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Bicoastal

(12,645 posts)
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 08:49 PM Mar 2012

It's actually surprising that THIS is the controversy

that's starting to make Limbaugh's sponsors think twice about giving him advertising dollars. Don't get me wrong, I think what he said was terrible, and he fully deserves the shitstorm that's raining down over his head, but--Hasn't he been saying stuff on the air for years that's just as bad or worse? Why was this the straw that broke that camel's back?

I can only guess that when you alienate a demographic that's potentially over 50% of the market, the repercussions are much severe than usual.

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It's actually surprising that THIS is the controversy (Original Post) Bicoastal Mar 2012 OP
I think this was a new low, even for him. Sparkly Mar 2012 #1
I don't know... he called the 13yo daughter of the President a "dog," remember? 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 #12
It was horrible, BUT Sparkly Mar 2012 #14
Not to mention being on the heels of the Komen disaster - women are listening and having none of it. myrna minx Mar 2012 #23
True -- and all the extreme legislation these days Sparkly Mar 2012 #25
Yep - forced vaginal probes and extreme "personhood" legislation - it was too much. myrna minx Mar 2012 #26
I think this is the first time Rush ever asked a woman to post videos of herself having sex Frances Mar 2012 #2
I think it's because it's a perfect storm all american girl Mar 2012 #3
Yes, and let's not forget a maturing progressive media... ClassWarrior Mar 2012 #24
This was Rush's Joe McCarthy moment where he picked the wrong target no_hypocrisy Mar 2012 #4
WOW! What a post. "At long last, have ou left no sense of decency?" calimary Mar 2012 #13
Rush Limbaugh’s McCarthy moment at last no_hypocrisy Mar 2012 #22
The problem was BumRushDaShow Mar 2012 #5
A vile comment combined with an emboldened social media....perfect storm - NRaleighLiberal Mar 2012 #6
every so often they get hoist on their own petard..... Gabi Hayes Mar 2012 #7
You do realize your picture is just of cooling towers right? NutmegYankee Mar 2012 #19
didn't have anything to do with nukes, which some claim to be the Gabi Hayes Mar 2012 #20
Look at who they have running for President. randome Mar 2012 #8
I think it is universal that decent people don't like a big fat slob picking on a young girl. hayrow1 Mar 2012 #9
Because women know that what he said is trying to silence women's voices cally Mar 2012 #10
+1 Matariki Mar 2012 #15
The time is right. If we want it. Gold Metal Flake Mar 2012 #11
Because women have been attacked non-stop over the last few months that we are all on alert. jillan Mar 2012 #16
Perhaps it's because the context is contraception. Jim Lane Mar 2012 #17
I see where you are coming from The Genealogist Mar 2012 #18
He targeted all women in this insult and I think that is what the difference is. Before he often jwirr Mar 2012 #21

2ndAmForComputers

(3,527 posts)
12. I don't know... he called the 13yo daughter of the President a "dog," remember?
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 10:50 PM
Mar 2012

That's gotta be right up there.

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
23. Not to mention being on the heels of the Komen disaster - women are listening and having none of it.
Sun Mar 4, 2012, 11:13 AM
Mar 2012

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
3. I think it's because it's a perfect storm
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 09:00 PM
Mar 2012

and his ego couldn't let it go. He has always gotten away with it, but this time, we have learned how to use the internets to let our collective voices be heard. As a women, I'm just plain sick of all this shit. When these neanderthals get a uterus, they can have an opinion. My hubby, who is not a neanderthal, agrees with me, and that's good enough

ClassWarrior

(26,316 posts)
24. Yes, and let's not forget a maturing progressive media...
Sun Mar 4, 2012, 11:16 AM
Mar 2012

...which is finally influencing the mass media discussion in profound ways.

NGU.

no_hypocrisy

(46,128 posts)
4. This was Rush's Joe McCarthy moment where he picked the wrong target
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 09:02 PM
Mar 2012

who refused to be a victim.

Recap: Joe McCarthy was going after the Army in his Inquisition against Communists because the boyfriend of his partner, Roy Cohn, was drafted. The hearings became focused on a junior attorney who was working for the counsel for the Army, Fred Fisher. McCarthy was bent on destroying this young man publicly on television. Joseph Welch of the same law firm took McCarthy head on:

"Until this moment, Senator, I think I have never really gauged your cruelty or your recklessness. Fred Fisher is a young man who went to the Harvard Law School and came into my firm and is starting what looks to be a brilliant career with us. Little did I dream you could be so reckless and so cruel as to do an injury to that lad. It is true that he will continue to be with Hale and Dorr. It is, I regret to say, equally true that I fear he shall always bear a scar needlessly inflicted by you. If it were in my power to forgive you for your reckless cruelty I would do so. I like to think that I am a gentle man but your forgiveness will have to come from someone other than me."

When McCarthy tried to renew his attack, Welch interrupted him:

"Senator, may we not drop this? We know he belonged to the Lawyers Guild. Let us not assassinate this lad further, Senator. You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_N._Welch

McCarthy never recovered from this famous slap-down.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
13. WOW! What a post. "At long last, have ou left no sense of decency?"
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 10:56 PM
Mar 2012

I've heard that quote and a sketchy note of context about this - but greatly appreciate the enlargement, especially in light of this whole limbaugh savagery. Thank you for posting!!! Brings added gravitas to the work we do!

Speaking of the work we do, I want to share this thread from Fumesucker yet again. It features a REALLY wonderful set of suggestions that you can actually do, and have a serious impact - on the LOCAL radio front.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002374653

Not to be missed! It's well worth your time and participation!

no_hypocrisy

(46,128 posts)
22. Rush Limbaugh’s McCarthy moment at last
Sun Mar 4, 2012, 11:11 AM
Mar 2012

It is his Joe McCarthy moment, the instance where a U.S. Army officer asked McCarthy at a hearing if he had any shame in blindly accusing so many innocent people of sedition and Communist sympathies.


