Scottish Cardinal slams UK government plans to redefine marriage to include same-sex couples

[steve2470]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/scottish-cardinal-slams-uk-government-plans-to-redefine-marriage-to-include-same-sex-couples/2012/03/04/gIQAFmBJqR_story.html

LONDON — The head of the Catholic Church in Scotland has fiercely attacked the British government’s plans to allow gay marriage, calling the proposals “madness.”

In an article for the Sunday Telegraph newspaper, Scottish Roman Catholic Cardinal Keith O’Brien accuses the coalition government of trying to “redefine reality.”

He says the proposals to allow same-sex unions are “madness,” calling the idea “a grotesque subversion of a universally accepted human right.”

Prime Minister David Cameron has openly advocated gay marriage. Later this month, the equalities minister will launch a consultation on how to change the legal definition of marriage to include same-sex couples.

[hobbit709]

2. Since marriage and divorce are CIVIL matters, religion needs to STFU.

[MichaelMcGuire]

3. The Cardinal is out of whack with numinous groups and polls.

I'm unfamiliar with what the coalition proposals are in any detail. But if they are like the current ones currently under review in Scotland, they should be welcomed.

it was under consultation introduced by the SNP in Scotland's parliament and is currently being analysed (http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Justice/law/17867/samesex). Its supported by (with the exception of a few), most members, including the current government (http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2011/09/05153328/1) and opposition parties (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-16816512). Catholic Church and others have already been given insurances that "no religious body or its celebrants should be required to carry out same sex marriages or civil partnership ceremonies" (against their will) Leaving other religious bodies or celebrants able to carry out same sex marriages as they wish and no longer prohibited from doing so.

We've heard all this nonsense before from the likes of the Cardinal, it looks like their needing to be dragged kicking and screaming into this day and age. I hope that his nonsense doesn't deter the proposals from becoming law in England and Wales. Just as I hope it doesn't deter the Scottish government in Scotland.

[DLC_equals_GOP]

4. Attention Cardinal Pederast

Nobody is forcing your or any other church to do dick.

marry or don't marry whom you want, Hate who you want too.

You will always be able to hide behind your religion.

[xchrom]

5. The Good Cardinal can piss up a rope. Nt

[alp227]

6. Keith O'Brien=the British Rick Santorum?

Downing Street dismissed O'Brien: Cardinal Keith O'Brien's gay marriage comments decried as scaremongering (The Guardian)