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Sarah Palin poses for pic, with her gun pointing at her own head. (Original Post) riqster Oct 2013 OP
Fortunately for the Quitter no vital organs are involved. lpbk2713 Oct 2013 #1
DUzy! truebluegreen Oct 2013 #23
Darn. Turbineguy Oct 2013 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Oct 2013 #34
That's the other classic Palin photo-op. caseymoz Oct 2013 #43
all of her 'hunting' trips and events are staged. all of them. roguevalley Oct 2013 #57
Damned, that was good. nt bluestate10 Oct 2013 #86
"I didn't know the gun was loaded!!" DonViejo Oct 2013 #2
Thanks! riqster Oct 2013 #5
The sad part is, someone shot a bear just so that she could pose with it. Dash87 Oct 2013 #9
... and flash her dopey smile. lpbk2713 Oct 2013 #22
LMAO!! Control-Z Oct 2013 #75
Something left over from my Navy days. lpbk2713 Oct 2013 #76
What makes you think she didn't? Fumesucker Oct 2013 #78
Point. riqster Oct 2013 #83
Fucking stupid bitch, I hope a pissed off bear follows her home .... Myrina Oct 2013 #13
god how I hate these kind of pics. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #26
Totally agree.. yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #46
We'll the pink in the cammy is precious nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #33
What's with all the weird-ass digital fuzz under the bear's chin? Where it says "PieRS"? Brickbat Oct 2013 #38
Here's the background. riqster Oct 2013 #42
I really hate this woman warrior1 Oct 2013 #3
Blunt & Cranky rec... SidDithers Oct 2013 #4
A casual hunter who the image-makers tried to pawn off as an expert huntsman. blm Oct 2013 #6
What it tells me is she jumped in for a photo op woodsprite Oct 2013 #7
She's a fraud. Nothing about her is genuine. Dash87 Oct 2013 #8
It wouldn't hit anything passing from one ear to the other, anyway ... Myrina Oct 2013 #10
Hope it's empty. Octafish Oct 2013 #11
At least the bolt is open so you know there's no round in the chamber... oh, wait. Scuba Oct 2013 #12
Too bad Sgt. Major Eby didn't teach her gun safety. riqster Oct 2013 #17
surely I can't be the only person to notice that the gun is not pointed at her head cali Oct 2013 #14
Oh foo, don't spoil the fun ...... oldhippie Oct 2013 #16
well, you know me. I'm not partial to made up stuff cali Oct 2013 #19
Even if that is the case you treat a weapon as though it was loaded all the time... truebrit71 Oct 2013 #28
I hate to apply logic to perfectly good disparagement of La Palinette cali Oct 2013 #53
cali, I did a riflery option as a phys. ed. class when I was back in school, bullwinkle428 Oct 2013 #58
Gun Safety Rule Number One. Always treat EVERY gun as though it is loaded. truebrit71 Oct 2013 #59
As our instructor told us, "I can't tell you how many times people have bullwinkle428 Oct 2013 #79
That's how accidents happen, "the rifle is unloaded and safe.".... madmom Oct 2013 #30
There's no such thing as an "unloaded and safe" rifle. Dash87 Oct 2013 #80
You know, you're right. On the other hand if she isn't left handed......... wandy Oct 2013 #20
I'm not convinced that it's pointed at her elbow either cali Oct 2013 #21
The gun is not pointed at her at all. Jenoch Oct 2013 #85
I was thinking the same thing. ZomBoy Oct 2013 #32
Really, that is what you got from this? Well.... Logical Oct 2013 #39
You never point a gun at anyone, even in their general direction. DefenseLawyer Oct 2013 #48
My guess is that it is the power of wishful thinking at play here. L0oniX Oct 2013 #50
You're wrong, it's pointing to the right rear of her head. greyl Oct 2013 #64
a gun barrel should never point anywhere close to the direction of a person ever. IronLionZion Oct 2013 #74
It's a gun. It's plenty close enough to be considered pointing at her head. gulliver Oct 2013 #77
Doesn't matter - it's in an unsafe, careless position. Dash87 Oct 2013 #81
It's like she doesn't even know it's bad form to pose with something you haven't killed. Brickbat Oct 2013 #15
How can anyone not spot what a phony she is? Mikeystyle Oct 2013 #18
Poor bear... calimary Oct 2013 #24
OH NOES!!11! The half-governor shot Pooh Bear?? lpbk2713 Oct 2013 #35
A gun pointing at her foot would be a more apt metaphor. n/t Orsino Oct 2013 #25
Don't see a helicopter in the shot, therefore not her kill. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #27
No brain, no pain. n/t HillWilliam Oct 2013 #31
This is performance art. She is depicting today's GOP BlueStreak Oct 2013 #36
If only one of those bears or wolves her handlers shoot for her to pose with would wake up during Erose999 Oct 2013 #37
she really is stupid heaven05 Oct 2013 #40
She and Cheney should go on a hunting trip together. nt adirondacker Oct 2013 #41
'She' and Cheney should go on a hunting trip together. srican69 Oct 2013 #54
OK you gone to far their too make you're point. adirondacker Oct 2013 #63
+1000 noiretextatique Oct 2013 #73
One of these things is firing blanks Blue Owl Oct 2013 #44
Lets all give John Mcain a big thank you for this nimrod,,,,, benld74 Oct 2013 #45
The perfect GOP candidate for POTUS. L0oniX Oct 2013 #47
Actually, if it where to discharge by accident it would blow off her right arm. Rex Oct 2013 #49
OK---so it may miss her head by just a bit... trumad Oct 2013 #52
Might rip off the right side of her face too, depends on how the rifle jumps Rex Oct 2013 #55
Assuming the gun doesn't move when it's discharged... berni_mccoy Oct 2013 #61
True it could well jump to the right and erase her head. Rex Oct 2013 #62
I seriously doubt she has ever even held a gun for anything Mr.Bill Oct 2013 #51
+1 Rex Oct 2013 #56
I can only imagine tomm2thumbs Oct 2013 #60
...derp... progressoid Oct 2013 #70
Brain bleach, Stat!!!! riqster Oct 2013 #71
talk about half-cocked... tomm2thumbs Oct 2013 #72
I'm not gonna say what I am thinking gopiscrap Oct 2013 #65
Maybe at her elbow, not pointed at her head madville Oct 2013 #66
Not according to my firearms training. riqster Oct 2013 #67
Ever been to a gun show or store? madville Oct 2013 #68
At a gun show or store, it is rare to see a just-fired weapon laying casually aimed at a shooter riqster Oct 2013 #69
Boink Scurrilous Oct 2013 #82
And a very happy Boinkday to you, too. riqster Oct 2013 #84

Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #1)

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
43. That's the other classic Palin photo-op.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:55 PM
Oct 2013

I swear, that one was some Monty Python bit that should have been made, the minister being interviewed while fowl are slaughtered in the background. Somehow, it's the perfect metaphor for our government now.

I remember the RWers trying to spin that one, too. Like, "What? Nothing wrong with that scene. Slaughtering turkey's isn't wrong. Interviews aren't wrong. So what's wrong?"

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
2. "I didn't know the gun was loaded!!"
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 11:06 AM
Oct 2013

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Control-Z

(15,683 posts)
75. LMAO!!
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 03:32 AM
Oct 2013

I don't know if you just made that up or if it's been around, but it's hysterical. I can just visualize her doing that with drool running off her idiotic smile.

blm

(113,286 posts)
6. A casual hunter who the image-makers tried to pawn off as an expert huntsman.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 11:19 AM
Oct 2013

Imagery. The corporate media swallowed it whole.

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
8. She's a fraud. Nothing about her is genuine.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 11:36 AM
Oct 2013

Her image is corporate bull crap designed to appeal to the American people, but they even failed at that.

No real hunter would make a mistake like that. That's not her gun, and this is such an obvious canned photo-op.

It's time to stop pretending that she's anything other than an entitled tool that knows as much about nature as I know about building a spaceship.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
10. It wouldn't hit anything passing from one ear to the other, anyway ...
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 11:39 AM
Oct 2013

.... as evidenced by taking part in a ridiculously stupid PR stunt that could (and has) gotten kids killed.


"Here, hold my beer and watch this!" OMFG.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
11. Hope it's empty.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 11:39 AM
Oct 2013

The gun, that is.

