ain't bad.nt
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 07:31 PM
Sep 2013

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
34. Dumb shits.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:13 PM
Sep 2013

There are a LOT of competitors out there that aren't homophobic jerks. I prefer making my own pasta anyway. Screw these assbites.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
35. Well Guido, this straight woman in a central role of her family isn't buying your product anymore.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:14 PM
Sep 2013

And that's too bad--because you make my kid's favorite shape--Fiori.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
36. So he's bigoted AND sexist?
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:14 PM
Sep 2013

Way to go, Guido! This straight woman just bought her last box of your pasta. There are dozens of other brands on the market, and they all taste just about the same to me, so not only are you bigoted and sexist, you're also really STUPID! Arrevaderci, asshole.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
39. Shucks, and I like their pasta.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:16 PM
Sep 2013

My message to Barilla:

I have enjoyed your excellent pasta for years. Your fine product and a bit of pesto along with a salad have been my standard evening meal for a long time. Unfortunately, in light of the recent remarks made by Guido Barilla regarding who is and who is not welcome to consume your product, I will have to choose another brand.

Link to respond:

http://www.barillagroup.com/corporate/en/home/talk-to-barilla/azienda/form/untitled.html

Iggo

(47,535 posts)
88. Done.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:04 PM
Sep 2013

"I don't buy from homophobic bigots.

In the future, please remember: 'I apologize IF..." is not an apology. It's an insult.

Enjoy your shrinking bottom line, geniuses."

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
215. Here's mine
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 11:08 PM
Sep 2013

"I have exclusively bought Barilla pasta in the past. In the future, due to your CEO's sexism and bigotry against gay people, I will exclusively choose to NOT buy it or anything else you produce.

"I apologize if" isn't an apology, and adding in a heaping helping of sexism in your non-apology is not only insensitive, it is stupid. I've bought the last Barilla product I ever will, and your CEO is toxic to your brand."

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
167. Done! Thanks for the link.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:06 PM
Sep 2013

Barilla will soon find out that being an asshole bigot is not good for business.

RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
43. I named their sauce Shitilla years ago as I thought it sucked but did buy their pasta.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:21 PM
Sep 2013

Not anymore. My husband is working from home today and he helps with the grocery shopping so I told him about this and he agreed saying another company banned....and honestly what constitutes a traditional family these days?

This asshole needs to be time-warped into Pleasantville.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
44. The woman in the family? My sister-in-law and her partner
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:22 PM
Sep 2013

who just got engaged after 26 years together are raising her partner's grandchild. They both are women in the family.

 

Autumn Colors

(2,379 posts)
47. Screw them
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:23 PM
Sep 2013

Well, there are no LGBT people in this family, but there will be no more Barilla products in this house (and we had bought their pasta and sauce in the past when it was on sale).

bullwinkle428

(20,628 posts)
51. I regularly purchased their pasta for years for my carbonara, but not anymore.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:30 PM
Sep 2013

I hope they eventually realize their stupidity.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
56. Barilla is like Walmart pasta in Italy--it's crap.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:36 PM
Sep 2013

Coma inducing shit.

DiCecco is better if you are married to imported pasta.

The best pasta going, in terms of the glycemic index, is a product called DREAMFIELDS. http://www.dreamfieldsfoods.com/

It is expensive as hell, cooks up like you're in Naples, and is better for diabetics. Their selection is limited (you're not going to find some of the more unusual shapes), but what they have--spaghetti, linguini, cappelini, penne, rotini and a few others--is damned good.

Screw Barilla...they're all ads, and nothing to write home about in terms of either taste OR quality.

The fact that they are bigoted shits is just one MORE reason to avoid them.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
273. No. There's still gluten in it.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 02:17 PM
Sep 2013

What this pasta does is lower that "coma" that some tend to get as a consequence of a starchy meal.

If you're a celiac or gluten sensitive, probably the best (closest) substitute is a rapidly cooked rice noodle. I think a lot of those other ones, like the spelt and so forth, don't hold up very well. I'd prepare the sauce in a wok (talk about cross culture! Hey, Marco Polo did it, why not?), do the quick dip of the rice noodles in boiling water, and then finish them off quickly in the sauce--with a thinner sauce working better than a thick one.

