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Bill Clinton has become vegan, reversed his heart disease and is sharing his recipes!
We all remember when former president Bill Clinton had emergency heart surgery. At the time the prognosis for his recovery was in doubt and Hillary and Chelsea rushed to his side.
A lot has changed and Bill Clinton is doing great with a new trimmed physique and healthy outlook. He shares his newfound health success with us in this conversation with CNN:
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dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)I'd say Bill Clinton probably remains at the top along with JFK.
Pleased to hear he's doing well.
Apart from Billie Holiday he's the person I'd most like to have lunch with.........................ending sentence with prepositions notwithstanding. 
muriel_volestrangler
(105,574 posts)(where the Clinton story will soon drop off):
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/25/1241136/-Bill-Clinton-has-become-vegan-reversed-his-heart-disease-and-is-sharing-his-recipes
GreenEyedLefty
(2,113 posts)He eats fish on occasion...
After watching the documentary "Forks Over Knives" my meat consumption has gone way down.
B2G
(9,766 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)If he still eats fish, he's not a vegan, or even a vegetarian.
Revanchist
(1,375 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)And truth be told, I think my tofu intake's about five times my seafood intake!
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)I do not eat anything with hair, fur or feathers. But I can't give up fish or shellfish.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)I am NOT a vegan, however. I use honey and wear leather. And I occasionally have pizza with cheese on it.
That said, I tell people I am not a vegan, I just eat like one (almost all the time).
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)People understand the term, "vegan," so it is often easier to say at a restaurant than "plant-basd diet."
chervilant
(8,267 posts)Vegan in February. I've lost over sixty pounds, without changing how much I eat, or how often. I feel fantastic!
I wish Ellen DeGeneres would do a special on Veganism, and invite some of us "regular folks," as well as the Big Dog. I have created several recipes I would love to share!
a la izquierda
(12,231 posts)And ten pounds lighter.
I was a vegetarian for 14 years, and gradually made the transition. I love it.
mucifer
(25,527 posts)I've been a vegetarian since 1982. Back then there wasn't much factory farming. Now even dairy farms are corporate huge and crazy.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)I still have a lot to learn -- how to make quick snacks with adequate protein, how to cook things I can freeze in single servings, etc.
I get a lot of ribbing from my omnivorous friends, but a lot of them have hypertension and diabetes. I fear that I will have the "last laugh," macabre though that sounds.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Congrats! 
chervilant
(8,267 posts)I'll post some of my recipes in the vegan forum -- especially my portobellos stroganoff and gumbo recipes I modified.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)There is also a Vegan/Vegetarian, Animal Rights group that would probably love to see new recipes.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1131
chervilant
(8,267 posts)is my command! I'll let you know when I get them posted!
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)
dkf
(37,305 posts)Because I never felt full I was eating all night long. This wasn't junk food either, kale, red cabbage, quinoa, beans...
athena
(4,187 posts)Don't blame the plant-based diet. I've been on a plant-based diet for over seven months now, and I can assure you it's possible to feel full and satisfied. Just make sure you're eating enough olive or canola oil. Drink soy milk to get your vitamin B12, and put flax seed in your oatmeal in the morning to make sure you're getting enough omega-3 fatty acids. It's as simple as that.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)dkf
(37,305 posts)Originally I would make the recipe and it would suffice for 3 nights, then only 2 and my stomach expanded a lot. Someone told me I'm not drinking enough water.
In any case I realized if I want to lose weight I can't eat til I feel full and I need to exercise. The problem is sometimes my stomach starts growling close to bedtime.
I am surprised when others say they lost weight.
athena
(4,187 posts)My husband would be considered "obese" by the usual standards, but switching to a plant-based diet and increasing the amount of exercise he gets only resulted in a loss of about five pounds over a period of six or seven months. I'm average weight, and I lost about two pounds. I think that the range of healthy weights is much larger than we are lead to believe.
Even if you don't lose any weight, switching to a plant-based diet will reduce your blood pressure and bad cholesterol, increase your good cholesterol, and reduce your chances of getting cancer and heart disease.
