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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original post)	darkangel218	Oct 2013	OP
I was just on a jury that sent a troll to oblivion! He/she was SO OBVIOUS! They aren't even	CTyankee	Oct 2013	#1
I love 6-zip decisions	malaise	Oct 2013	#5
funny that they are here at the nadir of their popularity with the general public!	CTyankee	Oct 2013	#7
trolls	kardonb	Oct 2013	#13
Ever read the comments on a Washington Post article? Same reason they troll those, too.	Mayberry Machiavelli	Oct 2013	#71
and I hate em	PatrynXX	Oct 2013	#25
Is it ok to post that jury decision?	Katashi_itto	Oct 2013	#9
I don't know. Is it? I could...	CTyankee	Oct 2013	#29
I have seen jury decisions posted all the time.	Curmudgeoness	Oct 2013	#33
well, OK...	CTyankee	Oct 2013	#35
That doesn't work.	Curmudgeoness	Oct 2013	#37
I'll try. Here...	CTyankee	Oct 2013	#40
I love it when jury results come out this way.	Curmudgeoness	Oct 2013	#45
Nice!	Katashi_itto	Oct 2013	#55
the one who admitted to being a Republican?	BainsBane	Oct 2013	#41
Yep. Funny, isn't it? Not even "trying" to sound "democratic"...	CTyankee	Oct 2013	#42
I give him credit for being honest	BainsBane	Oct 2013	#56
Missed me again.	L0oniX	Oct 2013	#51
I'm with you and think you might enjoy this fun/snarky 'lazy millennial' video.	Snarkoleptic	Oct 2013	#2
"Divide and conquer. Smirk." - Republicon, Inc. (R)	Berlum	Oct 2013	#6
That is pretty awesome.	blackspade	Oct 2013	#15
This boomer still regards the sixties as a lot of unfinished business	Jack Rabbit	Oct 2013	#19
Well, I'm not one of those boomers.	Curmudgeoness	Oct 2013	#34
I am a bit older than a baby boomer,	RebelOne	Oct 2013	#48
I'm betting that a lot of them were actually pro-war frat rats	eridani	Oct 2013	#64
Lord how I love that "Zen cat" of yours!	7962	Oct 2013	#31
Feel free to borrow it.	Snarkoleptic	Oct 2013	#61
Yeah,...because, like,...boomers invented, like shampoo and stuff.	Spitfire of ATJ	Oct 2013	#50
Twice on Sunday	Blue Owl	Oct 2013	#3
as someone who last night was "gotcha" at work	littlewolf	Oct 2013	#4
k&r	idwiyo	Oct 2013	#8
As someone who has been accused by the same tiny cabal over and over again....	LaydeeBug	Oct 2013	#10
Sorry, i dont turn the other cheek.	darkangel218	Oct 2013	#11
turning the other cheek was actually a revolutionary act, not a passive one	LaydeeBug	Oct 2013	#14
you turn the other cheek, you give a conservatard a fresh cheek to punch	Nanjing to Seoul	Oct 2013	#53
Wow, it sounds to me like you are vying for toughest poster on the block.	rhett o rick	Oct 2013	#57
Why dont you discuss issue here and not worry so much about the trolls	darkangel218	Oct 2013	#58
You are absolutely right. I shouldnt get involved in the "let's round up a posse and find a troll	rhett o rick	Oct 2013	#60
And who this "tiny cabal" might be?	darkangel218	Oct 2013	#12
I don't really have a problem with your OP as long as	LaydeeBug	Oct 2013	#17
Great OP/rant	IrishAyes	Oct 2013	#16
Here is the thing darkangel218..Many of these freaks have been or are poor or have young adults	Tikki	Oct 2013	#18
Effective trolling plays both ends against the middle.	zeemike	Oct 2013	#20
I have plenty of evidence to "prove".	darkangel218	Oct 2013	#21
Well said!!!!	Buddaman	Oct 2013	#22
Disagreeing with you	pintobean	Oct 2013	#23
Calling out RW trolls in general is not meta.	darkangel218	Oct 2013	#24
Then take it to Admin.	zeemike	Oct 2013	#43
The lazy - worthless meme put out by the right	Diego_Native 2012	Oct 2013	#26
I remember when they used to be somewhat entertaining	Skittles	Oct 2013	#27
How do you people keep up with all the posting?	SleeplessinSoCal	Oct 2013	#28
Awesome post!	MNBrewer	Oct 2013	#30
But if you do...wear one of these!	Ken Burch	Oct 2013	#32
I think calling people trolls	LWolf	Oct 2013	#36
+1	pintobean	Oct 2013	#38
+100	Chico Man	Oct 2013	#49
+1	leftstreet	Oct 2013	#59
Well said. nm	rhett o rick	Oct 2013	#62
IOW, WTF are you talking about (OP)?	Doctor_J	Oct 2013	#67
this is the big one	maindawg	Oct 2013	#39
Righteous rant	treestar	Oct 2013	#44
Don't let them get to you.	greytdemocrat	Oct 2013	#46
Really self loathing is very last year!	whistler162	Oct 2013	#47
Most of us can spot them pretty quickly	Warpy	Oct 2013	#52
That's a well reasoned measured response.	el_bryanto	Oct 2013	#54
I think it's a vicious cycle...	Decaffeinated	Oct 2013	#63
? lower work ethic?	Skittles	Oct 2013	#65
Call it what you want...	Decaffeinated	Oct 2013	#66
much of that is over-simplified crap	Skittles	Oct 2013	#69
Ignore it if you want...	Decaffeinated	Oct 2013	#70
try to ignore this	Skittles	Oct 2013	#75
That is also likely a contributing factor...	Decaffeinated	Oct 2013	#76
In which industry would you like my generation to employ a work ethic?	Earth_First	Oct 2013	#72
I think you summed it up nicely...	Decaffeinated	Oct 2013	#73
No, you summed it up in what used to be a quality of life for most Americans	Earth_First	Oct 2013	#74
LWE=RTP.	Dark n Stormy Knight	Oct 2013	#77
For all they try to sneak, you can usually spot them from a mile away.	JoeyT	Oct 2013	#68

Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 05:22 PM

CTyankee (61,246 posts)

1. I was just on a jury that sent a troll to oblivion! He/she was SO OBVIOUS! They aren't even

"trying" to be reasonable any more.

Good. Easier for us to dispatch them faster!

It was a 6-zip decision, BTW.

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 05:34 PM

malaise (252,610 posts)

5. I love 6-zip decisions

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Response to malaise (Reply #5)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 05:38 PM

CTyankee (61,246 posts)

7. funny that they are here at the nadir of their popularity with the general public!

Why in the world would they try to troll a VERY left wing website? Makes NO sense to me...

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #7)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 05:59 PM

kardonb (777 posts)

13. trolls

you cannot possibly connect RW trolls and sense , can you , honestly ? NO !!!

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #7)

Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:20 PM

Mayberry Machiavelli (21,096 posts)

71. Ever read the comments on a Washington Post article? Same reason they troll those, too.

Now granted the WaPo is now a much more right leaning paper than when I was a lad, but still. They somehow feel they are accomplishing something by just being persistent asses online.

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Response to malaise (Reply #5)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 06:33 PM

PatrynXX (5,668 posts)

25. and I hate em

but I'm for free speech. I tend to get shot at for that. Can you at least shush the swear words so you don't make the right look good. Swear for a good reason okay gutter language for a good reason

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 05:44 PM

Katashi_itto (10,175 posts)

9. Is it ok to post that jury decision?

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Response to Katashi_itto (Reply #9)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 06:40 PM

CTyankee (61,246 posts)

29. I don't know. Is it? I could...

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #29)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 07:00 PM

Curmudgeoness (18,219 posts)

33. I have seen jury decisions posted all the time.

I don't know of any problem with it. I don't see them hidden.

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #33)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 07:03 PM

CTyankee (61,246 posts)

35. well, OK...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=inbox&view=1230917

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #35)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 07:14 PM

Curmudgeoness (18,219 posts)

37. That doesn't work.

You have to do a copy and paste of the entire message. But if you feel uncomfortable about that, don't do what you don't want to do.

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #37)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 07:19 PM

CTyankee (61,246 posts)

40. I'll try. Here...

At Sun Oct 6, 2013, 05:59 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Is all speech you disagree with "hate speech" ?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3796625

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

Admitted Republican insults liberals and defends RW radio hosts.