LittleGirl

(8,280 posts)
278. I have been buying Trader Joe's rice pasta
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 02:58 PM
Sep 2013

and it's pretty good. The other night, I used a brand I think I got at Fry's and it was horrible. Back to the Trader Joe's stuff which was 1.99 anyway. We've had to drop gluten in this house because of me but Hubby misses it sometimes. Thanks for the reply.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
279. I would suggest that you head to an Asian grocer and check out the fare there...
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 03:17 PM
Sep 2013

In bigger supermarkets you can find some brands in the "foreign food" aisle--Thai Kitchen, Annie Chun's, etc--they make a broad, flat noodle that if you don't overcook it will work for linguine recipes beautifully.



http://www.drvita.com/p-7539-Annie-Chun's-Gluten-Free-Pad-Thai-Rice-Noodles-Original--8-oz.aspx?catargetid=1920411439&cadevice={device}&gclid=CNHWveqi7LkCFQue4AodzUIApg

Read labels carefully though because the Japanese, for example, also make a wheat noodle--but they do also make some superb rice noodles that I think are better than the "substitute" brands that are sold to celiacs. I'd say it's a trial and error thing. I've been dealing with some of this on occasion because some of my family--the come-and-go bunch, not the ordinarily resident crowd, thank heaven--have decided that they have "wheat belly" and are doing the diet modification thing (some will slip if they see something they really like, though, so it's not like they're full-bore very sensitive celiacs).

As I said, the trick, I think, is down to "finishing" the cooking of the noodle IN the sauce--Italians do this as well, but I rarely see an American preparing pasta this way. Tongs or one of those food claws is the perfect way to get the clumps of pasta into the sauce, swish it round till it's cooked in, and boom--on the plate with a bit more on top and off ya go.

Italian sauce is generally thinner, too (one trick I've seen Italians living in USA use as a shortcut is using vegetable juice -- like V8, but supermart brands will work just fine -- to 'lean out' their sauces with good 'sapore' -- much better than just watering them down, though they do use the water that the pasta is cooked in, too --something that Americans just throw away). I can't abide a thick sauce anymore, so I think they may have a point!!

LittleGirl

(8,280 posts)
280. Thanks for the tips.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 03:55 PM
Sep 2013

I am not a celiac but react to gluten and dairy and have been dairy free (mostly) for 30 yrs. I have hashimoto's which is a thyroid issue and every bit of research states to go gluten free. I have since April and wow, I lost 10 stubborn pounds that I've been trying to lose for 5 yrs. I want to lose 10 more too! No more wheat belly!

I don't know if we have any asian grocers here in Tucson but I know fry's has a foreign food aisle. Reading labels is important because of the cross contamination that occurs in plants that use wheat products.

My grandmother (and grandfather from Italy) used to make noodles and I would eat that stuff up. Oh man, I miss those meals. Grandma made the best meatless sauce ever. I've always put my noodles in the sauce too.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
281. I have heard about the link with Hashimoto's.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 04:02 PM
Sep 2013

Good for you that you're doing well!

Tucson is a big enough place, I'll bet you'll find a grocer! Look at the google-they list a pile of 'em!!! https://www.google.com/#q=tucson+az+asian+grocery+stores

I'll bet one of those will have what you need....maybe you could do a little online digging ahead of your trek! Try out a few different brands, and when you find one you love, stock up!

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
63. Bigots lack awareness, honesty, and integrity, and I stay away from them, and any enterprise
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:40 PM
Sep 2013

they engage in.

Why would I deal with someone who demonstrates a fundamental lack of morality, honesty, and integrity? It's a no-brainer.

I will not knowingly purchase, eat, or drink, any item, food, or beverage produced or prepared by bigots of any kind.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
64. I pretty much eat quinoa now instead of pasta.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:41 PM
Sep 2013

Pasta is basically empty calories, where as quinoa is full of protein. One of my staples at home is quinoa with veggies, black olives, tomatoes a feta cheese with a pesto sauce on it. Yum!

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
66. Good!! because their pasta is garbage. Go eat Garafalo from Costco--you won't regret
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:43 PM
Sep 2013

the change!! I love spaghetti, linguini, etc. and having eaten a lot of pasta in Italy while I was there, I can say this pasta is the closest to the fresh high quality you get there.

Screw Barilla!!

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
199. You're right, that Garofalo is good.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 07:32 PM
Sep 2013

I just recently had some. I wish you could buy it in smaller quantities, though.

progressoid

(49,951 posts)
73. "Everyone is free to do what they want"
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:48 PM
Sep 2013

Actually Guido, some people aren't free to do what they want. As a straight person, I get a lot more options than a gay person.

But we all are free to choose to eat somebody else's pasta.

The CCC

(463 posts)
74. Head of Barilla pasta company: Gays can eat someone else’s pasta
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:49 PM
Sep 2013

I like their pasta, but that certainly was stupid thing to say. Why any business would deliberately lower their consumer base is beyond me. There is an old saying that needs to be learned: "Sometimes it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool. Than it is to speak and remove all doubt.".

