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kpete

(72,028 posts)
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 07:58 PM Oct 2013

BOOM!!! Jay Carney smacks down ABC's Jonathan Karl: `I'm sure you'll represent' GOP talking points

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney took a jab at ABC Senior White House Correspondent Jonathan Karl on Monday and suggested that he was little more than a Republican Party stenographer who would “represent” House Speaker John Boehner’s (R-OH) point of view.

During Monday’s White House briefing, Carney was telling Reuters correspondent Mark Felsenthal about Boehner’s insistence over the weekend that Republicans would not pass a clean bill to raise the debt ceiling when Karl broken decorum and interrupted.

“That’s not what he said, Jay,” Karl objected. “I’m telling you that’s not what he said.”


“I’m having a conversation here,” Carney shot back. “I’m sure you’ll represent what the Speaker’s saying in a minute.”

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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/07/jay-carney-smacks-down-abcs-jonathan-karl-im-sure-youll-represent-gop-talking-points/
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BOOM!!! Jay Carney smacks down ABC's Jonathan Karl: `I'm sure you'll represent' GOP talking points (Original Post) kpete Oct 2013 OP
I'm glad they are being outed as the shills they are. nt BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #1
What did Boehner say? Make7 Oct 2013 #2
Jonathan Karl is a Right-wing mole passing as a journalist. BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #3
thanks gumby Oct 2013 #4
Glad to finally contribute! :-) eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #13
Yes. The so-called "Collegiate Network." One of many ways to infiltrate and take over the media. calimary Oct 2013 #5
You have to admit though that the Young Republicans on campus were the source for some good jokes... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #7
What happened to ABC? I was flipping through our WestSeattle2 Oct 2013 #6
Isn't ABC Disney owned? Nt abelenkpe Oct 2013 #9
Ouch! The Moony News is their partner? RVN VET Oct 2013 #15
ABC still employs the guy who fabricated a White House Bengazi email? TriplD Oct 2013 #8
Would have been interesting to hear what Karl would have said question everything Oct 2013 #10
He rudely interrupted Jay when he was addressing a question from Reuters. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #11
OK, I accept this (nt) question everything Oct 2013 #12
But that IS what Boner said. And he keeps saying it. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #14
ABC is Fox "News" under a different moniker. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #16
K&R Jay! Cha Oct 2013 #17

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
3. Jonathan Karl is a Right-wing mole passing as a journalist.
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:16 PM
Oct 2013

Here's a little history on this Right-wing Republican that FAIR (Fairness and Accuracy In Reporting):

Conservatives don’t just complain loudly, endlessly and inaccurately about liberal media bias. They also train right-leaning journalists to make their way into the supposedly hostile terrain of Beltway media. And one of the most famous alums of a conservative media training program is now a major star at a network news outlet: ABC’s senior political correspondent Jonathan Karl.

Karl came to mainstream journalism via the Collegiate Network, an organization primarily devoted to promoting and supporting right-leaning newspapers on college campuses (Extra!, 9-10/91)—such as the Rutgers paper launched by the infamous James O’Keefe (Political Correction, 1/27/10). The network, founded in 1979, is one of several projects of the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, which seeks to strengthen conservative ideology on college campuses. William F. Buckley was the ISI’s first president, and the current board chair is American Spectator publisher Alfred Regnery. Several leading right-wing pundits came out of Collegiate-affiliated papers, including Ann Coulter, Dinesh D'Souza, Michelle Malkin, Rich Lowry and Laura Ingraham (Washington Times, 11/28/04).

The Collegiate Network also provides paid internships and fellowships to place its members at corporate media outlets or influential Beltway publications; 2010-11 placements include the Hill, Roll Call, Dallas Morning News and USA Today. The program’s highest-profile alum is Karl, who was a Collegiate fellow at the neoliberal New Republic magazine.
http://fair.org/extra-online-articles/a-right-wing-mole-at-abc-news/


I'm certain Jay and the WH knows aaaall about Mr. Karl's background and life's quest.

calimary

(81,527 posts)
5. Yes. The so-called "Collegiate Network." One of many ways to infiltrate and take over the media.
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:37 PM
Oct 2013

Probably was a classmate of chuck todd-blossom. Wonder if he went there, too.