Her head, who knows what's in there? What comes out is sure scary.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
12. At least the bolt is open so you know there's no round in the chamber... oh, wait.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 11:40 AM
Oct 2013

A lesson on unsafe gun handling.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
17. Too bad Sgt. Major Eby didn't teach her gun safety.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 11:52 AM
Oct 2013

He taught our JROTC class, on M-14's. That man tolerated NO errors, and my triceps still ache when I remember the one time I fucked up. 250 push-ups, I believe it was. For not polishing the shells before loading a magazine.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
14. surely I can't be the only person to notice that the gun is not pointed at her head
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 11:42 AM
Oct 2013

though I appear to be the only person in this thread pointing it out.

Palin is an idiot. the picture is repulsive. The gun is not pointed at her head.

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
16. Oh foo, don't spoil the fun ......
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 11:51 AM
Oct 2013

Let the folks enjoy their rants.

I also notice the scope covers are back on the scope. This photo was probably some time after the "shoot" and the rifle is unloaded and safe.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
28. Even if that is the case you treat a weapon as though it was loaded all the time...
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:20 PM
Oct 2013

...and what this vacuous moron is doing is incredibly stupid...even for her...

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
53. I hate to apply logic to perfectly good disparagement of La Palinette
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:23 PM
Oct 2013

I adore bashing her, but how do you know that the rifle is loaded? someone downthread noted the scope cover is on. It's possible that the gun is also unloaded.

bullwinkle428

(20,634 posts)
58. cali, I did a riflery option as a phys. ed. class when I was back in school,
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:47 PM
Oct 2013

and literally the very first thing that the instructor taught us was to ASSUME EVERY GUN IS LOADED when it came to handling them - anywhere, anytime.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
59. Gun Safety Rule Number One. Always treat EVERY gun as though it is loaded.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:47 PM
Oct 2013

Even when scope covers are on. You never EVER point it at someone, always have it facing down range, that way, loaded or not, there is no chance of an accident.

bullwinkle428

(20,634 posts)
79. As our instructor told us, "I can't tell you how many times people have
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 09:05 AM
Oct 2013

been shot by 'unloaded' guns!"

This was literally 30 years ago when I took this class, and those words remain with me to this day.

madmom

(9,681 posts)
30. That's how accidents happen, "the rifle is unloaded and safe."....
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:23 PM
Oct 2013

the gun is NEVER safe to point at (or even in the vicinity of)something you don't want to shoot!

wandy

(3,539 posts)
20. You know, you're right. On the other hand if she isn't left handed.........
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 11:57 AM
Oct 2013

she's looking to be. And that would be a pity as her right elbow is probably smarter than her head.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
21. I'm not convinced that it's pointed at her elbow either
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:01 PM
Oct 2013

photographs can really screw perspective.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
85. The gun is not pointed at her at all.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 11:21 AM
Oct 2013

Her right elbow is above the trajectory of any bullet fired from that rifle in that position. That being said, if she had to pose for that photo, having the rifle more clearly pointed in a safe direction would have been better.

I wonder if she really shot the bear or not.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
39. Really, that is what you got from this? Well....
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:34 PM
Oct 2013

I guess you think she is frozen in time and not moving?

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
48. You never point a gun at anyone, even in their general direction.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:17 PM
Oct 2013

That's pretty basic gun safety. In fact, that's probably Rule 1 of gun safety. She's in a staged photo with her gun pointed back in her direction. I haven't held a gun in 20 years, but I think anyone who has held a gun knows that you just don't do that.

greyl

(22,990 posts)
64. You're wrong, it's pointing to the right rear of her head.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 02:53 PM
Oct 2013

Do you what you have to do to double check your claim in a more scientific manner.

IronLionZion

(45,905 posts)
74. a gun barrel should never point anywhere close to the direction of a person ever.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 08:01 PM
Oct 2013

There shouldn't be any doubt. That's basic gun safety.


gulliver

(13,249 posts)
77. It's a gun. It's plenty close enough to be considered pointing at her head.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:59 AM
Oct 2013

Palin is breathtakingly stupid. That photo shows her making a statistically significant effort to win a Darwin Award. And yes, it does show rank cluelessness about gun safety.

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
81. Doesn't matter - it's in an unsafe, careless position.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 09:28 AM
Oct 2013

I suspect it was just throw there for the photo shoot by someone who has no clue about gun safety. It's people like this that cause accidents.

A gun, loaded or unloaded, should never be remotely close to pointed at something that you don't want to destroy.