JHB

(37,157 posts)
75. Arrivederci, Guido. This straight guy will be eating someone else's pasta too.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:50 PM
Sep 2013

I'm in NYC, so plenty of fresh pasta around here. And for dry, there's plenty of other choices.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
97. Fresh pasta in NYC? Sounds yummy.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:20 PM
Sep 2013

I visited there only once, decades ago. But if I ever get back there, I gotta try Lombardi's. Saw it on the History Channel. Coal-fired pizza ovens, old-world recipes, fresh ingredients -- you really can't get that here.

JHB

(37,157 posts)
242. I'll just take it as an occasion to go exploring...
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:12 AM
Sep 2013

Where is the best stuff to be had, how do the smaller-sized brands compare, etc.

I don't actually have pasta that often, so I figure by the time I'm done Barilla will have had plenty of time to come around... or it will just be an occasion for another round of exploring.

Sissyk

(12,665 posts)
78. K&R
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:51 PM
Sep 2013

Well, I can also eat another brand of pasta.

"...if they have hurt the sensibilities of some people."

Some people? Surely he doesn't feel that is an apology.

 

coldmountain

(802 posts)
82. They think there aren't that many LGBT people but forget about their family and friends
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:58 PM
Sep 2013

I'll cut back on my Barilla purchases and tell others.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
158. Exactly.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:44 PM
Sep 2013

I've never bought Barilla and I certainly never will now. I'll let my LGBT daughter know to tell her friends.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
85. Thanks for this thread! Not only do I want to boycott them for what they said, but....
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:03 PM
Sep 2013

I've learned so much about pasta

As for me, I sometimes bought their pasta, but honestly, I never tasted or noticed that they were any better or worse than any other options, generic store brand included. So boycotting them is easy for me. What a stupid thing to say. With all those pastas out there, doesn't this guy even *think* about the bottom line? The customer is king and you don't alienate customers.

If you can't do that, don't give interviews.

RosieS57

(41 posts)
96. Nope!
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:16 PM
Sep 2013

And you can believe they won't go reactionary any time soon. It is also very good for boxed pasta.

Regards from Rosie

louslobbs

(3,229 posts)
95. No problem Guido and thanks for the heads up, until this very moment we didn't know
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:13 PM
Sep 2013

about the bigotry and homophobia that your company espouses......just crossed another brand off our shopping list and will encourage others to do the same. You see, we don't like giving our money to companies that are run by people who despise us simply for who we were born to be. We'll just put Barilla on the Koch suckers list......thanks again for outing yourself for what you are and helping us to be better informed consumers. Hugs and kisses.
Lou

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
100. Oh thank GOD!! A product I can actually BOYCOTT!! That's my favorite brand. Dammit.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:27 PM
Sep 2013

So now I can't buy it but FANTASTIC because I can STOP buying something from a bigot. Until now, I hadn't had the opportunity. We don't eat fast food so couldn't boycott that chick filet asshole.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
209. I know what you mean
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:16 PM
Sep 2013

so often I see these dumb shits say something I don't want to support but it's from a company/product that I already don't use so it's no great sacrifice or even a big deal if I don't use their service or product/

But I like Barilla pasta. Thanks, Guido Barilla and fuck your noodles. Never in my house again.

Blue Idaho

(5,038 posts)
101. To hell with that bigoted asshole.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:27 PM
Sep 2013

You don't have to be gay to fight this kind of corporate bullying. I hope chokes on that pasta cuz no one in my house is ever buying it again.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
103. As the mother of Italian hertiage AND a Gay Daughter,
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:29 PM
Sep 2013

thank you very much for your bigoted statements. I will not buy your pasta from now on. Hello? Be prepared for families, friends, and supporters of gays, to NOT buy your products. Oh, get a clue. It will not JUST be gays not buying for products.

I will also pass this on to my relatives and friends, btw.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
132. My pantry of Barilla pasta is all in the trash now
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:55 PM
Sep 2013

Spaghetti, rigatoni, rotelle, and ziti. I will buy a PASTA MACHINE before I ever buy Barilla again.

Edit. My Italian Nana made all her own pasta. If she can, Barilla, so can I.

Aristus

(66,294 posts)
105. "I apologize IF..." So typical of these people.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:30 PM
Sep 2013

Go stuff your pasta, fuckhead. I'm never eating it again. And I'm straight!

Did you think it would just be gay people you pissed off?

Hope you lose millions, and then die alone and forgotten...

AZ Mike

(468 posts)
107. Off to the dustbin with Barilla....
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:30 PM
Sep 2013

....just like Hobby Lobby and Chik-fil-A.