BTW::::::: I saw Toure today on MSNBC's "The Cycle" - doing a humdinger of a commentary on the plague of false equivalency running rampant in the media. I kept wondering - MAN, is he pointing a finger at todd-blossom - without naming names, that is? Sure seemed like it to me. It was a flat-out condemnation of the efforts by some in "journalism" (maybe we should rename it JERKalism in the name of accuracy in reporting) simply to let both sides say their piece and then expect the listener or viewer to put the pieces together and reach reasonable conclusions. And that is NOT the way it should be done!!! Especially in this day and age where the information brokerage is SO damned polluted with opinion and sneaky-ass snake-oil posing as impartiality. Rachel Maddow makes a perfect analogy to illustrate the point that NOT ALL positions on an issue are worth paying attention to. Not all views are equal or fact-based and should not be presented or misrepresented as such. For example (this is Rachel's) - every time we present a story on NASA or some other space-related report, are we obligated to give equal time to the Flat-Earth Society? And of course the answer is NO FRICKIN' WAY!!!!! Because the Flat-Earth Society has no place having their side "represented" in situations like this. Why? Because THEY DON'T FRICKIN' HAVE A SIDE!!!!! They have NO point worth legitimizing or otherwise wasting a moment of precious airtime gaining credibility. Some sides just do NOT deserve equal status or attention!

Tell that to todd-blossom, of course. He's got a big fat tin ear. But I think he's getting a little heat about it. A stink IS being made. Not a big-enough one, in my opinion. But it's out of the shadows, for sure, and it's being talked about and complained about and petitions have been circulated and signed and comments galore have been posted to let him and his colleagues know that we are ONTO him and there's BROAD disagreement with his assertion that it's not his job to clarify or point out truths and falsehoods. He just wants to be a stovepipe. And he figures that's all he has to do and all he's responsible for, so he can lead into his usual default position that somehow always winds up with "Blame Obama!" I posted on his show's Facebook page about that, too. "...oh, sorry, I forgot, Chuck. You said that's not your job."

Full disclosure: I am a retired broadcast journalist, having been on the news end of things, local and network, for about a quarter century before I retired. This whole subject just galls me to NO END!!! It isn't just doctors who should be sued for malpractice!!!!!!

WestSeattle2

(1,730 posts)
6. What happened to ABC? I was flipping through our
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:38 PM
Oct 2013

local channel lineup the other night, and as I passed by KOMO Channel 4 (ABC affiliate in Seattle), the newsreader was saying "And from our news partner, the Washington Times.."

The Washington Times?! Seriously?! ABC partnered with right wing toilet paper for their news?

Enough said. I don't care for Channel 4 in Seattle anyway, they've sucked for years, and this is yet another reason not to stop in this channel.

RVN VET

(492 posts)
15. Ouch! The Moony News is their partner?
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 10:46 PM
Oct 2013

And they advertise the fact? Sounds like a great channel to avoid.

TriplD

(176 posts)
8. ABC still employs the guy who fabricated a White House Bengazi email?
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 09:36 PM
Oct 2013

Looks like they issued a retraction, but then didn't correct Karl's fabricated quote:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/

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Editor’s Note: There were differences between ABC News’ original reporting on an email by Ben Rhodes, below, and the actual wording of that email which have now been corrected. ABC News should have been more precise in its sourcing of those quotes, attributing them to handwritten copies of the emails taken by a Congressional source. We regret that error. The remainder of the report stands as accurate.

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In an email dated 9/14/12 at 9:34 p.m. — three days after the attack and two days before Ambassador Rice appeared on the Sunday shows – Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes wrote an email saying the State Department’s concerns needed to be addressed.

“We must make sure that the talking points reflect all agency equities, including those of the State Department, and we don’t want to undermine the FBI investigation. We thus will work through the talking points tomorrow morning at the Deputies Committee meeting.”



But CNN obtained the actual email:

“All –

“Sorry to be late to this discussion. We need to resolve this in a way that respects all of the relevant equities, particularly the investigation.

“There is a ton of wrong information getting out into the public domain from Congress and people who are not particularly informed. Insofar as we have firmed up assessments that don’t compromise intel or the investigation, we need to have the capability to correct the record, as there are significant policy and messaging ramifications that would flow from a hardened mis-impression.

“We can take this up tomorrow morning at deputies.”


http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/14/cnn-exclusive-white-house-email-contradicts-benghazi-leaks/


Shame on ABC for employing this hack and misleading their readers with a fake "correction".

question everything

(47,544 posts)
10. Would have been interesting to hear what Karl would have said
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 09:46 PM
Oct 2013

Bonner did say.

There is nothing wrong, otherwise, for reporters who know what they are talking about to correct others.

Remember Candy Crawly of CNN who corrected Romney, saying that Obama did describe the Benghazi attack as an act of terror?



 
11. He rudely interrupted Jay when he was addressing a question from Reuters.
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 09:48 PM
Oct 2013

The asshole should have waited his turn.

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