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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:32 AM Oct 2013

John McCain: "Republicans have to understand we have lost this battle,... "


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“It’s very, very serious,” warned Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona. “Republicans have to understand we have lost this battle, as I predicted weeks ago, that we would not be able to win because we were demanding something that was not achievable.”

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Full article here: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/16/us/politics/congress-budget-debate.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1381904976-PzffqF23irY7YxEP2dJFBQ


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John McCain: "Republicans have to understand we have lost this battle,... " (Original Post) Tx4obama Oct 2013 OP
And someone needs to educate McCain on the fact that kentauros Oct 2013 #1
In 2014, they are going to discover just what they lost! Coyotl Oct 2013 #2
The problem though, kentauros Oct 2013 #3
They won't be calling defeat in the 2014 elections a win! Coyotl Oct 2013 #4
They haven't understood they lost in 2012.. what's it Cha Oct 2013 #7
They still think Romney will win Ohio, B Calm Oct 2013 #8
Sorest Losers in the history of the Cha Oct 2013 #9
HAHAHAHAH JI7 Oct 2013 #14
McCain misses the point, as usual. The problem isn't that it's 'unachievable.' It's immoral. freshwest Oct 2013 #5
Do you think that this man understands that he is responsible Skidmore Oct 2013 #6
Tx4obama Diclotican Oct 2013 #10
How would one go about understanding anything... Hubert Flottz Oct 2013 #11
What Stupid Battle gussmith Oct 2013 #12
The people behind this half-assed, lame political coup, King_Klonopin Oct 2013 #13

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
1. And someone needs to educate McCain on the fact that
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:35 AM
Oct 2013

in order for TeaPublicans to "understand" anything, they would first need a brain.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
3. The problem though,
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:38 AM
Oct 2013

is that they are so ingrained in the idea that they can't lose, or that they cannot ever admit to losing, that they will call even a failure a win!

Cha

(297,290 posts)
7. They haven't understood they lost in 2012.. what's it
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 06:10 AM
Oct 2013

gonna take?

One year away.. it will be on Fire around here!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. McCain misses the point, as usual. The problem isn't that it's 'unachievable.' It's immoral.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 05:20 AM
Oct 2013
From the link:

...Democrats latched on to a provision in the House proposals that would have forbidden the Treasury to juggle government accounts — so-called extraordinary measures — to meet obligations beyond a debt-ceiling deadline...

The news came as the Treasury Department said it had only about $35 billion in cash on hand. It expects to run out of “extraordinary measures” to keep on paying all of the government’s bills on Thursday, at which point outgoing payments might exceed that cash, plus any revenues, on any day going forward.

As the United States nears default, investors have demanded more compensation for lending to the government, with yields on short-term debt spiking to their highest levels in years.

Fitch warned that Congress has not “raised the federal debt ceiling in a timely manner.” It said that it “continues to believe that the debt ceiling will be raised soon,” but that “political brinkmanship and reduced financing flexibility could increase the risk of a U.S. default.”


Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
6. Do you think that this man understands that he is responsible
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 05:24 AM
Oct 2013

for unleashing these people on the nation? By elevating Palin, he gave them a platform and access to power.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
10. Tx4obama
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:21 PM
Oct 2013

Tx4obama

The problem is that enough republicans in Congress believe they can do it - and win against the president and the Senate.. They believe that if they can default the US, they can in fact win this battle against the horrible ACA, and many of the other issues they might have - even if it means the US are going off the cliff...

And many of them do also believe in "the end of times" so if the world was going down the tube - economical speaking - then so much better... Then they can with their buddies "doomsday preppers" can survive in the aftermath of a horrible economical collapse in the US...

Diclotican

 

gussmith

(280 posts)
12. What Stupid Battle
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 08:15 PM
Oct 2013

is McCain talking about? The deadlines for congressional actions came due and the despotic Republicans rebelled at doing their job. What battle is McCain talking about? The time for battle came when you took the job senator and the time came when you had to do the work involved. Any rebellion should have been NOT to spend the money in the first place.

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
13. The people behind this half-assed, lame political coup,
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:38 AM
Oct 2013

specifically the grandiose St. Teddy Cruz (the pied piper) and the 50 or so Tea Heads (rats)
in the House, achieved all but two of their intended goals:


1) To look and sound like real tough guys, and to feed that empty self-delusion.

2) To compete for the title of "Best Obama Hater".

3) To give their supporters what they want: an outlet for venting their pseudo-lynch-mob venom.

4) To self-promote through pure demagoguery; to agitate and provoke the masses of morons for personal gain.

5) To prevent being "primaried" by another Tea Head.

6) To create an illusion that they are the true champion of the little guys.

7) To use this contrived stalemate to foment chaos and ill will, to point the fingers of blame at Obama,
and to pile on more of their personal, racist bullshit (e.g. "drop the Quran&quot

8) To be a permanent stumbling block to the President and his party.


The goals they failed to achieve was 1) to saddle Obama with the blame for creating this unnecessary mess,
and 2) to exact a ransom (long list of demands) by taking our democratic process hostage. These failures are
what will matter most in the end. They could not pull off their cheap, political trick. We (who are honest) know
which party was behaving like assholes and causing trouble for everyone. Blowhards, Posers and Traitors.



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