This non-gay won't give my money to a company like this.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
108. On my "no buy list".
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:31 PM
Sep 2013

Easy way to deal with racists, sexists, teabaggers....simply quite supporting their products. I'm DONE with ANY establishment that cuts hours to avoid their responsibity with the Affordable Care Act. We need to unite and boycott the cheap bastards. We also need to expose these sick sons of bitches. No more Barilla products in my house....never.

Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
109. People should be thanking Guido Barilla
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:34 PM
Sep 2013

He puts his hatred out there for everyone to see. Most people want the money.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
112. Guess what, some straight people are going to eat someone else's pasta too.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:37 PM
Sep 2013

I used to buy their shit. Not anymore. Brand identity is now toxic.

Tien1985

(920 posts)
113. Well then, he can fuck right off.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:38 PM
Sep 2013

I've bought Barilla often because it's the brand I can easily find whole grain varieties in.

Speaking as a gay man with a family, I really wouldn't have given two shits if they never showed a gay family in a commercial, but with comments like that he can keep his pasta and we'll find a different brand.

FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
120. This was my go to brand of dry pasta.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:46 PM
Sep 2013

After this obnoxious statement ...I will never use it again. I cook pasta 3 times a week on the average. I do make fresh pasta as well. Looks like I will be making a lot more fresh pasta now.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
121. Comments submitted to their website:
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:47 PM
Sep 2013

We used to buy your products quite regularly. No more.

Mr. Barilla's sexist, homophobic remarks were totally unacceptable. Any group of people who consider themselves a family are a family. It is not Mr. Barilla's place to judge.

Arrivederci, Barilla products.

Submitted in the name of "Mr. and Mrs. MyHusband'sFirstName", just to fuck with them.

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
122. "It doesn't bother anyone else"
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:48 PM
Sep 2013

It bothers me a whole hell of a lot that people continue to have that kind of attitude in this day and age.

I usually don't buy their pasta because the store brand is cheaper and just as good. I for sure won't buy any now.

Enough of this crap.

yesphan

(1,587 posts)
123. "Everyone is free to do what they want, provided it doesn’t bother anyone else.”
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:48 PM
Sep 2013

"Everyone is free to do what they want, provided it doesn’t bother anyone else.”
Well my not so good friend, you're free to say what you want, but your comments "bother" me.
I won't be eating your pasta henceforth.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,965 posts)
124. Barilla controls multiple other brands incl WASA flatbread.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:49 PM
Sep 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barilla_Group

It controls Barilla (multinational pasta maker), Mulino Bianco, Pavesi, Voiello, Alixir and Academia Barilla (Italy), Wasabröd (Sweden), Misko (Greece), Filiz (Turkey), Yemina and Vesta (Mexico) trademarks.

It produces several kinds of pasta and it is the world's leading pasta maker with 40-45% of the Italian market and 25% of the US market.[1] It produces pasta in over 120 shapes and sizes. Barilla brand pasta is sold in numerous restaurants worldwide, such as those belonging to the Pastamania chain.[2] It is also the leading seller of bakery products in Italy. Through its acquisition of the Swedish company Wasa, it is the world's leading producer of flatbread (a Scandinavian staple), selling 60,000 tons annually.[3]

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
126. My email to Barilla
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:51 PM
Sep 2013

Gentlemen:
I am rather disturbed by the recent comments of your President. While Mr. Guido Barilla is certainly entitled to his opinion, I likewise am entitled to mine in the choice of products that enter my home. You may rest assured that Barilla products will not be among those doing so in the future.
Most Sincerely,

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
129. Spaghetti squash is in season. Yum!
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:52 PM
Sep 2013

Much better for you.

Thanks for the heads-up. They also make sauces, BTW. Won't be buying Barilla products any more.

applegrove

(118,501 posts)
130. And liberals can eat someone elses‘
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:54 PM
Sep 2013

pasta, and the extended families can eat someone elses‘ pasta and urban grocery stores can stock someone elses‘ pasta and on and on.

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)
139. Ah, well, there's other kinds of pasta to buy!
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:05 PM
Sep 2013

Guido Barilla fails on an essential point of economics: money spent is money spent regardless of the orientation/race/religion/whatever of the person spending it.

He has now potentially alienated a large set of the populace - LGBT people, their families, friends and supporters - and he could find that it may well make a significant difference to his bottom line once word gets around.

A smart businessperson would know that alienating ANYONE who may spend money on your product is not a good idea.

Aviation Pro

(12,129 posts)
140. Really?
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:07 PM
Sep 2013

Bet you a dollar that that demographic knows how to make their own homemade version and would as soon as eat boxed cardboard as they would eat rat poison.