Personally, though, I would never have had enough discipline to switch to a plant-based diet based on health reasons. It's much easier to switch for the animals and the environment. If you'd like to give it another try, I'd highly recommend "Vegucated," which is available streaming on Netflix.
dkf
(37,305 posts)I don't think I have any health problems other than having gained weight since hitting 40 so this isn't for health per se. I'm just not used to seeing all this fat after being effortlessly at a consistent weight all my pre-40 adult life.
If I can get back to relatively painless weight control through a satisfying diet I would love it.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Even if it's just a banana or PB sandwich. As long as you're not feeling hunger pains, your body will be satisfied.
dkf
(37,305 posts)I think the problem was that I made the dish too enjoyable.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)“Once a week or so, he will have a helping of organic salmon or an omelet made with omega-3-fortified eggs, to maintain iron, zinc and muscle mass,” wrote Joe Conason in the AARP magazine’s August/September 2013.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/03/bill-clinton-pretending-to-be-a-vegan-so-he-can-talk-about-being-a-vegan/#ixzz2g66YXOuU
bunnies
(15,859 posts)
If everyone ate the way he does, the benefit to animals and the planet would be significant. The entire factory farm industry would crumble.
There are things that matter more than terminology. I'd much rather have half of all omnivores reduce their consumption of animal products by a factor of two than have the fraction of "pure" vegans double.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)He just shouldn't go around calling himself a "vegan" when he still eats salmon and eggs. It's simply a question of using accurate terminology.
athena
(4,187 posts)When asked about his diet, he says he eats a mostly plant-based diet, or that his diet is more or less that of a vegan.
I think that vegans should focus more on popularizing the idea of reducing one's consumption of animal products rather than going around correcting people's terminology. I honestly don't see what that accomplishes other than turning people off the cause.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Just reducing the amount of meat intake is praiseworthy in and of itself.
However, a vegan diet doesn't include salmon or eggs.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Which is far preferable to eating it NONE of the time.
But continue with the hate fest.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)ONE word - or percieved word, in this case - is all it takes for them to get on the soapbox and start berating the crap out of everyone else for not being 'correct enough'.
Ugh, no wonder some people think us liberals are pompous assholes. 
athena
(4,187 posts)Despite my plant-based diet, I'm not vegan either because I can't convince myself that plastic is good for the environment and, by extension, for the animals that depend on that environment. Leather shoes last for years if you take good care of them. My down comforter allows me to turn off the heat at night, and my wool clothes allow me to keep the heat down during the day. The native plants in my garden are there to provide food and shelter to wildlife. I compost to reduce the amount I send to the landfill. If there were an environmentally friendly alternative to down, wool, and leather, I would go for it. But none of that matters: I'm not vegan because I don't fit the 1944 definition of the Vegan Society of the UK.
A consumerist vegan does much more harm to animals than someone who eats an entirely plant-based diet; uses down, leather, and wool; avoids plastic bags and bottles; and rarely buys anything. But terminology-obsessed vegans are more interested in preserving the terminology than in reducing animal suffering overall. The harmful effects of plastics were not known when the term "vegan" was coined, but that doesn't seem to concern anyone. Even religions evolve, but veganism doesn't.
What we need is a term that combines environmentalism and veganism. After all, you can't be a true environmentalist if you eat animals, and you can't be all that concerned about animals if you use plastics. I am so tired of having to provide a long explanation every time an omnivore asks me whether I'm vegan. The sad thing is that they seem curious but lose interest the moment I tell them I'm not really considered vegan because I wear leather shoes. I think, from now on, I will simply say I'm an egan: someone who understands that animals depend on the environment.
xmas74
(30,022 posts)It was stated by his staff that he ate a mostly plant-based diet and that the best way to accommodate his diet would be to offer a vegan menu.
The title is misleading.
econoclast
(543 posts)Ornish has been preaching this message for over 20 years ....
