Timothy Dolan urges Catholics to become more politically active

[Dawson Leery]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/nyregion/cardinal-timothy-m-dolan-urges-catholics-to-become-more-politically-active.html

http://billingsgazette.com/news/opinion/mailbag/catholic-bishops-wrong-to-intervene/article_44161201-e4a3-5b30-b87a-920076567a17.html

The Catholic Bishops endorsed the discriminatory Blunt Amendment
http://floridaindependent.com/47139/catholic-bishops-rights-of-conscience-act

"Catholic bishops wrong to intervene"
http://billingsgazette.com/news/opinion/mailbag/catholic-bishops-wrong-to-intervene/article_44161201-e4a3-5b30-b87a-920076567a17.html

[onehandle]

1. Way ahead of you. nt

[benld74]

2. I HAVE been Bishop, I AM A DEMOCRAT!!!!!!

[TheMastersNemesis]

3. Time To Tax Churches Now

Now that that churches are determined to make public policy based on religion they should pay full and fair taxes. They are nothing but a bunch of leeches. They use the commons that unbelievers pay for. My tax dollars should not go to support churches I do not believe in. All faith based money should be returned and future money should be shut off.

They are now out of bounds and the secular community should counter attack based on the idea that we have a right to be free from religion.

[Neue Regel]

10. Unfortunately...

Catholics (and people of other faiths) are United States citizens, and as such they have just as much of a right to participate in the political process as you or I do.


Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan told Roman Catholics...they needed to make their voices heard more clearly in the political sphere.

Speaking at a diocesan convocation on public policy here, Cardinal Dolan, who is the archbishop of New York and president of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, said, “We are called to be very active, very informed and very involved in politics.”

Dolan didn't say the Catholc Church needs to be more politically active, he said Catholics need to be more politically active. Big difference.

[Gman]

4. As a Catholic, this guy is getting on my last nerve

And I'm going to have a hard time keeping my mouth shut... again.

[47of74]

18. The church is losing me

I had been a Catholic pretty much my entire life. 36 1/2 years. Over the past few years I've struggled with whether or not I wanted to stay in the church. I struggled because the church I went to was pretty nice, and the pastor wasn't one of those a noun, a verb, and abortion types. But the actions of the leadership over the past month have turned my stomach and gave me the push I needed to look elsewhere for my spiritual needs. For the first time two weeks ago I went to a Episcopal service. I went to another one today. I'll probably keep going because I feel like I'm not being told to check my brain at the door.

[Gman]

20. I will never leave the Church under any circumstances

because it's not Dolan's church or any of the others as much as they'd like everyone to think that. It only belongs to one Person, the One that started it. The biggest point I can make is that the men who run the church are just there. They are NOT the church even though it appears that way outwardly. They are not the church any more than politicians are the country. But at least it's easier to get rid of politicians. I live in Texas and have all my life. If I took to heart what Rick Perry and his idiots says Texas is I'd want to quit too. The fact is there were many great men before Perry that stood for everything Perry is against. That's the real Texas. And the real Church is nothing like Dolan et al want to make it out to be. And I'll argue with any of them given a chance. They can't kick me out of the church and I'm not leaving any more than Perry can kick me out of Texas and I'm not leaving here either.

[HockeyMom]

5. NYS has required insurance to cover contraceptives for years

So why is Dolan complaining NOW? This sounds very much to me that the Catholic Church wants to impose their religious views on EVERYONE, even when their organizations are exempt. It is very much the same as the gay marriage issue. They don't have to marry gays any more than they have to marry divroced people. Yet Dolan is still fighting marriage equality in NY.

If the Catholic Church wants to get into the political arena and force THEIR views on the public at large, TAX THEM.

[DLC_equals_GOP]

6. The Romans had the right idea back in the day

damn shame they stopped feeding them to the lions.

[mysuzuki2]

7. Believe it or not, Dolan is considered by some to have a chance

to become pope when Gruppenfuhrer Benedict dies.

[mmonk]

8. The question in my mind currently is can one ask if the Church is currently

a rightwing Republican political organization? I ask this as a Catholic. I remember sometime around the election of GW Bush's second term, a Catholic magazine I had (probably Columbia from the Knights of Columbus) that had an exerpt from the author of the book "The Party of Death: The Democrats, the Media, the Courts, and the Disregard for Human Life". At the time, I was working to get John Kerry, a Catholic by the way, elected to stop the Bush wars and torture, etc.. That is around the time I just quit going to church. I still volunteer at Catholic Parish Outreach to help the poor but just couldn't keep going to church. I feel bad because my wife wants things back to the way they used to be including the family going to church on Sundays. But to be honest, I see no reason to be put in an angry mood for the rest of the day on Sundays. But I think the question is a valid question.

[Dawson Leery]

9. The head of the "Knights of Columbus", Carl Anderson was a Reagan advisor

http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/knight-of-columbus-carl-anderson-on-the-catholic-vote/

[mmonk]

12. Thanks for that.

I see he equates Bishops telling insurance companies to deny contraceptive to non Catholics as religious liberty.

[mainer]

11. If Catholic hospitals want to push their religion on employees and patients

then the government should stop sending them Medicare and Medicaid payments, because those are funded by taxpayers who aren't even Catholic.

[Dawson Leery]

13. +1

[Dokkie]

15. Do you really want to go there?

then catholic would demand that since they cannot use their medicare benefits with catholic churches then they would stop paying into Medicare. Having fantasies of destroying medicare? try putting it out of your mind now

[Raine]

16. I guess gone forever are the days of priests like the Berrigan brothers

sad.

[FLAprogressive]

17. he's a spokesperson for an organized pedophilia ring...

[Avalux]

19. Be careful what you wish for Cardinal. n/t