Go fuck yourself and your non-apology, you fucking walking wad of phlegm.

judesedit

(4,437 posts)
142. As much as I've always enjoyed Barilla products, I will no longer buy them. I support no bigotry.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:13 PM
Sep 2013

They can take someone else's hard earned money.

obama2terms

(563 posts)
144. Luckly I usually stick to Kroger brand because I'm cheap
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:16 PM
Sep 2013

But I did have one box I bought on sale of the penne noodles, and down the garbage they have gone!I'm spending my hard earned money elsewhere.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
146. I think Hulu has been running an ad for their dinner mix.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:22 PM
Sep 2013

I'll figure out how to contact their ad dept. too.

IVoteDFL

(417 posts)
147. I'll never buy from them again but can I send back what I have and ask for a refund?
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:22 PM
Sep 2013

Is that allowed ever? If not I'll donate them to the food shelf. I've bought their noodles for years and this feels like such a slap in the face. In fact I have 5-6 boxes that I bought on sale for under $1 I don't want them anymore and it bothers me that I've already spent so much money on this company. I struggle to figure out where I fall on the "spectrum", but they wont have any of my business ever again.

rivegauche

(601 posts)
149. WHAT THE HELL???? I love their products.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:31 PM
Sep 2013

Damn him!! I've bought Barilla pasta and sauce exclusively for years and years. DAMN IT. I refuse to support homophobes so I guess those days are over. Why do some people have to be such bigoted a-holes.

 
153. I used to buy their pasta every week. No more.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:37 PM
Sep 2013

They won't get another dime from this straight man. Prejudiced jerks.

Response to windsormich19454 (Reply #153)

matt819

(10,749 posts)
155. Just sent this
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:39 PM
Sep 2013

I just read of your president's idiotic comments about gay people.

I have been a long-time buyer of Barilla products, pasta and sauces. I couldn't quantify the amounts, but I eat a lot of pastas. There are choices in the market, and I have now decided to choose something other than Barilla. It's a shame, really, because I like the product and considered your marketing efforts in the US impressive. All of this undone by your president's offensive, bigoted remarks.


Comment: This moron might think he's just dismissing the "gay market." I'm not gay, and millions of others like me support gay rights, gay marriage, etc., etc., and he's written off (bitten off) far more than he expected.

shireen

(8,333 posts)
159. I really like Barilla
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:47 PM
Sep 2013

But if it's the official pasta of homophobes, i'm not touching it.

Any other recommendations?

Edited to add: never mind, i saw the recommendations for other brands. Thanks!

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
161. I responded to this off their corporate site with the following points....
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:48 PM
Sep 2013

(1) A company spokesman's personal views, when expressed publicly affect not only the spokesman but also any other owners, company leadership and management, customers, distributors, consumers and employees. Even in the context of a privately owned company consideration has to be given to the public expression of personal views and the impact they may have on all the company's stakeholders

(2) The LGBT community is broadly represented among restauranteurs, chefs, restaurant staff, food critics, etc. These individuals will not respond favorably to his comments. Their response may not be helpful to the company's overall interests of being a profitable enterprise

(3) His statement that he cannot support or he even opposes adoption by gay parents because the adopted child has no say is ludicrous. I pointed out that children adopted into the homes of child abusers, pedophiles, alcoholics, fat Italians, etc. have no choice. The question is whether or not a child deserves a loving, supportive home, regardless of the personal characteristics of the parent(s).

(4) I have trashed 2 boxes of Barilla pasta and will boycott. I will not interfere with their business by attaching stickers, etc. to the Barilla shelves at my grocery store but I plan to write a letter both to the store managers of my two local usual grocers, Kroger and Publix as well as to their executive offices

I don't expect a response but I will not be purchasing any more products until, when and if, there is any kind of formal apology AND some form of penance such as sponsoring a deserving LGBT event or project

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
163. Note to self: No more Barilla in this home
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:54 PM
Sep 2013

And I regularly bought that brand. Well they can go FUCK OFF now because they just lost a good customer.

dembotoz

(16,785 posts)
165. guess my consumption of this brand is now in the PASTa
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:58 PM
Sep 2013

sorry
sometimes the puns just have to come out
and no i will no longer buy their products

Gemini Cat

(2,820 posts)
169. I rarely buy pasta, but when I have I've never paid attention to the brand.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:15 PM
Sep 2013

They all taste alike to me. However, from now on I'll pay attention. Thanks for posting this!

Squinch

(50,918 posts)
179. I called and told them this straight person won't be buying any more pasta from someone who
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:37 PM
Sep 2013

insults gay people.

I threw in something about their troglodyte views of women's role in the family, too.

Had to leave a message because "all the operators are busy."