A diet where less than 10% of calories come from fats
+
Moderate exercize
+
Stress reduction
Can and does REVERSE heart disease! Proven with peer reviewed hard science.
You dont have to be vegeterian per se ... But, as a practical matter, getting calories from fats down to under 10% of total calories is very difficult if you consume meat and fish.
And if you do sneak some in ... the meat has to be grass fed and the fish wild caught ( the farm raised fish can be worse than red meat )
NickB79
(20,249 posts)The results suggested that people who eat more than three servings of nuts (1 serving - 28g or about an ounce) a week had a 55% lower risk of death from cardiovascular disease and a 40% reduced risk of death from cancer.
The results revealed that overall, compared with those following the low-fat diet, the participants following the Mediterranean diet had a mortality risk reduced by 39%, and those who ate walnuts had an even lower mortality risk, cut by 45%.
The key is eating the RIGHT kind of fats. Those found in nuts and olive oil are highly beneficial, while the kinds typically found in red meats are generally bad.
Hardlyaround
(98 posts)being a vegan is not a possibility for me, even if I had the slightest inkling to do so, I like my steak, burgers, chicken, and such too much.
athena
(4,187 posts)If you have an ounce of kindness in your heart, do some research into factory farming. Then try to eat that "tasty" pork or chicken on your plate.
Hardlyaround
(98 posts)As I said, being a long haul trucker, my food choices are rather limited.
Ever try piloting one of these into a decent restaurant parking lot?
This is my home for 10-11 months out of the year.
athena
(4,187 posts)On the contrary: when you're vegan, you tend to eat at home more often. Since switching to a plant-based diet seven months ago, my husband and I have been spending a lot less on eating out. If your job requires that you eat out frequently, then it may indeed be difficult to go vegan. As veganism becomes more popular, this is slowly changing, and more restaurants are offering healthy and cruelty-free choices.
I can completely sympathize with someone who cannot currently switch to a plant-based diet. What I find objectionable is the statement that you have no interest in being vegan and that you like eating steak and chicken. If you really knew what animals go through, then making such a statement is insensitive because all it does is encourage other people to feel good about eating animals. If you can't go vegan, then there is no point in feeling guilty, but it doesn't help to post about how great it is to eat animals.
Hardlyaround
(98 posts)I posted what I feel and other people can take it as they please.
I do like eating steak and chicken, I make no apologies for it nor do I encourage it, people here are mature enough to make up their own minds.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,985 posts)Maybe you should change your life completely based on her say-so.
Hardlyaround
(98 posts)And I like the way I eat, I still weigh around 180, which is just about right for my 6'0" frame.
RobinA
(10,472 posts)I, for one, knew I liked steak and chicken long before you came along.
How am I attempting to start an argument? I stated my position, that's it.
econoclast
(543 posts)For folks who have heart disease .... For whom the phrase "I'm dying for a steak." Could literally be TRUE ... The Ornish plan can save their lives.
Hardlyaround
(98 posts)If they want to become a vegan, vegetarian, good for them, but because of my choice of career, my choices are rather limited, not that I'm complaining, I love the nomadic lifestyle of being a long haul driver.
Trying to maneuver one of these into a decent restaurant's parking lot is quite the challenge, and usually illegal.
Some truck stops do have restaurants within walking distance, but those are usually geared toward the truckers, not fine dining.
Skittles
(169,613 posts)when I was TDY I invited a trucker who had just woke up and hopped out of his rig to partake in the all-you-can-eat breakfast buffet at a pretty fancy hotel I was staying at .....I've never seen a person eat that much meat in one sitting 
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Skittles
(169,613 posts)I had worked all night (due diligence for a new client)......if I remember right it was Wilkes Barre and it was REALLY COLD.........I ran over to a gas station near the hotel for something and on the way back I cut around a huge truck and ran into the driver as he was hopping out of his rig......struck up a conversation and then said. LET'S GO EAT!!! Great breakfast and wonderful conversation
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Just that reduction of animal products before 6:00 has helped me tremendously. It's not such a radical change in diet or lifestyle. I can still enjoy the foods I like--within reason. I still have the occasional burger or steak. But I find that I do crave those things much anymore. I find that even when it comes to dairy products which I can't tolerate much anyway other than cheese, I don't want. The only thing I can't give up is fish. I can do without chicken which I've never been a fan of. And I can do without pork or red meat. But I will never give up fish, so I could never be a vegetarian. But I can do the Vegan Before 6 and I love it.