JURY RESULTS

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Oct 6, 2013, 06:07 PM, and the Jury voted 6-0 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: yawnnnnn....
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: I don't come to DU to listen to this garbage. Hide it, for god's sake!
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: This is a Democratic message board and in-your-face RWNJ's don't belong here.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: I suspect this hide will make his point, and he can show it to all his republican friends. OK.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: This site is for discussion by democrats not to defend ourselves from rude assholes who can't even say democratic instead of democrat while accusing us of the inability of reasoned debate.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: Ah a 27%ter. Go to www.mediamatters.org and all the examples you could every require are there.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #40)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 07:30 PM

Curmudgeoness (18,219 posts)

45. I love it when jury results come out this way.

I did see that post before it was hidden and that was a good call.

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #40)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 08:12 PM

Katashi_itto (10,175 posts)

55. Nice!

Thanks!

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 07:22 PM

BainsBane (52,265 posts)

41. the one who admitted to being a Republican?

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #41)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 07:26 PM

CTyankee (61,246 posts)

42. Yep. Funny, isn't it? Not even "trying" to sound "democratic"...

I've never encountered that before...

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #42)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 08:38 PM

BainsBane (52,265 posts)

56. I give him credit for being honest

Made it easy to dispatch him.

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 07:48 PM

L0oniX (31,493 posts)

51. Missed me again.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 05:23 PM

Snarkoleptic (5,910 posts)

2. I'm with you and think you might enjoy this fun/snarky 'lazy millennial' video.

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Response to Snarkoleptic (Reply #2)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 05:35 PM

Berlum (7,044 posts)

6. "Divide and conquer. Smirk." - Republicon, Inc. (R)

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Response to Snarkoleptic (Reply #2)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 06:01 PM

blackspade (10,056 posts)

15. That is pretty awesome.

I'll have to share this with some of my millennial friends.

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Response to Snarkoleptic (Reply #2)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 06:13 PM

Jack Rabbit (45,984 posts)

19. This boomer still regards the sixties as a lot of unfinished business

But the point is taken. The world is what it is today because other boomers made a mess of our dreams.

How many of my friends with whom I demonstrated against the Vietnam War in 1970 grew up to be assholes who voted for Reagan in 1980?

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #19)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 07:03 PM

Curmudgeoness (18,219 posts)

34. Well, I'm not one of those boomers.

I am still angry at where the country is going, and I am still 100% Democrat. I just wish I was still idealistic and energetic...somewhere along the way, I lost that.

We may not have met at those demonstrations, but I was there too. Or, maybe we did.

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #19)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 07:37 PM

RebelOne (30,947 posts)

48. I am a bit older than a baby boomer,

but I definitely did not vote for Reagan, as I really hated the man almost as much as I hated Bush.

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #19)

Mon Oct 7, 2013, 02:28 AM

eridani (51,907 posts)

64. I'm betting that a lot of them were actually pro-war frat rats

Left activists in the 60s were a minority, albeit a substantial one.

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Response to Snarkoleptic (Reply #2)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 06:47 PM

7962 (11,841 posts)

31. Lord how I love that "Zen cat" of yours!

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Response to 7962 (Reply #31)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 09:20 PM

Snarkoleptic (5,910 posts)

61. Feel free to borrow it.

I did.

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Response to Snarkoleptic (Reply #2)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 07:45 PM

Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)

50. Yeah,...because, like,...boomers invented, like shampoo and stuff.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 05:24 PM

Blue Owl (43,508 posts)

3. Twice on Sunday

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 05:28 PM

littlewolf (3,653 posts)

4. as someone who last night was "gotcha" at work

I wonder if the same thing may have happened to some of them.
not likely in most cases, I know. But still ....

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 05:39 PM

idwiyo (5,113 posts)

8. k&r

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 05:55 PM

LaydeeBug (10,291 posts)

10. As someone who has been accused by the same tiny cabal over and over again....

Maybe you shouldn't pass judgement? I'm just sayin'...

But fuck a tea bagger if they're here.

on edit to add that I haven't seen the thread this refers to, but I have been on the receiving end of people insinuating I was a right winger.

