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Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:14 PM

 

Feinstein: "Totally Opposed" to spying on world leaders, wants "total review" of intel programs

Senate Intelligence Chair Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) said Monday that she is "totally opposed" to surveilling allied leaders, amid reports that the National Security Agency has been monitoring German Chancellor Angela Merkel and other U.S. allies.

The revelations require a "total review of intelligence programs," Feinstein said in a statement.

“Unlike NSA’s collection of phone records under a court order, it is clear to me that certain surveillance activities have been in effect for more than a decade and that the Senate Intelligence Committee was not satisfactorily informed," she said. "Therefore our oversight needs to be strengthened and increased."

Feinstein added that it was "a big problem" that President Obama was not aware of the surveillance. The administration has assured Feinstein that the surveillance would not continue, she said.

“Unless the United States is engaged in hostilities against a country or there is an emergency need for this type of surveillance, I do not believe the United States should be collecting phone calls or emails of friendly presidents and prime ministers. The president should be required to approve any collection of this sort."


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Reply Feinstein: "Totally Opposed" to spying on world leaders, wants "total review" of intel programs (Original post)
BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 OP
SamYeager Oct 2013 #1
BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #2
bemildred Oct 2013 #5
nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #3
TDale313 Oct 2013 #4
nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #6
Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #22
TDale313 Oct 2013 #23
DURHAM D Oct 2013 #7
AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #8
Rex Oct 2013 #9
geek tragedy Oct 2013 #10
Rex Oct 2013 #17
Mass Oct 2013 #11
mike_c Oct 2013 #12
Hekate Oct 2013 #13
sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #14
Rex Oct 2013 #18
sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #19
Rex Oct 2013 #20
Oilwellian Oct 2013 #24
fredamae Oct 2013 #15
Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #16
rhett o rick Oct 2013 #21
markpkessinger Oct 2013 #25
woo me with science Oct 2013 #26
kentuck Oct 2013 #27
GoneFishin Oct 2013 #28

Response to BluegrassStateBlues (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:16 PM

1. When you've lost Feinstein in Intel, Intel has been caught with their pants down n/t

 

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Response to SamYeager (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:17 PM

2. LOL, pretty much. Heads will roll now. nt

 

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Response to SamYeager (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:26 PM

5. Yep, that's the other shoe. nt

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Response to BluegrassStateBlues (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:18 PM

3. Feinstein....wow, just wow!

 

Now you know they over reached

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Response to BluegrassStateBlues (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:24 PM

4. Perhaps it finally occurred to her

That the NSA was likely spying on veryimportantpeople like, oh I don't know, Senators and Congresscritters and their spouses and not just us peons?

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Response to TDale313 (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:27 PM

6. You mean like Russ Tice alleged a few years ago?

 

Yup

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Response to TDale313 (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 08:48 PM

22. One would think after the NSA's phone tapping of Senators Frank Church and Howard Baker

in the late 60s and early 70s they would have known this.

There could no national security reason for doing this but for political black mail purposes.

This same will take place with the meta data collection of us peons.

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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #22)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 08:57 PM

23. Yeah, I have the sneaking suspicion...

That very little of this is about keeping us safe. It's about political power and it's about a national security apparatus that's making some people a hell of a lot of money.

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Response to BluegrassStateBlues (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:28 PM

7. They won't get full disclosure unless Poppy Bush gives the go ahead. nt

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Response to BluegrassStateBlues (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:29 PM

8. If her test for spying depends upon whether the US is engaged in hostilities, why have NSA funds

 

been authorized by her and her Senate Committee while knowing that the NSA would used such funds to spy upon us?

Does she and her fellow Senators on her Committee perceive that the United States is engaging in hostiliities towards us? Is this what justifies such expenditures?

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Response to BluegrassStateBlues (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:32 PM

9. I agree senator, no more Kabuki theater!

 

It doesn't make for good PR.

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Response to BluegrassStateBlues (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:33 PM

10. Holy crap, they managed to piss off DiFi! nt

 

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #10)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 05:23 PM

17. Not a smart move!

 

She will make them eat their lunch money, in front of her!

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Response to BluegrassStateBlues (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:36 PM

11. It is not OK to spy on the rich and powerful. The rest of us, who cares!

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Response to BluegrassStateBlues (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 05:00 PM

12. but she LOVES spying on the other 99%....

Just keep the NSA's mits of the ruling class.

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Response to BluegrassStateBlues (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 05:04 PM

13. This is BFEE all the way

as I said in another thread.

And yes, when DiFi wakes up, you've gone way too far. I believe the consolidated intelligence systems were set to run on autopilot (why Obama really didn't know -- his opinion and input were not deemed important, right?).

My other post. I'm really furious.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=633743

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Response to BluegrassStateBlues (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 05:10 PM

14. She's on the Intel Committee, is she saying they had no clue what the NSA was up to?

Did she talk to Clapper at all?

Ron Wyden was trying to warn them for several years. Why didn't she release him from the gag order they are all under? She never asked questions, just 'trusted' a Republican to do the right thing. Well he did do the 'Right' thing as could be expected.

Sounds more like it is the world wide repercussions she is trying to handle rather than the spying.

As for the 'allies' they were spying on, some of them deserve it for the way they treated truth tellers on behalf of the US. Now maybe they have learned that being puppets hoping for 'special relationships' with a Major Super Power wasn't such a good idea after all.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #14)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 05:25 PM

18. If not for ONE improv by a Congress critter, we would never know any of this!

 

THAT should be what worries voters...that the NSA was monitoring Congress and not the other way around!

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Response to Rex (Reply #18)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 05:30 PM

19. Good point, 'the NSA was monitoring Congress instead of the other way around'.

If that turns out to be true, that is a serious problem.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #19)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 05:32 PM

20. I think Congress got caught sleeping at the wheel.

 

If you give no oversight, then expect not to be informed about anything of real importance imo. We de-regulate the markets and D.C. and THIS is what we end up with. Kabuki theater in Congress.

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Response to Rex (Reply #20)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 09:15 PM

24. Grayson called them out

Congressional oversight of the NSA is a joke. I should know, I'm in Congress.

I've learned far more about government spying on citizens from the media than I have from official intelligence briefings.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/25/nsa-no-congress-oversight

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Response to BluegrassStateBlues (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 05:17 PM

15. My first thought

was this so epitomizes the depth of own their intentional ignorance...She Supports having the peasants monitored.

Why do we allow them to continue holding Us to a much higher standard of law than they are willing to hold themselves?

This arrogance is rampant in both parties.

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Response to BluegrassStateBlues (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 05:22 PM

16. Isn't that special. Spy on the peons

But leave Merkel alone.....

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Response to BluegrassStateBlues (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 08:43 PM

21. Diane Frankenstein is not a friend of the 99%. She is a Democrat but doesnt give a crap

 

if the NSA is spying on us. When she finds out they are spying on the elite, she has a fit. She needs to be primaried.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #21)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 09:21 PM

25. +1000! n/t

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #21)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 09:24 PM

26. +2000

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Response to BluegrassStateBlues (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 09:32 PM

27. The Hen Guarding the Fox Hole.

She can't make up her mind. They have no idea what the NSA is doing. A total bunch of incompetents.

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Response to BluegrassStateBlues (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 09:56 PM

28. I don't buy it. Thom Hartman has been speaking about her writing a bill with an Orwellian title

purporting to rein the spying in, while actually granting new spying powers in the fine print.

She has already shown who she is. Believe her.

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