Lisa D
(1,532 posts)Thank you so much for posting about it. Off to research now...
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"Why would you think I did?"
Most likely little more than a petulant and self-perceived clever attempt at baiting, and then rationalized through the id as "making a point", is my guess...
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Gosh... did you invent that all by yourself? Or did you snatch it from some clever little person on the internet? Either way, it makes a wonderfully petulant point.... and is up there in wisdom with "I know you are, what am I?," or "I'm rubber, you're glue" and a host of other various third- and fourth-grade responses (not that you';re in third or fourth grade of course, I'd say a few years more advanced than that). Good luck in the playground, though!
Oh, BTW part II (same relevance, same petulance, insert distinction without a difference a here). 
Scout
(8,625 posts)"human beings are clearly naturally omnivores (eaters of both meat and vegetation). Our teeth are a mix of those that carnivores (eaters of just meat) and herbivores have, showing an evolutionary path that proves we are able to process both. "
Zorra
(27,670 posts)In an hour or so I will start making a big batch of homemade Hatch green chili sauce. Then homemade chilis rellenos for lunch.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)I just learned how to make cashew "cheeze" and I've been trying different recipes with it. Nom nom!
Dreamer Tatum
(10,985 posts)Myrina
(12,296 posts)n/t
dana_b
(11,546 posts)I also read that going on a plant based diet can actually heal the damage that has been caused to the blood vessels from years of eating a high fat diet.
My cholesterol has been way too high so about a month and a half ago I went on a primarily plant based diet. Twice I've gone off of it - once for a serving of fish and the second time was to have a piece of pizza with cheese (no meat). Other than those two times I've done away with meat and dairy. So far I've lost six pounds. In two weeks I'll go get my blood work done again and I am hopeful about my numbers improving. The only thing that I know that I need to improve upon is getting more protein into my diet. I have the protein powder and the only way that I can stand the taste is by putting a half a serving in juice. Other than that I need to eat more legumes, quinoa and other higher protein plant based foods (not a big fan of soy).
graywarrior
(59,440 posts)He looks like he has.
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)and reading "The China Study" in 2006. It is incredible how much better I feel when I stick to this way of eating and I recommend both Dr. McDougall's website (http://www.drmcdougall.com) and the book, "The China Study."
Skittles
(169,613 posts)he looks thinner, yes, but paler and weaker
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)any time I see a picture of him.
Oh, and when I was growing up, "Vegetarian" meant someone who didn't eat red meat. I knew more than one self-proclaimed vegetarian who still ate chicken. After a while, sometime in the late 70's, it seems to me, the term expanded to exclude beef, chicken, and pork. But people would still eat fish and be a vegetarian.
The reality is, we evolved as omnivores. As omnivores who ate cooked food, by the way.
Those of you who choose a vegetarian or vegan or whatever diet, good for you. But some of us really don't feel the same need.
Champion Jack
(5,378 posts)
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I eat very little red meat, but I do enjoy chicken and, of course, salmon and halibut ... which I wouldn't be a "real" Alaskan if I didn't. I also like pork, so I eat it when I feel like it. But we also drink green smoothies for breakfast, eat lots of salads and veggies that I've grown in my garden, healthy oils, nuts, etc. We frequently have vegetarian meals. I feel great and am seldom sick, so I figure I'm doing okay. Everything in moderation.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)As a vegetarian I never tell anyone how to eat but I get told almost weekly that I am hard to cook for or that I am too picky about what I eat. I just look at myself who is 67 no health problems and just a tad over weight then look at them very over weight, heart problems, colon problems, hip and knee replacements and just shake my head in wonder.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)I honestly think that completely aside from vegan, vegetarian, meat, and so on, it comes down to eating a good variety of foods which are as fresh as is realistic, and that are mostly prepared from scratch.
