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WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:07 PM Oct 2013

Rust never sleeps.

So the House will vote, and 17 GOP votes will be needed, so no, this isn't done yet.

But let's say for the sake of argument that those 17 House Republicans do vote with the Democrats, and the bill passes, and the president signs it. The government is only open until January, the debt limit is pushed only until February, and like as not we will wind up doing some version of this again.

(FYI, Reid wanted the shorter time, because if these deals were extended any later, the sequester would get locked in for another fiscal year, and he wants a chance to take a hack at it from a position of strength in the upcoming budget talks, so there is method to the madness after all)

So the House will vote, and just maybe this crisis will be put aside for a few months.

There is still the Trans-Pacific Partnership, plus Chained CPI and Medicare means testing (both of which Obama floated not long ago, which will make an appearance in the budget debate, mark my words), plus the Keystone XL pipeline, plus the ongoing voter restriction efforts, plus the ongoing war on women, plus the all-important 2014 midterm elections, plus, and plus, and plus, and plus.

Take this to heart, friends and neighbors: rust never sleeps, and there is never, ever, ever any rest for the weary.

If we get past this thing tonight, have a drink on me. Close your eyes and take a deep breath. Get a good night's sleep.

We are right back to it tomorrow.

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Rust never sleeps. (Original Post) WilliamPitt Oct 2013 OP
What? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #1
We won plenty WilliamPitt Oct 2013 #2
Are we making progress? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #5
After this tea party infused debacle, Republicans won't be grabbing that hot stove any time soon. Zen Democrat Oct 2013 #3
yup. It is a victory but a shallow one. Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #4
Oh, I opened this up expecting to see the Neil Young Album. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #6
Look out, Mama, there's a white boat comin' up the river nolabels Oct 2013 #12
Neil Young-Cortez the Killer Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #18
A KEY fact here is "extraordinary measures" Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #7
Nice moderate viewpoint RobertEarl Oct 2013 #13
You underestimate the magnitude of what just happened Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #15
Yes, the GOP won't be able to pull this kind of "Sky will fall" stunt again. nt MADem Oct 2013 #17
I'm getting really close to my snapping point. Like steel, evidently the sinkingfeeling Oct 2013 #8
Sometimes the sun and rain wipe away the rust. randome Oct 2013 #9
Well said. Thank you WillPitt. Scuba Oct 2013 #10
What time is the vote? Anyone, anyone, Bueller? nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #11
I'm betting the republicans won't want to stick their hands in this particular bear trap... mike_c Oct 2013 #14
RW Talk Radio is SCREAMING at the Republicans for caving. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #20
Let them rant, it's great entertainment. DinahMoeHum Oct 2013 #23
Most of the actual TALKERS know it's all a show. The thing that busts me up are their callers.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #27
One advantage fadedrose Oct 2013 #16
The next step is to inform America this could end for good if Boner would pass a budget. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #19
Republicans target has changed munster69 Oct 2013 #21
Once people get their mandatory insurance, the GOP would look like real dicks for trying to take it Erose999 Oct 2013 #22
Now is the time for Obama to make an important randr Oct 2013 #24
WD-40 JaneyVee Oct 2013 #25
Well, sometimes... pintobean Oct 2013 #26
at least we're not singing onethatcares Oct 2013 #28
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
1. What?
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:09 PM
Oct 2013

You saying we didn't win a fucking thing? Just stayed a float for a few more days?

How can you be so negative?

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
5. Are we making progress?
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:14 PM
Oct 2013

Or just bailing water?

Glad to see you have some concept of the reality. Maybe you can influence some here to become more grounded? Too many, it seems to me, think that staying afloat against this latest wave is a victory over the ocean. They are deluded.

Zen Democrat

(5,901 posts)
3. After this tea party infused debacle, Republicans won't be grabbing that hot stove any time soon.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:09 PM
Oct 2013

If they do, it will only benefit Democrats in the mid-terms. The tea party brand is eroding.

 

Ranchemp.

(1,991 posts)
18. Neil Young-Cortez the Killer
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 04:30 PM
Oct 2013

He came dancing across the water
With his galleons and guns
Looking for the new world
In that palace in the sun

http://www.metrolyrics.com/cortez-the-killer-lyrics-neil-young.html

Great Album, actually got to see him doing the Rust Never Sleeps tour back in '79. Great concert, what I remember of it, was really stoned at the time.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
7. A KEY fact here is "extraordinary measures"
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:15 PM
Oct 2013

Those were retained by the treasury. The leverage of timing is still with the president, and the executive can keep the government solvent up through summer, possibly. This would put a renewed debt limit agreement uncomfortably close to midterms.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
13. Nice moderate viewpoint
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:42 PM
Oct 2013

We can hang on!! It's not over yet!! We aren't dead!!

Instead of outright claiming ENOUGH bullshit from the teabaggers, you take the view that they can still destroy us.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
15. You underestimate the magnitude of what just happened
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:46 PM
Oct 2013

BTW, Obamacare continues forward. Biggest expansion of health care coverage since Medicare. That was tea Party's Waterloo re: stopping/delaying/altering Obamacare.

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
8. I'm getting really close to my snapping point. Like steel, evidently the
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:16 PM
Oct 2013

rust will cause a massive failure.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
9. Sometimes the sun and rain wipe away the rust.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:16 PM
Oct 2013

We didn't 'win' anything. But the GOP certainly lost something.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
14. I'm betting the republicans won't want to stick their hands in this particular bear trap...
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:45 PM
Oct 2013

...again any time soon.

DinahMoeHum

(21,794 posts)
23. Let them rant, it's great entertainment.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 04:56 PM
Oct 2013

Hopefully, one or two will drop from a heart attack, stroke, or apoplexy tonight.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
27. Most of the actual TALKERS know it's all a show. The thing that busts me up are their callers....
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 06:27 PM
Oct 2013

Those clowns are on the verge of blowing their brains out on the air.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
16. One advantage
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:48 PM
Oct 2013

is that the ACA will be on its feet by then. The website and insurance companies will have their stuff fixed, and if it goes as planned, Americans will not tolerate the teaparty sticking its nose where it doesn't belong.

That pipeline is what I think they want most and first.

Although Cruz and friends are undeniably and sincerely dedicated to the overthrow of the government, I betcha the people funding them aren't, and are just using them to get what they want.

They want the pipeline, TPP, and all the things you mentioned, and will rid themselves of Cruz et al. when they're done with them. They fear Cruz too because he's crazy, not merely greedy like them.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
19. The next step is to inform America this could end for good if Boner would pass a budget.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 04:40 PM
Oct 2013

Last edited Wed Oct 16, 2013, 06:28 PM - Edit history (1)

 

munster69

(107 posts)
21. Republicans target has changed
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 04:50 PM
Oct 2013

They are no longer trying to destroy Obama, they now want to destroy his premier legislation, Obamacare and they will be back for more.

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
22. Once people get their mandatory insurance, the GOP would look like real dicks for trying to take it
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 04:51 PM
Oct 2013

away.

randr

(12,412 posts)
24. Now is the time for Obama to make an important
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 05:03 PM
Oct 2013

concession of sorts with moderate Republicans. Together they could put a leash on the teagaggers.

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