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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf you want Hillary to fade away, post a viable other.
It has to be somebody.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)dkf
(37,305 posts)dkf
(37,305 posts)He has an excellent record that I can rely on and which reveal where his heart and mind are.
Draft Sen. Ron Wyden for President.
woo me with science
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once people know them and their policies. Look how quickly the relative unknown named Barack Obama rose to "viability" when he pretended to the nation that he was going to stand for the 99 percent.
The One Percent is already afraid of Elizabeth Warren. Give Warren or someone like her wall-to-wall nationwide publicity of their policies versus Hillary Clinton's, and Clinton will be left in the dust.
Count on it.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)I love Wyden and am proud to have him representing me. I'd vote for him for President in a heartbeat.
My concern, though, is that he (and Sen. Warren) would be more effective in the Senate than as president.
markpkessinger
(8,395 posts). . . I don't get a sense that he has the kind of personal charisma -- and let's face it, in a race for the presidency, like it or not, charisma is a big factor -- to win a national race, particularly if the GOP contender is someone like, say, Chris Christie (who, for whatever reason, does seem to charm certain folks).
dkf
(37,305 posts)Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)I like him
shraby
(21,946 posts)and Elizabeth Warren in any combination.
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)2014.
How about that?
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)I took a long nap on Wednesday, and when I woke up, judging from all the media hullaballoo, I thought I'd gone into time machine and woke up back in 2007, or else I slept all the way up to late 2015!
Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)but my guts telling me Elizabeth Warren and my head Hillary Clinton.
Will have to wait and see.
Truth is I know Hillary Clinton's record, so far Elizabeth Warren has impressed
me with her fight, vigour and never back down attitude.
Love it that our party has two very capable individuals.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Elizabeth Warren
I still care about 2014 more right now though...
But yeah.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)If we fail then, we're screwed.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I'm donating to VA races.
I want that place to be even more blue than before.
dkf
(37,305 posts)frazzled
(18,402 posts)That's how it works. You have to let the process play out. We don't get to decide who's "viable" or not in advance. The Democratic primary voters will decide, from what probably will be a large field, the candidate they want (whether viable or not; though if a candidate wins decisively, then they are by definition viable, I guess).
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)Does anyone truly think the Democratic Party will have a problem in 2016 with the likes of Rubio or Cruz? Perry? Palin or Romney again?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]
markpkessinger
(8,395 posts). . . or even Jeb Bush, both of whom could be significant contenders.
randome
(34,845 posts)I think Obama has reset the bar for Presidential candidates. Smart and dynamic are in. Neither of those two wannabes project the same kind of confidence.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]
markpkessinger
(8,395 posts)Christie's blow-hard persona seems to have a certain unfortunate appeal for a lot of folks.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)Myrina
(12,296 posts)Someone in another thread said 3 years out is 'too soon to expect' any (potential) candidate to 'have a position' on anything ... well, then isn't it too soon to have candidates?
Let us see what the next year brings economically and socially and THEN see who steps to the front of the pack and what ideas they have, thanks.
brooklynite
(94,534 posts)...you can wait until 2016 and then complain that "they" (fill in evil organization of your choice) didn't let your candidate run. The reality is that candidates have been running (or positioning themselves in case they do) since last September. Complain all you want, but it's the reality of our political system. If you want someone who ISN'T Clinton, Biden, Schweitzer, O'Malley or Klobuchar (hint: Warren isn't running), you're going to need to convince them now to start getting organized.
Kingofalldems
(38,454 posts)Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #17)
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Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)why not?
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Should I go on?
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)Having failed to repudiate Obama on chained CPI, Biden has demonstrated himself to be a fraud.
As for Hillary, I might as well vote GOP, so no thanks.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)CK_John
(10,005 posts)spin
(17,493 posts)Th1onein
(8,514 posts)ieoeja
(9,748 posts)Amy Klobuchar - US Senator from Minnesota, strong Iowa support, pro-Labor (those still exist?!?), has that midwestern appeal that crosses regions
Bill Richardson - former New Mexico Governor, Secretary of Energy and US Ambassador to the UN, early supporter of Obama, former Bill Clinton, also has cross-regional appeal
Joe Biden - Vice President of the United States, former US Senator
Elizabeth Warren - speaks for itself
Howard Dean - speaks for itself
Beau Biden - Delaware Attorney General, US Army National Guard Major
Andrew Cuomo - New York Governor, former Secretary of HUD
Martin O'Malley - Maryland Governor, early Obama supporter
Deval Patrick - Massachusetts Governor
Kirsten Gillibrand - New York US Senator
Corey Booker - soon to be New Jersey US Senator, has strong Third Way support (e.g. Republicans hedging their bets)
Antonio Villaraigosa - Los Angeles Mayor, former DNC head
Not sure how viable those last three are. But the first nine already have some national support. Democrats have a really deep bench right now.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)Because you should have know that argument would inevitably be knocked down.
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)I think Warren is viable if we allow her to be.
dogknob
(2,431 posts)Dems who work that angle are not with us.
How many asps are we talking, exactly.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Any natural born citizen, 35 years or older, having lived in the US for 14 years (that answer is both viable, and encompasses quite a few "somebodies" .
Not that I want her to fade away, I do however, enjoy replying to the banal with the banal...