I happen to love my own cooking, and today I made a soup I call Chicken of Muchness. It involves chicken, diced tomatoes, onion, green pepper, and carrots. The essential flavoring comes from cinnamon sticks. I serve it with rice, so it's a rice and chicken etc soup.
I agree about the health problems of too many people our age. I hear from people from two different high school classes that I'm connected to, and it's shocking how many have died lately, or how many are reporting serious illness or major surgery. I often joke that I have the Republican Health Care Plan. I don't get sick.
If you were for some reason to wander into my house needing a meal, once you told me you're vegetarian, I'd just ask a few more question to find out just what you eat and I could probably manage. It can be very hard for someone like me to accommodate someone with (from my perspective) very weird food habits, but simple vegetarian? Yeah, I'd have to put some thought into it, since I eat meat all the time, but it's not impossible. Vegan or macro or gluten-free I wouldn't do very well.
Boudica the Lyoness
(2,899 posts)For me it's not a matter of health, evolution, being in some group. I don't eat meat because I will not satisfy my hunger on the dead body of a fellow creature, that loved, dreamed and had compassion...no matter how tasty.
I have been around lots of species of animals and I know what I'm talking about. I have had a pet cow for 23 years. She's a gentle and intelligent soul. She's my friend. She loves and trusts everyone. I'd like to think that if you met her you'd understand. But I know you'd only see her as a tasty meal because you don't have "the need'" to feel empathy/compassion.
Do you base your assertions ("The reality is, we evolved as omnivores. As omnivores who ate cooked food, by the way."
on defensible research? You might want to do a little more research about the foods our proto-human ancestors consumed, especially prior to the discovery of fire.
BTW, vegetarians, by definition, do not eat meat. Anyone who eats meat is not a vegetarian.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)When humans eat meat -- and most of them do -- they almost always cook it. Our digestive systems evolved around cooked food, not just cooked meat. We've been cooking food as long as we've been human.
As for self-described vegetarians who still eat chicken, I'm just relating that I have known more than one person that way.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)And, is he an anthropologist?
My undergraduate degree is in anthropology. I've read a number of books and research articles that contradict your assertion. I encourage you to avoid making unfounded assertions.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Proof of fire and evidence of cooking keeps on being pushed further and further back. Perhaps you got your anthropology degree just last year, but that is a field in which new things keep on being discovered.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)I looked at his online bio. His assertion might be less controversial if evidence of cooked food could be found with early hominids. Too bad. We all know how sparse are THOSE fossil records.
I am rather glad we learned to cook our food somewhere in our prehistory!
Thanks for sharing this research.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)
grasswire
(50,130 posts)....that his hands were shaking when he gestured, when he reached for water cup.
JI7
(93,224 posts)RobinA
(10,472 posts)to it. He looks godawful. And old. I keep wanting to send him a Big Mac and fries.
JI7
(93,224 posts)mucifer
(25,527 posts)Skittles
(169,613 posts)JI7
(93,224 posts)mucifer
(25,527 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)And I hope to live to 84.
DFW
(59,744 posts)While he was in office, he rarely was at a media event where he was without makeup. He has pale skin by nature, and doesn't make much effort to hide it any more.
Up close, he now looks great and is full of vitality.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)and I have been wondering if he was ill in some way.
DFW
(59,744 posts)I was lucky--mine was treatable with stents. His needed a huge bypass operation. People who get those things feel like they have been run over by a truck for months afterward and need rehab.
We got read the same riot act from our cardiologists about diet after the "incidents." He has been stricter about his than I have, but my wife is a brilliant chef, and takes very good care of me--no more butter, only olive oil, no eggs, cheese, ice cream or red meat. But she still cooks a lot of fish (though almost never shellfish) and occasional poultry and vegan dish. Also the usual flax seed and grain stew for breakfast. My cholesterol is way down, and I feel OK, although he is in a lot better shape than I am (should be anyway--I haven't met up with him in 5 years). But he is 6 years older than I am, and he looks it.