It ain't fun, and it damn site isn't *true*. (edit again for silly typos)

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #10)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 05:56 PM

darkangel218 (13,985 posts)

11. Sorry, i dont turn the other cheek.

I will pass judgement when crap is being thrown in my face.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #11)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 06:00 PM

LaydeeBug (10,291 posts)

14. turning the other cheek was actually a revolutionary act, not a passive one

but I understand what you're saying. I have no problem speaking truth to lies, but there were people here who would bully me when I would post things in my travels battling teabaggers, and turning the other cheek had absolutely nothing to do with it

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #14)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 08:05 PM

Nanjing to Seoul (2,088 posts)

53. you turn the other cheek, you give a conservatard a fresh cheek to punch

Screw that noise. I like Sean Connery's attitude from The Untouchables: "They bring a knife, you bring a gun. They put one of yours in the hospital. . .you put one of theirs in the morgue."

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #11)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 08:39 PM

rhett o rick (55,981 posts)

57. Wow, it sounds to me like you are vying for toughest poster on the block.

You want so badly to smite the trolls. Probably dont worry too much how guilty they are as long as you are smiting away. "Gota rope, just lookin for someone to hang."

I see that your bravado has made you some fans. Authoritarians love that rough, tough talk.

Why dont you discuss issue here and not worry so much about the trolls. Trolls have a tendency to get themselves in trouble without much fuss. And we all recognize trolls.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #57)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 08:46 PM

darkangel218 (13,985 posts)

58. Why dont you discuss issue here and not worry so much about the trolls

You could follow your own example and not worry so much about others experiences.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #58)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 09:04 PM

rhett o rick (55,981 posts)

60. You are absolutely right. I shouldnt get involved in the "let's round up a posse and find a troll

to hang." posts. I just dont think it's appropriate behavior of "politically liberal" posters.

How do you feel about the TPP? Here is a great post: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023790436

Do you ever discuss the TPP?

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #10)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 05:58 PM

darkangel218 (13,985 posts)

12. And who this "tiny cabal" might be?

I don't belong to no cabals.

Sorry you have a problem with my OP.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #12)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 06:04 PM

LaydeeBug (10,291 posts)

17. I don't really have a problem with your OP as long as

you're *sure* you have a troll.

I've been active in Democratic politics since before I could vote, and have worked EACH AND EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY election for democrats since 1986. I've never missed a vote...not even a primary.

Having someone impugn your allegiance is a pretty shitty thing, but I am not saying you were part of my cabal. (I call them the R S T L N E ers because it is always the same thing with them, and I am honestly starting to think THEY are the ones interested in seeing right wing smears going unchecked)

Lately, however, this place has been unified *heaven* for me.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 06:01 PM

IrishAyes (6,151 posts)

16. Great OP/rant

Thanks for posting. You're absolutely correct.

BTW, I got a post and re-post AND separate personal response blocked the other day when I went on the tear of my life. But I'm not a troll, and I can easily live with being called anything else. That would be the worst! Might hurt my feelings if that ever happened.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 06:12 PM

Tikki (14,302 posts)

18. Here is the thing darkangel218..Many of these freaks have been or are poor or have young adults

in their family who are struggling but they are bigots and they honestly believe if they drag others down it builds them up.

Most of these freaks were poorly raised by bad parenting.

Tikki

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 06:14 PM

zeemike (18,998 posts)

20. Effective trolling plays both ends against the middle.

You will have trolls that say nasty things, and then trolls that rave against them.
And the whole purpose is to cause us all to go troll hunting and attack each other and cause suspicion among us.
It is a losing game for us...and they think it is funny when we fall for it.
The only way to deal with it is to talk about the issues and not accuse anyone of things you can never prove, and let the admin deal with the trouble makers as they surely will.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #20)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 06:17 PM

darkangel218 (13,985 posts)

21. I have plenty of evidence to "prove".

Fuck them. RW fucks don't belong here. Let them go back to their caves where the sun never shines.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #21)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 06:24 PM

Buddaman (503 posts)

22. Well said!!!!

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #21)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 06:27 PM

pintobean (18,101 posts)

23. Disagreeing with you

isn't proof. If you really have proof, take it to admin. They can deal with it. Meta call-outs just cause more problems.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #23)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 06:31 PM

darkangel218 (13,985 posts)

24. Calling out RW trolls in general is not meta.

So you can disagree all you want.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #21)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 07:27 PM

zeemike (18,998 posts)

43. Then take it to Admin.

I am sure they will act on it if it is what you say it is.
That is what I would do.
But honestly it sounds more like you want a witch hunt....and for us all to join you in purging those who don't think right....or should I say think left...and perhaps want to define what left thinking is all about.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 06:36 PM

Diego_Native 2012 (65 posts)

26. The lazy - worthless meme put out by the right

is ignorant propaganda.