Read more: http://www.irishcentral.com/story/news/people_and_politics/rush-limbaughs-mccarthy-moment-at-last-141319713.html#ixzz1oA3Guod6

BumRushDaShow

(129,101 posts)
5. The problem was
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 09:05 PM
Mar 2012

that this outrage piled onto the circus fiasco in the House where this young lady was refused to be allowed to testify about something that had nothing to do with sex... And then he spent 3 days going further and further down the rabbit hole until he hit the gutter.

Enough if his horseshit. It is time for him to go or at a minimum, be suspended. I don't think he has ever been suspended and it's way way way past time.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
6. A vile comment combined with an emboldened social media....perfect storm -
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 09:08 PM
Mar 2012

and perfect time to finally get him off the air.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
7. every so often they get hoist on their own petard.....
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 09:37 PM
Mar 2012

for DECADES their plan has been to inundate their sworn enemies (anyone sympathetic in any way to the democratic party, or anyone presenting any slight threat to their pursuit of total power) with any and every sort of contumely, vilification (true or not), character assassination, in order to paint their unloyal opposition in the poorest light possible.....

remember, Rove and his ilk, both before and after, studied and employed the works of Bernays and Goebbels (probably Ellul, too), to turn the public against any who stood in their way>>>total destruction, total war, winning at ANY cost

they did this with the "anything that sticks" to the wall technique. whatever filthy lie they tell every single day is spewed out there in concert with their myriad outlets, and most answers, tepid as they usually are, are either ingnored or ridiculed by the media powers that be.

they almost always get away with it, but in their increasingly desperate straights now, given the possibility that the economy is ''recovering'' enough to take away their main chief attack point against Obama, they find themselves flailing about, trying to find SOMEthing, ANYthing that will allow them to turn public against him just enough to get their designated spokesmodel back into the whitehouse.

it's fun to watch, but the collateral damage to real people is nauseating.

the eerie coincidence of the corporeal demise of one of the right's most obnoxious proponents of this tactic, and the (much hoped for) public demise of the spiritual symbol of today's hideously twisted version of the GOP cancer, is a step in the right direction, a step away from the
Business Plot, McCarthy, JFK (sorry coincidence theorists), COINTELPRO, both October Surprises, Iran-Contra, Election Thefts ca. 2000 and 2004, and the countless other conspiracies against the constitution that lie at the core of the Republican political philosophy.

people are starting, finally, to wise up, and it would seem that the new media is finally starting to have some effect against that of the old. for the first time the lies don't always make it all the way around the world before the truth pulls on its boots. let's hope this trend continues, and it's not too late

http://www.fcrn.org.uk/research-library/climate-change/science-background/too-late-stop-dangerous-climate-change

we're so scuh-rood.....



hold on...forgot this:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/bender2.html

from Freud's nephew, the godfather of modern PR:

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country… We are governed, our minds molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized… "

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
19. You do realize your picture is just of cooling towers right?
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 11:51 PM
Mar 2012

The cooling towers are just large heat exchangers and are found at any kind of power plant that isn't near a body of water. I only mention that because many people confuse them for nuclear power plants.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
20. didn't have anything to do with nukes, which some claim to be the
Sun Mar 4, 2012, 12:25 AM
Mar 2012

'solution' to the CO2 buildup that will make our planet uninhabitable for a very large number of species

we're helping it turn into mars a lot faster than it would have on its own

I just like happy pictures

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
8. Look at who they have running for President.
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 09:40 PM
Mar 2012

The GOP is crumbling before our very eyes, just as the USSR did. That's why this is different. As the GOP wanes in power, Progressives rise.

 

hayrow1

(198 posts)
9. I think it is universal that decent people don't like a big fat slob picking on a young girl.
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 09:57 PM
Mar 2012

Sorry if that seems sexist, but I think that is a fact.

cally

(21,594 posts)
10. Because women know that what he said is trying to silence women's voices
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 10:04 PM
Mar 2012

I got physically ill when I heard what he said. A woman who wanted to express her opinion is denigrated as a slut. Those my age remember times in our lives where men called us bitch or slut just for expressing our opinion or wanting to do our jobs. Women were/are outraged and advertisers know that women are their target markets since women buy most of the products.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
17. Perhaps it's because the context is contraception.
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 11:16 PM
Mar 2012

For years, the debate over reproductive rights has been primarily about abortion. The Republican move against contraception, however, has made them seem far more extreme. I think there are many people who oppose abortion rights but who aren't happy about a government ban on or restriction of contraception. (Of course, some of them might even realize that contraception helps reduce the number of abortions.)

Here, Limbaugh's hateful language also strikes at every woman or couple who uses contraception. That's a LOT of people.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
18. I see where you are coming from
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 11:24 PM
Mar 2012

I suppose that there has to be, eventually, a proverbial straw that breaks the camel's back. Rush Limbaugh has made a career out of being a hatemonger. He has spent decades now, appealing to the basest hatreds and prejudices of humankind to create money and power for himself. Eventually, this way of life will come back to haunt him. I don't think this latest outrage will be the end of his career or anything. It might cost him some power and money, but he has created an army of people who think like he does, who speak like he does, who hate like he does.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
21. He targeted all women in this insult and I think that is what the difference is. Before he often
Sun Mar 4, 2012, 12:32 AM
Mar 2012

used generic women like femi-Nazi. Also if they did not understand it before - women and men are in favor of birth control. They have made a huge mistake in bringing up this subject.

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