It was fun.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
188. I am a heterosexual and a former barilla pasta buyer. The barilla pasta on my counter
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 07:10 PM
Sep 2013

went into the trash today. No barilla pasta will be used in my home again until the chairman is out and has no influence in that company, even if he is part of ownership.

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
193. I will no longer be buying Barilla.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 07:23 PM
Sep 2013

Neither will my Italian mother.

Nor my Italian grandmother.


And we all know how much fucking pasta italian grandmothers go through.

My response on their website:


“We won’t include gays in our ads, because we like the traditional family,” Barilla told an interviewer. “If gays don’t like it, they can always eat another brand of pasta. Everyone is free to do what they want, provided it doesn’t bother anyone else.”

Well, you're absolutely right. I am free to do what I want. I refuse to support these bigoted, hateful statements. My family will no longer be purchasing Barilla products.

"..provided it doesn't bother anyone else." Wow. That's fucking ironic.
 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
198. Man! The San Georgio Commercial practically writes itself...
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 07:31 PM
Sep 2013

Big ole Italian Grandmother Serving up a huge plate of pasta to a HUEEUUUUUUUUUUUGE extended family including gays, different ethnicities, everyone laughing and happy and free flowing wine, everyone kissing Grandma on the cheek, hugging Grandpop, arriving with flowers, etc...

"San Georgio. Because everyone at the table deserves unconditional love. From our family, to yours"

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
201. Well that just tears it
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 07:47 PM
Sep 2013

I'm getting something else, then. Might as well find a good brand at the health store. It'll taste better and I won't be helping a jerk.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
203. In a world where every merchant competes for pennies
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 07:50 PM
Sep 2013

Why, oh why would you risk isolating any customer?

bhikkhu

(10,713 posts)
206. Thanks for the heads up, and one more product I'll have no trouble avoiding
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 08:24 PM
Sep 2013

The thing these guys don't realize sometimes is that its a permanent avoidance, and I'll probably tell ten people, who will probably tell ten people, and so forth.

Apologies and so forth may be forthcoming from the company, but who has time to keep track? There's plenty of other untainted pasta in the stores. They'd have to do something pretty impressively positive to earn this customer back.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
208. Guido ain't gonna be eating any Barilla pasta any time soon either.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 08:44 PM
Sep 2013

That foot he jammed in his mouth will be in the way.

Idiot.......

Eventually we'll breed these people out of the gene pool but until then about all we can do is shake our head in disbelief and take our business elsewhere.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
210. Okay. Good to know.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:25 PM
Sep 2013

I'm not gay, and as far as I know, I've never eaten any Barilla pasta. I'll be sure to pass the message on, though, and make sure nobody I know eats it, either.

Response to Emit (Original post)

Iggo

(47,535 posts)
252. And that's the thing.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:50 AM
Sep 2013

When the bottom line goes south, it's the little guys who suffer.

He just fucked those people huge.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
218. He'll lose a ton of business...
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 12:30 AM
Sep 2013

...because you just can't make statements like these without profound consequences. Too many people are enlightened today and we aren't putting up with bullshit bigotry like this from billionaires.

Barilla just gave people a reason NOT to buy their pasta. You can bet Barilla is clamoring for market share. They spend millions on expensive televisions ads and I see their coupons in the Sunday newspapers. Their marketing people work night and day trying to grab more market share.

Well now they've gone and done it. They've just offended at least 30 percent of the general population (I'm taking into account that 30 percent are bigots/Republicans and 40 percent will be unaware of the bigoted comments).

This could really affect their marketshare.

I'm a middle-aged, married, heterosexual mom from the suburbs, but I support equality and my gay and lesbian brothers and sisters. Barilla can suck it. I won't be buying their pasta anytime soon.

They're obviously trying to walk back their statements. I'm sure their PR department is working overtime to repair damage. These elitist scumbags think they can spout off their hatred, and then say "so sorry" when they realize their bottom line is affected. Thanks for letting us know what you really are, Barilla Pasta.

donheld

(21,311 posts)
221. I think the man's going to have to do that Ad after all.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 01:22 AM
Sep 2013

If he wants to save his business he'll have to do it to make up for his stupid statement.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
225. I left a response at the 2nd link
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 03:33 AM
Sep 2013

The 800 number diverts you to a "sincere" message from the CEO, at least Friday 12:30 PDT.

nilram

(2,886 posts)
226. Wow, I can't believe I wrote this...
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 04:05 AM
Sep 2013

Ok, I think I write good sometimes... This is what I sent to their web site, fully attributed with my name, email address, and even snail-mail address...


I can only agree with Mr. Guido Barilla in his statement "Barilla in its advertising has always chosen to represent the family because this is the symbol of hospitality and affection for everyone." Yes, I agree, FAMILY is the symbol of hospitality and affection for everyone. However, FAMILY, for me, is much broader than a mother- or woman-centered association of individuals with shared DNA. For me, FAMILY consists of individuals chosen from LOVE. Truly, LOVE makes a FAMILY.