As much as I can I try to explain to anyone who will listen that "effort" and "opportunity" are not the same things.

You can work like a dog all your life...as so many do...and it will get you nothing if it doesn't come with opportunities.

Opportunity is what makes money. Most opportunities are the result of birth and having nothing to do with effort. If you're white, if your parents are wealthy and educated, if you are born in the right place, if you're a male, if you have enough food, enough access to health care...ALL of these create opportunities for you to make money and require absolutely no effort on your part.

Effort CAN create opportunities but it will never give you the opportunities that hitting the genetic lottery can. You CAN work hard and put yourself through school. You CAN build a business from the bottom, if you have a great deal of luck and help...but you're competing against people who have a leg up on you (several legs up even) and your effort can never even the playing field from those gifted with built in opportunity by virtue of birth.

I see people every day working themselves to death just to keep their heads above water. They expend superhuman effort...and it will never be enough to overcome the opportunities so many on the right take for granted.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 06:40 PM

Skittles (147,653 posts)

27. I remember when they used to be somewhat entertaining

that time has long passed

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 06:40 PM

SleeplessinSoCal (7,763 posts)

28. How do you people keep up with all the posting?

I hardly come across a troll because I'm so busy skimming through to find the gist of the discussion. Fortunately for me, the trolls are buried by information

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 06:44 PM

MNBrewer (8,462 posts)

30. Awesome post!

fellow "banned in the bog" DUer!

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 06:55 PM

Ken Burch (50,254 posts)

32. But if you do...wear one of these!

(You can't be sure where they've been, after all).

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 07:11 PM

LWolf (46,179 posts)

36. I think calling people trolls

without naming names is chickenshit, myself.

I also think acting like an enraged middle schooler on crack, spewing hate, poor spelling, lots of ugly names, and way too many exclamation points, is a juvenile, tasteless, and clueless way to make a point which mirrors the worst of the freepers, tea partiers, and right wing "morans" that this site is supposed to oppose.

If you have a problem with something someone posts, why not say so to them, directly, countering their position with evidence and logic? Why "sneak up on" them with personal attacks?

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Response to LWolf (Reply #36)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 07:17 PM

pintobean (18,101 posts)

38. +1

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Response to LWolf (Reply #36)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 07:37 PM

Chico Man (3,001 posts)

49. +100

If you share sentiment with the OP you need some fresh air and fresh perspective. That OP is a fine example of hatred, and that will never make progress.

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Response to LWolf (Reply #36)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 08:51 PM

leftstreet (34,835 posts)

59. +1

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Response to LWolf (Reply #36)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 11:23 PM

rhett o rick (55,981 posts)

62. Well said. nm

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Response to LWolf (Reply #36)

Mon Oct 7, 2013, 12:15 PM

Doctor_J (36,392 posts)

67. IOW, WTF are you talking about (OP)?

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 07:18 PM

maindawg (1,151 posts)

39. this is the big one

so let them have their hissy fit. This is the mother of all hissy fits. They are children. They must scream and cry and stamp their feet and hold their breath until they pass out. They are a bunch of brats living in a bubble They do not know the same reality that we do. The world we actually live in does not exist in the narrative they understand.
So let them get it out. They will tire and go back to their regular nap time schedual .

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 07:28 PM

treestar (80,769 posts)

44. Righteous rant

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 07:33 PM

greytdemocrat (3,296 posts)

46. Don't let them get to you.

I doubt there are that many of them.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 07:35 PM

whistler162 (11,155 posts)

47. Really self loathing is very last year!

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 07:50 PM

Warpy (105,679 posts)

52. Most of us can spot them pretty quickly

and MIRT is on the job, kicking them through the goalposts on their way outta here.

