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[cthulu2016]

Last edited Mon Sep 30, 2013, 04:28 PM - Edit history (4)

I changed the headline to "delete" rather than self-deleting post 'cause it will sink fast enough this way, but I wanted to explain the situation to anyone misled by the original post (now in in gray box).

I was misled by CNN (and CNN.com) on the topic. Upon further research, it appears that the NICS/NCIC system is unaffected by the shutdown. (At least in the short term) Federal background checks will proceed as usual.

Oh Noes!!!1! You won't be able to Buy a Gun during the Shutdown

No federal background checks will be done.

Actually... I'm surprised they haven't done something about this. Or have they?

Is there a provision that if the Feds haven't responded by hours X you get to buy the gun?


If so, get working on the "Felons lining up to buy guns under Republican shut-down" stories.

[seabeyond]

1. oh noes is right. if there is anything to get the repugs up in arms....

oooops, bah hahahah. lol.

this is it

[Ohio Joe]

2. I have no doubt the gun nuts will still get their guns...

There are plenty of ways to get a gun without going through a background check... The good ol NRA makes sure of that shit.

[Turbineguy]

3. If felons are able to buy guns

that would be another desirable outcome.

for republicans.

[1-Old-Man]

4. Holy Shit! I've only got 96 guns, how will I survive without more.

Boo Fucking Hoo!

[Stallion]

5. Wait Until WALMART Hears about This!!!

.....Obama taking away our Freedoms again

[legcramp]

6. Except for this

Air-traffic controllers, Transportation Security Administration workers who screen passengers and other transportation safety work would continue. So would activities to preserve health and safety such as food inspections and oversight of hazardous materials. Background checks for gun purchases would continue.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/most-liers-wouldn-t-instantly-feel-government-shutdown-1.6158448

[Contrary1]

14. But...what about permits?

"...A shutdown would affect the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Translation: That gun permit you wanted processed wouldn't happen anytime soon."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/23/politics/government-shutdown-daily-life/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

[Jenoch]

19. The NICS system is used by law enforcement

as well as being used for background checks for gun purchases. It is not continuing just because of the background checks.

[uppityperson]

7. SEE!!!!! Obama IS coming for your gunz!!!!!1111

[B Calm]

8. LOL I think I'll pop some pop corn and enjoy the show!

[gejohnston]

10. have some carmel corn?

[gejohnston]

9. NICS will be up and running

as will NCIC.

[cthulu2016]

12. My bad. CNN misled me, but I see upon googling that you are correct

4. Pass the ammunition: Not so fast. A shutdown would affect the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Translation: That gun permit you wanted processed wouldn't happen anytime soon.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/23/politics/government-shutdown-daily-life/index.html

[gejohnston]

18. FBI runs NICS

ATFE deals with National Firearms Act (aka Title 2 of the Gun Control Act) items that has been slow since the 1930s because they still do it "the old fashioned way".

[Logical]

11. Sure you can, In any parking lot from any gun owner! No questions asked! nt

[hack89]

13. Yes you can

A dealer can sell a gun three days after he submits a background check if NICS does not specifically return a "no" response. In other words no reply means "yes"

The system default favors gun buyers - which is why NICS will still be up and running during a shutdown.

[Jefferson23]

17. Thank goodness for that! n/t

[pintobean]

15. I applaud your edit.

I wish everyone here had such character.

[hack89]

16. Not every state uses the Federal system - 20 states do their own handgun checks.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/general-information/participation-map