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(34,589 posts)
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 06:17 PM Oct 2013

Still a little confused here...

When it turned out that someone at the IRS thought groups with "Tea Party" in their names might possibly be politically oriented, the new head of the IRS who had nothing to do with it had be fired immediately. We needed action immediately, dammit!

But when Gen. Alexander allows our most sensitive national secrets to be stolen en masse, ... no heads roll. When the computer systems effort to support ACA are a cluster#%^* of a staggering scale... people get overtime.

If I didn't know better, I'd say we were pandering to the Tea Party. And if we were, i'd be pretty irritated.

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Still a little confused here... (Original Post) MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 OP
Heck of a Job, Clappy!!!! bvar22 Oct 2013 #1
And why is Clapy still on the street?nt MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #9
NSA is way cooler than the IRS ... GeorgeGist Oct 2013 #2
Pandering to the Tea Party? Rex Oct 2013 #3
That's an Interesting Question you put out there.... KoKo Oct 2013 #4
All We NEED TO KNOW! KoKo Oct 2013 #5
Priorities. nt OnyxCollie Oct 2013 #6
Well you just don't understand how it works. zeemike Oct 2013 #7
The media drives the narrative. joshcryer Oct 2013 #8


(84,711 posts)
4. That's an Interesting Question you put out there....
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 08:56 PM
Oct 2013

I've wondered about that myself....

Seems to be a bit of "WTF" going on here? as to how our Democracy is working these days.

But...never mind. Excuse me for ASKING. I really know so little about politics that I leave it up to the Elected Representatives to "walk me through it all" to the next election where I know which boxes to "X."



(18,998 posts)
7. Well you just don't understand how it works.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 09:11 PM
Oct 2013

He os a general in the military...and that is just the same as a CEO in the Military Industrial Complex....and you don't fire CEOs when they fuck up...you promote them and give them a big bonus.
The IRS is the enemy of the MIC and firing them is a sport.

I hope that clears it up for you Manny.


(62,297 posts)
8. The media drives the narrative.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 09:15 PM
Oct 2013

If the media would talk up the NSA problems then it'd be more of an issue. I think, in fact, the trickle method used to release the NSA information has made it a slow burn, and all the outrage that was there initially faded away. It was the worst way to go about it, we saw that with Wikileaks and Cablegate which only marginally changed the way the US operates foreign-policy wise (few ambassadors were shut down, the US didn't get shunned, etc). I personally think, just a gut feeling, that the NSA release was a PSYOPS. Many will look at me and say that's stupid, but the effect, the impact, of the NSA release is marginal at best. I think the Cables had a more wide reaching effect (resulting in the Arab Spring).

Now, as far as technical problems with the website, I think these days people are far more forgiving of that sort of thing. The media, is, in fact, trying to make an issue out of it where there isn't one. Yes, they paid the wrong people to do something and they fucked it up, so what, they got paid therefore they must complete the job. If anything they'll earn what they were paid as opposed to getting paid a lot of money and hiring a few people to do the job now they'll have to take that money and actually hire professionals and lots more people to do the job.

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