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If you want Hillary to fade away, post a viable other. (Original Post) CK_John Sep 2013 OP
Elizabeth Warrren Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2013 #1
Hillary will win, but I would much prefer Warren. n/t Orsino Sep 2013 #10
Hillary will win but I love Elizabeth Warren! redstatebluegirl Sep 2013 #36
Ron Wyden. dkf Sep 2013 #2
Who?? CK_John Sep 2013 #3
The only man I trust to roll back big brother and for bonus points he voted against Iraq. dkf Sep 2013 #6
Candidates become viable very rapidly woo me with science Sep 2013 #25
^^^^^^^ n/t truedelphi Sep 2013 #29
This! Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #16
I like Ron Wyden, but . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #40
No one else qualifies for me. I wish other prospects did. dkf Sep 2013 #42
Brian Schweitzer Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2013 #4
+1 Recursion Sep 2013 #20
Senator Whitehouse shraby Sep 2013 #5
OK. WilliamPitt Sep 2013 #7
I know, I know. truedelphi Sep 2013 #31
As of right now I'm on the fence Hutzpa Sep 2013 #8
Martin O'Malley HappyMe Sep 2013 #9
Ditto. +1 Xyzse Sep 2013 #30
Yup. 2014 is very important. HappyMe Sep 2013 #33
Pretty much... Xyzse Sep 2013 #34
Why O'Malley? dkf Sep 2013 #43
Whoever wants to will run; whoever wins the primary will be the candidate frazzled Sep 2013 #11
Governor John Kitzhaber of Oregon. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #12
Who wants her to fade away? randome Sep 2013 #13
You forgot Christie . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #24
Better than the others but I truly doubt they could stand a chance in today's climate. randome Sep 2013 #28
Well, I hope you're right . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #37
Jerry Brown, Elizabeth Warren, Alan Grayson, Barbara Boxer... Taverner Sep 2013 #14
It's 3 years out ... why do we have to pick NOW? Myrina Sep 2013 #15
You don't have to pick at all... brooklynite Sep 2013 #21
I pretty much like all Democrats, don't understand the haters here. Kingofalldems Sep 2013 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science Sep 2013 #46
Bill Clinton. Can't he run for a nonconsecutive third term? Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #18
Schweizer, Tester, O'Malley, Warren, Booker, Patrick... Recursion Sep 2013 #19
Warren. Biden is off my list... Demo_Chris Sep 2013 #22
ABC: Gore, Dean, Warren, O'Malley. AtomicKitten Sep 2013 #23
Chelsea Clinton, assuming she is old enough in 2015. CK_John Sep 2013 #26
Howard Dean. (n/t) spin Sep 2013 #27
Howard Dean. Wyden. Kucinich. Udall. Th1onein Sep 2013 #32
J. Biden-Cuomo-B. Biden-O'Malley-Patrick-Gillibrand-Booker-Warren-Villaraigosa-Dean-Klobuchar ieoeja Sep 2013 #35
I hope you weren’t thinking there would be few choices? ieoeja Sep 2013 #38
What's your definition of viable? Vashta Nerada Sep 2013 #39
Yeah, "it's me or a basket of asps" is how Feinstein holds us hostage here in CA... dogknob Sep 2013 #41
lol. bunnies Sep 2013 #47
Any natural born citizen, 35 years or older, having lived in the US for 14 years. LanternWaste Sep 2013 #44
Define 'somebody' GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #45
 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
6. The only man I trust to roll back big brother and for bonus points he voted against Iraq.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:38 PM
Sep 2013

He has an excellent record that I can rely on and which reveal where his heart and mind are.

Draft Sen. Ron Wyden for President.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
25. Candidates become viable very rapidly
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:50 PM
Sep 2013

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once people know them and their policies. Look how quickly the relative unknown named Barack Obama rose to "viability" when he pretended to the nation that he was going to stand for the 99 percent.

The One Percent is already afraid of Elizabeth Warren. Give Warren or someone like her wall-to-wall nationwide publicity of their policies versus Hillary Clinton's, and Clinton will be left in the dust.

Count on it.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
16. This!
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:14 PM
Sep 2013

I love Wyden and am proud to have him representing me. I'd vote for him for President in a heartbeat.

My concern, though, is that he (and Sen. Warren) would be more effective in the Senate than as president.

markpkessinger

(8,395 posts)
40. I like Ron Wyden, but . . .
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:28 PM
Sep 2013

. . . I don't get a sense that he has the kind of personal charisma -- and let's face it, in a race for the presidency, like it or not, charisma is a big factor -- to win a national race, particularly if the GOP contender is someone like, say, Chris Christie (who, for whatever reason, does seem to charm certain folks).