I hope that Mr. Guido Barilla can AFFIRM that LOVE makes a FAMILY. Until such time, I will choose OTHER products that are NOT manufactured by BARILLA.

nilram

(2,886 posts)
295. Barilla's reply
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 01:49 PM
Oct 2013

At Barilla, we consider it our mission to treat our consumers and partners as our neighbors – with love and respect – and to deliver the very best products possible. We take this responsibility seriously and consider it a core part of who we are as a family-owned company.

We are working hard to learn from this experience, and appreciate you taking the time to share your comments and valuable feedback.

Sincerely,

Barilla

Case # 165147

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
227. This is not a "gay" issue or a "straight" issue. It is a human issue,
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 04:08 AM
Sep 2013

it is an issue of sensitivity and dignity. How dare the head of Barilla pasta company show such meaness and disregard for other human beings!!!!!

I am so glad that you posted information as to where and how we can register our disgust!

Iggo

(47,535 posts)
251. It's as if he doesn't know how easy it is to switch pasta brands and never look back.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:47 AM
Sep 2013

It's fucking pasta!

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
229. One more for the boycott list...
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 04:32 AM
Sep 2013

... "no ill will", of course. I'll never understand "businesses" who are supposed to care only about their bottom line, yet publicly voice discrimination to one group or another.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
232. F**** em. I'll never buy Barilla ever again.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 09:32 AM
Sep 2013

And I'm straight. People like this need to be hit in their pocket books for publicizing their ignorant, racist remarks.

When will people learn? If he would have kept his mouth shut, he wouldn't be losing millions this will cost him.

mountain grammy

(26,598 posts)
234. Well, Guido, you just lost this customer..
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 09:51 AM
Sep 2013

I don't care what these whacky CEO's believe, that's their choice. It's when they use their position to promote their homophobic views of the world that I object. Can't they just count their riches and STFU!? They make a product, people buy it, all kinds of people. Must they also rule the world with their hateful agenda.

One of my favorite brands no longer welcome in my home. I have several LBGT friends and sometimes they come for dinner.

Response to Emit (Original post)

Response to Agschmid (Reply #238)

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
240. There is bullying behavior within every community...
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:04 AM
Sep 2013

Why does my community rub you the wrong way?

Can you link to where we demanded that commercials represent us? In fact isn't it the straight community (think Ellen and JCPenney) that demanded commercials NOT be about gay people?

By the way how is the library today?

JBoy

(8,021 posts)
241. It was a fucking radio interview.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:05 AM
Sep 2013

If you'd read the OP, you would have seen that in, like, the first line.

Why the fuck would you make up some strawman about "bullying by the gay community"? Sounds like you're inventing a way to excuse his comment.

Response to JBoy (Reply #241)

yellowcanine

(35,694 posts)
236. "Barilla said today that he meant no ill will toward LGBT people with his remarks..." Riiiiight.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 09:53 AM
Sep 2013

Go (have sexual intercourse) with yourself, Guido. And I mean no ill will toward bigoted pasta company presidents with that statement.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
237. Won't eat it . .
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 09:55 AM
Sep 2013

but in all fairness, I didn't like Barilla before this..

And noodles in general is another topic - why are they all lower in quality than they used to be - the flour or what? I used to LOVE noodles but now prefer rice.

Go ahead, Barilla, lose more business..

proReality

(1,628 posts)
247. GMO garbage in the flour
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:35 AM
Sep 2013

Try couscous, you'll like it better than rice. Buy imported, from a country that doesn't allow GMOs.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
249. More details?
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:41 AM
Sep 2013

Is there a brand name, how's it sold and what is it? Looked it up in the dictionary and it's a wheat...does it taste something like the wheat we used to have in our breads, rolls, noodles, and what-not?

How and where do you get yours?

Thanks

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
244. The thing about fake apologists
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:22 AM
Sep 2013

is they think no one else sees through them.

Another straight woman boycotting Guido.

proReality

(1,628 posts)
245. This "traditional family"
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:31 AM
Sep 2013

with it's gay cousins and one gay grandchild will be boycotting their brand.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
248. I wonder how many gays have ACTED in their ads
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:38 AM
Sep 2013

without them knowing about it...

And what would that knowledge do to Guido's head?

Kablooie

(18,612 posts)
253. The right wing headline for this story:
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:50 AM
Sep 2013

" Barilla Pasta defies media: speaks for children's rights."

Talk about twisting the news.
(Though I've seen our side push similar distortions too so whatcha gonna do?)