Just alert and step away to watch the fun.

A few of them have been slick enough to evade detection for a while, posting jokes and the like in the DU Lounge. However, they always give themselves away in the end.

They can't help it, you know.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 08:09 PM

el_bryanto (11,804 posts)

54. That's a well reasoned measured response.

Thank you for sharing.

Bryant

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 11:48 PM

Decaffeinated (556 posts)

63. I think it's a vicious cycle...

Crappy economic times coupled with a lower work ethic in the current generation (18-29) just feeds on itself.

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Response to Decaffeinated (Reply #63)

Mon Oct 7, 2013, 02:35 AM

Skittles (147,653 posts)

65. ? lower work ethic?

they've been thoroughly screwed and are very much demoralized; I am not sure that is the same as "lower work ethic"

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Response to Skittles (Reply #65)

Mon Oct 7, 2013, 05:09 AM

Decaffeinated (556 posts)

66. Call it what you want...

As a generation they have all been told what special snowflakes they are and how they deserve a fulfilling job with an excellent salary right out of college (which everyone else also attended by the way)

No one seemed to mention everything that leads up to that...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wait-but-why/generation-y-unhappy_b_3930620.html

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Response to Decaffeinated (Reply #66)

Mon Oct 7, 2013, 06:43 PM

Skittles (147,653 posts)

69. much of that is over-simplified crap

how about the part where Generation Y saw their Boomer parents do all the right things, work long and hard yet end up getting crapped on by their employers, who pimped their jobs off to the lowest overseas bidders and by the 1% who stole a great deal of their economic security? I don't like Generation Y being stereotyped any more than I care for people telling me what I am because I am a Boomer. F*** that.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #69)

Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:17 PM

Decaffeinated (556 posts)

70. Ignore it if you want...

No one is forcing you to do anything.

As nice as it would be, we can't talk about each individual in a large group so we talk about them as a whole. It's pretty easy to just dismiss it though...

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Response to Decaffeinated (Reply #70)

Tue Oct 8, 2013, 05:28 AM

Skittles (147,653 posts)

75. try to ignore this

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-08/gatsby-stays-on-farm-as-income-gap-limits-u-s-social-mobility.html

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Response to Skittles (Reply #75)

Tue Oct 8, 2013, 05:30 AM

Decaffeinated (556 posts)

76. That is also likely a contributing factor...

What a fascinating article....

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Response to Decaffeinated (Reply #63)

Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:31 PM

Earth_First (14,910 posts)

72. In which industry would you like my generation to employ a work ethic?

Finance?
Manufacturing?
IT?

All careers in which politicians were busily working to destroy as we watched our parents enjoying the last great years of the golden age of the Middle Class.

I'm not going to eagerly embrace a shit wage with no benefits and no hope of vast pension funds, a 401 (k) a new vehichle and a yearly family vacation.

Many of us weren't old enough to affect change that currently affects us now, that was *your* doing. So forgive me if I won't roll over and bow down to your "I've got mine" shit-tastic attitude that Gen Y is just being "lazy"

FFS!

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Response to Earth_First (Reply #72)

Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:35 PM

Decaffeinated (556 posts)

73. I think you summed it up nicely...

Short of a guarantee of benefits, pension and vacation... why bother?

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Response to Decaffeinated (Reply #73)

Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:38 PM

Earth_First (14,910 posts)

74. No, you summed it up in what used to be a quality of life for most Americans

in your attitude that because the younger generation is not afforded the same opportunity, that you look upon US as the failure.

Many of us are busting our asses day in and day out, but because we complain of the disintegrating safety net in our country, we are deemed a lazy.

You sound a LOT like my Republican father.

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Response to Decaffeinated (Reply #63)

Sun Oct 20, 2013, 04:09 AM

Dark n Stormy Knight (9,628 posts)

77. LWE=RTP.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2013, 02:33 PM

JoeyT (6,785 posts)

68. For all they try to sneak, you can usually spot them from a mile away.

The "work ethic" thing set off an alarm for me too. There was even a guy that unsarcastically (Is that a word? It should be.) used the word "takers" in a thread about raising the minimum wage. The only people they're fooling are themselves, and that's only because they're so easily fooled.

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