If you want another example of someone who has slimmed down, look at Howard Dean. While not embracing any super-healthy diet, gone are the days when Howard was eating at fatty campaign and/or fundraising dinners every night. Howard was downright chunky after his Presidential run, but is now slim and trim. He loves chocolate, but sticks to high-purity (usually 70% or higher) dark chocolate. I send him care packages regularly, as I'm in Belgium and France once a week for work. He likes the good stuff. It's been said that the high-purity stuff is good for you. It sure is GOOD, anyway, so we're only too ready to believe it.
It's difficult to make the adjustment to healthy eating, but it can be done, and it's true that you have a chance of looking and feeling better for it (no guarantees, though!!)
aikoaiko
(34,213 posts)
flvegan
(65,784 posts)aikoaiko
(34,213 posts)...to cook something tastey and filling.
flvegan
(65,784 posts)Or push buttons on a microwave.
I suppose that depending on where one lives or how feckless they may be, it could be more difficult. Even almost impossible in some extremes.
aikoaiko
(34,213 posts)Do you mean store bought prepared stuff, or stuff you assemble and cook?
flvegan
(65,784 posts)Meaning it's equally easy or difficult to cook (get ingredients, mix/assemble/accompany) or cook (microwave boxed/canned/pre-made) either with or without the ingredients you mentioned. The difficulty being elevated by a couple factors I mentioned.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)and improved his BP. He added fish, eggs, cheese and chicken to his vegan diet on the recommendation of his doctor. Made all the difference in the world.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)trimmer, and more fit, when I drastically reduce the amount of meat, grain, and dairy in my diet. I'm no vegan, nor a vegetarian, but I eat more vegetables than anything else.
I don't like soy, but quorn provides low-fat protein.
I'll still eat meat, fish, grain, and dairy. Just not every day, and not very much.
Tonight? Chili made with ground quorn: tomatoes, onions, celery, kale, a variety of peppers and mild chilis, spices, and a small amount of quorn.
I'm glad to see BC attending to his health.
calimary
(89,042 posts)Works for me! And it got him off those damn casseroles and quickie runs to Jack-in-the-Crack. SOOOOO glad he's backed way off of red meat. It's been my hope for about 30 years now! He lost 50 pounds, too. And it hasn't hurt me either! I'm down at least 40 pounds now, although high blood pressure has never been an issue for me.
We actually went to a vegan restaurant recently, and he loved it! Quinoa pasta, and saitan for "meat". Totally acceptable and delicious, the texture was good, the flavor was wonderful! I'd have that stuff again. And best of all, so would he! Time was he wouldn't even have considered it. Now he talks about eating that way permanently, even after the weight-reduction program we're both on - ends. I couldn't be happier! And he's finding, he couldn't be healthier!
longship
(40,416 posts)Myself. I'm from Terra, not Vega, apparently like Big Dawg, so I am not a Vegan either.
Like many Terrans, I am also an omnivore.
And I very much doubt that Big Dawg's health has anything to do with his Vegan diet -- especially since he is not apparently doing that.
I think it's what doctors have been saying for decades. Eat moderately with a diverse diet, get exercise, don't smoke, and if you drink, do so in moderation. The secret to good health is moderation, not a secret recipe or diet.
Bill Clinton is healthy today, not because he's Vegan (he isn't), but because he eats less, with more veggies, and is exercising more. That's the secret.
on edit: and if you are a vegetarian or a Vegan for any reason, good for you. I have no issue with people who choose a specific diet.
However, I have a big problem with Vegans who have been trumpeting Big Dawg's Vegan diet for some time as being responsible for his apparent good health when he isn't even a Vegan.
xmas74
(30,022 posts)He had already moved more toward the vegan diet back then and was very appreciative that we were more than willing to accommodate his requests.
BTW-all the food at the event looked not just beautiful, in a cold catered way, but actually looked downright yummy.