7 Hours in a Car with a Minnesota Conservative...

[Agschmid]

- Why is it called Obamacare!? Who names a law after themselves, who does he think he is?
- I voted for Romney... Meanwhile she is elderly, unemployed, and without medical care.
- She did not vote for Obama because he is a Muslim (YES... For real!) FWIW... I think that is code for because he is "black".
- She is pro-choice.

WTF... I really don't get it? How can we get these people to realize they vote 100% against their self interests? How do they not see it?

And my god if she was not family she would be on the side of the road in NH somewhere... Live free or die!

[Walk away]

1. Mental illness.

There's no other explanation.

[Agschmid]

2. Yes I tend to agree...

[silvershadow]

28. At the very least, cognitive dissonance. nt

[VanillaRhapsody]

29. its a mental illness alright

Its called racism

[Tx4obama]

3. Did you tell her it's really The Affordable Care Act and the Republicans nicknamed it Obamacare?

[Agschmid]

4. Yup.

And then I told her all about the Heritage Foundation and how Mitt Romney essentially launched the plan in Mass.

This was all news to her. Mind you she is on Minnesota health currently (you know a socialist medical plan!) but she is not the problem!

This is when we got into the whole Muslim bit...

And then I told her Obama must be hung like a horse and he is apparently so cocky he named the damn bill after himself. Needless to say there was a period of silence after that.

Oye.

[B Calm]

5. I hate sharing the same air with the dumb bastards!

[pinboy3niner]

6. LOL!

Yes, that's what we're dealing with.

Kudos to you for not dumping her.

[Agschmid]

8. Hey I only said I didn't dump her in NH...

If you drive for 7 hours you are not in NH the whole time... Just saying.

[pinboy3niner]

9. Heh heh

Okay, I retract my kudos.

[lunasun]

7. ODS - a DSM code needed

remind her of the ACA death panels
sometimes they quiet down then in remorse

[The Wielding Truth]

10. If you have to ever do this again find Randi Rhodes and download as much as possible

and play it on the radio maybe reality will seep into her Right wing brainwashed mind. She is, sadly ... so brain washed.

[Cha]

11. The republicons derisively named it Obamacare and now they're sorry.

Poor thing has mainlined fox news until she's nothing but a babbling idiot.

[dem in texas]

12. I have a nephew just like this

His parents are deceased, he is disabled and autistic. and my family keeps an eye on him. He does not drive and take him shopping once a week and get to hear his right wing rants. He is tea party all the way. He reads all the right wing blogs on the internet and gets all kinds of mail that say things like Obama is a Muslim and believes everything they say.

He receives disability and medicare and he is in section 8 housing. He can't understand that if it were not for these Democratic programs, he would probably be dead, having died of lack of medical care, housing or starvation.

[brewens]

24. I have a friend with MS that is just like that. Without all the programs he benefits

from, courtesy of liberal Democrats and some moderate republicans, he would have a miserable life or be dead already. At the very least he's be dependant on his family to take care of him. That would mean thousands in expenses every year and a considerably lower status for him.

As it is, he's got a power chair, customized van, handicapped accessible in every way free housing, and with in reason, can pretty much go where he pleases. I guarantee you, the value of every service he uses and what he consumes is more than my lifestyle costs. It's probably not even close. Still, he's teabagger to the bone.

[Nay]

35. We had RW neighbors just like this. They were always bitching

about welfare mothers, but were perfectly happy to stick their profoundly mentally damaged daughter in a state care home to the tune of at least (my guess) $200,000 per year of taxpayer money so they didn't have to take care of her at home.

If there's anything we know about most of these RWers, it's that they themselves are little more than profoundly mentally damaged themselves.

[pscot]

13. Cut her a little slack

Make her laugh, and God will plant a flower on your head.

[Agschmid]

15. No slack.

Think of it this way... If you voted for
Obama she made your vote not count. Someone who believes every lie she hears and is convinced he is a Muslim...

Sucks huh?

[merrily]

14. I am not sure I could survive for seven hours.

She objects to naming the law "Obamacare," but she voted for Romney?

Did you break the news to her about Romneycare?

[Agschmid]

16. Yes.

I managed because it was 3 vs. 1 I'm not really sure how she made it!

[merrily]

17. Did she think you were all insane, or did she believe you?

[Agschmid]

19. I think we got her to understand some of it...

The post below this makes a valid point and we tried to love the discussion on to the next election.

[merrily]

22. It's one thing not to have voted for Obama. It's another thing not to have voted for Obama

because you think he is a Muslim.

I would not have been able to let stuff like that go., either, regardless.

Anyway, ya done good.

[Agschmid]

23. Thanks.

If I can change one mind and help them see the light I'm doing a good thing.

[hfojvt]

18. I don't see it either

Why do you care that she didn't vote for Obama?

The way I remember it Obama won anyway, or am I missing something?

Wouldn't it have been more relevant for you two to talk about Hillary? Presumably she will not vote against Hillary because she thinks Hillary is a muslim, will she?

And you think she voted 100% against her interests. That because she is "elderly, unemployed and without medical care" that means she should have voted for Obama. Yet Obama won and she still seems to be "elderly, unemployed and without medical care". Shouldn't she be billions of ways better off because Obama won?

Maybe her votes for Congress matter too.

[Agschmid]

20. Things get simplified when you post them on the internet...

But we did talk about Hilary and according to her she feels comfortable supporting her.

So really it all boils down to racism or issues with religion. I think it is good to point out when people are being bigoted and BO was the relevant example in this case.

[hfojvt]

25. interesting that a conservative would vote for Hillary

I think it is annoying how so many people want to jump right to race when it comes to Obama.

And Obama is now yesterday's news. He's a lame duck. Not really the most relevant topic. Not worth arguing about.

[BainsBane]

21. Jeez, I'm a Minnesotan

and I don't take extended car rides with MN conservatives. I see them at some holiday dinners (my sister's in-laws) but we are forbidden from discussing politics in mixed company.

[MADem]

26. Who names a law after themselves, who does he think he is?

Gee, since the program was based on ROMNEYCARE, maybe your little friend should ask Mitt the Shit about that!!!!!

[world wide wally]

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[LeftyMom]

30. She's family. Talk about something agreeable.

I have a relative who was sorely disappointed that Alan Keyes didn't run for president again, and who sees more secret Muslims in politics than a season's worth of Homeland scripts.

We talk about sports and cars. Because he's family, and family is important.

[Warpy]

31. I hope the next time she wants to go someplace

you tell her to buy a bus ticket.

[lunasun]

32. or rent a private limo- (no subsidies) and the driver will agree with er trash talk for tip$ !

everyone happy

[Nay]

33. How can she be elderly and without medical care? Medicare kicks in at

age 65. Just wondering.

[malaise]

34. Did you tell her that ReTHUGs named it Obamacare

to ridicule it and it backfired big time

[IronLionZion]

36. ...

[gopiscrap]

37. OMG I would have been tempted to either cut my wrists or choke her.

[Agschmid]

38. Violence is usually not the answer...

But it was rough!

[gopiscrap]

39. I was being sarcastic

[Agschmid]

40. It's cool I knew that.

[gopiscrap]

41. I figured as much