Mikeystyle

(208 posts)
18. How can anyone not spot what a phony she is?
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 11:54 AM
Oct 2013

she obviously knows even less about gun safety than I do

just like on her "reality" show where someone had to stand a moose up for her to shoot, load and hand her the rifle and even then she can't figure out how it works--- from a woman who claims to have done this many times

she should go hunting with Dick Cheney

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
27. Don't see a helicopter in the shot, therefore not her kill.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:20 PM
Oct 2013

Also, fuck her for having an animal killed for a stupid fucking photo op.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
36. This is performance art. She is depicting today's GOP
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:32 PM
Oct 2013

The mainstream republicans are represented by the bear. And she represents the teabaggers, and the gun represents the irony because the teabaggers are too stupid to avoid blowing their own brains out.

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
37. If only one of those bears or wolves her handlers shoot for her to pose with would wake up during
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:32 PM
Oct 2013

the photo op and just maul the motherfucking shit out of her. Idiots can't appreciate nature unless they're destroying it.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
47. The perfect GOP candidate for POTUS.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:15 PM
Oct 2013


Does it get any more stupid than this? Hey how about Batshit for a running mate?
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
49. Actually, if it where to discharge by accident it would blow off her right arm.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:18 PM
Oct 2013

A 270 at close range would mean she would be missing a limb and possibly the right side of her face. Goes to show what a total fake she is, just like the GOP pretends to be a political organization.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
52. OK---so it may miss her head by just a bit...
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:23 PM
Oct 2013

but anyone with gun safety knowledge knows that this is a big no no. The minute she stands up she's in line of sight for the rifle.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
55. Might rip off the right side of her face too, depends on how the rifle jumps
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:28 PM
Oct 2013

in a accidental discharge. I would think a 270 (or whatever similar caliber it is) at close range would do some huge damage, her face included. Just looks like the barrel is pointing straight at her elbow, which like you said even a rookie hunter would know never to point your weapon at somebody. Nor lay it down to where it can accidentally kill/maim you.

She was just so proud of her camera man for shooting the bear, that as she clamored to get the picture for herself the rifle became background - like the bear.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
62. True it could well jump to the right and erase her head.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:55 PM
Oct 2013

It is just so mindnumbingly stupid to have the barrel pointing in a human's direction, that I have to remember Sarah Palin is a GOP created persona. A D class actor at best.

I agree with some of the other posters, I bet someone else shot it.

Mr.Bill

(24,441 posts)
51. I seriously doubt she has ever even held a gun for anything
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:20 PM
Oct 2013

but photo ops. I wish Rachel Maddow would challenge her to a shooting competition. Most people don't know it, but Rachel is an NRA member, gun enthusiast and competitive shooter. What better person to expose Palin for the phony she is.

gopiscrap

(23,821 posts)
65. I'm not gonna say what I am thinking
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 03:03 PM
Oct 2013

because I would have a DU jury all over me...needless to say it refers hoping the gun works

madville

(7,413 posts)
66. Maybe at her elbow, not pointed at her head
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 03:46 PM
Oct 2013

The chances of that gun going off in that situation are basically zero. Yes, when one is handling a firearm, proper muzzle discipline is a must. When it is sitting by it's lonesome there is no danger.

Name an incident where a gun just actually "went off" on it's own? The only time I have ever seen it happen is in the military when a machine gun had fired hundreds of rounds quickly and "cooked" a chambered round off due to heat.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
67. Not according to my firearms training.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 03:55 PM
Oct 2013

Boy Scouts and Army. We were taught to never point a muzzle at anyone we might not wish to get shot. And not to leave a weapon lying about, pointing at people or property.

When people get relaxed, and say things like "basically no danger", that is when accidents happen.

madville

(7,413 posts)
68. Ever been to a gun show or store?
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:22 PM
Oct 2013

There are hundreds/thousands of firearms in display cases, hanging on walls and on tables pointing at people in every direction at any given moment. No one gives it a second thought because there is no danger if it is not being handled.

A hunting rifle is in a case laying flat in the trunk of someone's car. The muzzle is going to point at a bunch of people during this car ride. Would that be unsafe? I don't consider it to be because it can't be fired.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
69. At a gun show or store, it is rare to see a just-fired weapon laying casually aimed at a shooter
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:30 PM
Oct 2013

Those weapons are (mostly) stock for sale, in a controlled environment that does not involve live fire. This situation with Palin is quite different.

The situation I would use as a comparison would be a rifle range. Weapons are pointed in a specific direction when not being fired...because, yep, they have recently been fired.

People with casual attitudes about gun safety get people killed.

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