Emit

(11,213 posts)
258. 12 Best Responses To Barilla’s ‘I Would Not Do A Commercial With A Homosexual Family’
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 11:28 AM
Sep 2013
After the chairman of Barilla pasta — a $5.25 billion international corporation — said he would never show a gay family in his advertising — and if gay people don’t like it the can go eat someone else’s pasta, the world went to work.

Many other pasta companies released marketing to show support for the LGBT community (and grab some business!) and the spoofers went to work.

We scoured the internets to find the best responses — here they are.

~snip~



~snip~



~snip~


Cont'd: http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/12-best-responses-to-barillas-i-would-not-do-a-commercial-with-a-homosexual-family/news/2013/09/27/75805

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
271. Garofalo is quite good, and is carried at Costco
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 02:00 PM
Sep 2013

My Costco only has spaghetti, sadly, as I prefer other shapes.

SaveOurDemocracy

(4,400 posts)
263. Barilla pasta has now joined Papa John's and Chick-fil-A on the list of...
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 12:24 PM
Sep 2013

...'Do Not Purchase' for my 'traditional' family.

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
264. " In the interview I simply wanted to highlight the central role of the woman in the family."
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 12:39 PM
Sep 2013

So he at least supports lesbian relationships, right?

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
266. Why would someone say something so ugly and insulting
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 01:20 PM
Sep 2013

and risk alienating so many customers? Did this guy build his family business? Does he not understand it's not wise to alienate customers?

I have bought barilla pasta in the past, but never again. Hopefully he will learn an important lesson and sales will diminish.

dgibby

(9,474 posts)
276. So can straights.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 02:28 PM
Sep 2013

I know I won't be buying his products. BTW, the company has a FB page if anyone's interested.

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
283. I just sent Guido a FB message:
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 05:06 PM
Sep 2013

"You have lost a loyal customer due to your bigoted remarks, you blew it and so did your corporation. FIN."

mnhtnbb

(31,374 posts)
287. Guess what Barilla? Gays have mothers/fathers/brothers/sisters/aunts/uncles
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 07:37 PM
Sep 2013

who won't feel the need to buy your pasta.

Emit

(11,213 posts)
294. Why the Barilla Boycott Matters to Italian LGBT People
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 11:19 PM
Sep 2013
You might think that this is just another Chick-fil-A case in which LGBT activism becomes a simplistic decision about being for or against a corporation, as J. Bryan Lowder argued here yesterday. But there is more to this story: Since the controversy started in Italy and involves an Italian company, it’s really about the state of LGBT life in my home country. (...)

~snip~

To understand this response, you need to understand the larger state of gay rights in the country; this campaign is not only about the comments themselves. Regardless of what statistics say about the state of homophobia in Italy, there is a general feeling of exasperation among LGBT people there. Just a few days ago, the Parliament decided to respond to a rise in homophobic violence in the last years with an anti-homophobia law, but LGBT activists called it “useless” since it protects anti-gay speech within political, cultural and religious groups. The debate accompanying the law has been characterized by homophobic remarks from members of various political parties who continually spoke of a “right not to like gays” in terms of freedom of speech. So, when Guido Barilla shared his bigoted opinions, his comments became a casus belli to talk about how far the normalization of public homophobia can go.

But the real power of this boycotting campaign is that it has spread over the Italian borders due to the smart use of social media to attract wider European and international attention. While Guido Barilla might have naively thought he was merely in line with “the spirit of the times” in homophobic Italy, his comments sound even more misplaced in Barilla’s global market where many countries have laws that protect gay families. (...)

Now, if you are concerned that your boycott of Barilla in the U.S. or elsewhere won’t have any effect, be assured that Italian politicians are already paying attention. During a political discussion in the Italian Parliament on the "Barilla case" yesterday, an MP from the Lega Party decided to provoke two openly gay MPs with a fennel bulb (finocchio is the Italian slang for “faggot”) and to try to physically assault one of them. I know this scene might sound surreal, but it is indicative of the state of affairs in Italy. In such a charged context, even a simple public boycott becomes a very political gesture.

In the end, this Barilla campaign is not really about the potentially minor impact of boycotting—it’s about the possibility of protesting itself. And it’s about how an invisible minority of LGBT people is finally finding a way to speak for itself to a national and international audience. In a country where there are very few public intellectuals speaking for the LGBT community (and many scared just to come out), this feels grass-roots, this feels fresh. Even if it fades quickly, at least it gave us a chance to talk about the terrible situation of the gay people in Italy—and for that, the campaign deserves your respect.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2013/09/27/barilla_pasta_boycott_in_italy_italian_lgbt_life_and_homophobia.html
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