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
31. I know, I know.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:02 PM
Sep 2013

I took a long nap on Wednesday, and when I woke up, judging from all the media hullaballoo, I thought I'd gone into time machine and woke up back in 2007, or else I slept all the way up to late 2015!

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
8. As of right now I'm on the fence
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:39 PM
Sep 2013

but my guts telling me Elizabeth Warren and my head Hillary Clinton.

Will have to wait and see.

Truth is I know Hillary Clinton's record, so far Elizabeth Warren has impressed
me with her fight, vigour and never back down attitude.

Love it that our party has two very capable individuals.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
11. Whoever wants to will run; whoever wins the primary will be the candidate
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:04 PM
Sep 2013

That's how it works. You have to let the process play out. We don't get to decide who's "viable" or not in advance. The Democratic primary voters will decide, from what probably will be a large field, the candidate they want (whether viable or not; though if a candidate wins decisively, then they are by definition viable, I guess).

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
13. Who wants her to fade away?
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:11 PM
Sep 2013


Does anyone truly think the Democratic Party will have a problem in 2016 with the likes of Rubio or Cruz? Perry? Palin or Romney again?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
28. Better than the others but I truly doubt they could stand a chance in today's climate.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:59 PM
Sep 2013

I think Obama has reset the bar for Presidential candidates. Smart and dynamic are in. Neither of those two wannabes project the same kind of confidence.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

markpkessinger

(8,395 posts)
37. Well, I hope you're right . . .
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:19 PM
Sep 2013

Christie's blow-hard persona seems to have a certain unfortunate appeal for a lot of folks.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
15. It's 3 years out ... why do we have to pick NOW?
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:12 PM
Sep 2013

Someone in another thread said 3 years out is 'too soon to expect' any (potential) candidate to 'have a position' on anything ... well, then isn't it too soon to have candidates?

Let us see what the next year brings economically and socially and THEN see who steps to the front of the pack and what ideas they have, thanks.

brooklynite

(94,534 posts)
21. You don't have to pick at all...
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:20 PM
Sep 2013

...you can wait until 2016 and then complain that "they" (fill in evil organization of your choice) didn't let your candidate run. The reality is that candidates have been running (or positioning themselves in case they do) since last September. Complain all you want, but it's the reality of our political system. If you want someone who ISN'T Clinton, Biden, Schweitzer, O'Malley or Klobuchar (hint: Warren isn't running), you're going to need to convince them now to start getting organized.

Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #17)

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
22. Warren. Biden is off my list...
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:22 PM
Sep 2013

Having failed to repudiate Obama on chained CPI, Biden has demonstrated himself to be a fraud.

As for Hillary, I might as well vote GOP, so no thanks.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
35. J. Biden-Cuomo-B. Biden-O'Malley-Patrick-Gillibrand-Booker-Warren-Villaraigosa-Dean-Klobuchar
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:13 PM
Sep 2013

Amy Klobuchar - US Senator from Minnesota, strong Iowa support, pro-Labor (those still exist?!?), has that midwestern appeal that crosses regions

Bill Richardson - former New Mexico Governor, Secretary of Energy and US Ambassador to the UN, early supporter of Obama, former Bill Clinton, also has cross-regional appeal

Joe Biden - Vice President of the United States, former US Senator

Elizabeth Warren - speaks for itself

Howard Dean - speaks for itself

Beau Biden - Delaware Attorney General, US Army National Guard Major

Andrew Cuomo - New York Governor, former Secretary of HUD

Martin O'Malley - Maryland Governor, early Obama supporter

Deval Patrick - Massachusetts Governor

Kirsten Gillibrand - New York US Senator

Corey Booker - soon to be New Jersey US Senator, has strong Third Way support (e.g. Republicans hedging their bets)

Antonio Villaraigosa - Los Angeles Mayor, former DNC head


Not sure how viable those last three are. But the first nine already have some national support. Democrats have a really deep bench right now.


 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
38. I hope you weren’t thinking there would be few choices?
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:23 PM
Sep 2013

Because you should have know that argument would inevitably be knocked down.

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
41. Yeah, "it's me or a basket of asps" is how Feinstein holds us hostage here in CA...
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:33 PM
Sep 2013

Dems who work that angle are not with us.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
44. Any natural born citizen, 35 years or older, having lived in the US for 14 years.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:45 PM
Sep 2013

Any natural born citizen, 35 years or older, having lived in the US for 14 years (that answer is both viable, and encompasses quite a few "somebodies&quot .



Not that I want her to fade away, I do however, enjoy replying to the banal with the banal...

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