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The Seditious Koch Bender: Why 54,000 People Are Calling for Arrests Over GOP Shutdown
Published On October 24, 2013 | By james |
by Marc Belisle - http://www.theeverlastinggopstoppers.com/2013/10/seditious-koch-bender-54000-people-calling-arrests-gop-shutdown/
Under 18 USC § 2384, seditious conspiracy is defined: If two or more persons conspire to by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both. Extortion falls under the legal definition of force, according to this explanation of the seditious nature of the GOPs shutdown strategy, while this analysis argues that it may constitute an effort to defraud the government. The evidence is clear that multiple people conspired to prevent, hinder and delay the execution of the Affordable Care Act under the extortionate force of the threat of default.
The conspiracy is enabled by the Supreme Courts Citizens United decision that legalized corporate money laundering for corrupting political campaigns. A landmark investigative report by the New York Times describes a complex web of influential wealthy donors and backers, former elected and appointed officials, secretive corporate PACs and current elected Republicans working together for months to overturn the ACA law. A plan was hatched and signed by leaders of groups including such big-time conservative political slush funds as Club for Growth, Tea Party Patriots, Traditional Values Coalition, The Paul Revere Project, National Tax Limitation Committee, FreedomWorks, and Citizens United, the same group that successfully sued for legalized corporate political money laundering in the first place. The project was heavily funded and supported by Americans for Prosperity, a PAC run by billionaire oil tycoons the Koch brothers, David and Charles, and their corporation, Koch Industries. Americans for Prosperity spent $200 million advertising against the Affordable Care Act. Through Americans for Prosperity and other PACs, the Kochs funded and supported Tea Party candidates, and even gave them their talking points, including ACA-defunding cheerleader, Senator Ted Cruz. Apart from Koch sponsorship, Cruz is also intimately connected to Goldman Sachs.
From its very beginning, the Tea Party was an AstroTurf movement funded and supported by the Kochs and their allies. David Koch was the Libertarian Partys vice presidential candidate in 1980. ..........
Scuba
(53,475 posts)badtoworse
(5,957 posts)By that standard, the work that went into overturning laws that prevented black people from voting and enjoying their civil rights was seditious.
I can't believe this shit is still being pedaled.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)"overturning laws that prevented black people from voting and enjoying their civil rights was seditious."
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)The law is not about standards, rather about intent against existing governance.
Intent is easier to infer than to prove, moreso for politically predisposed believers than for critical thinkers.
cali
(114,904 posts)fuck these asswipes.
I'm so sick of this idiocy.
guess what, you fucking morons? The SCOTUS decision is the law. I don't like it. In fact, I hate it, but that doesn't change that it is the law of the land.
this is without doubt one of the most idiotic pieces I've ever had the misfortune of reading.
there was NOTHING in the GOP shutdown strategy that rises to sedition.
It was reprehensible on every level. what it was not, is sedition.
Ironically, this is right wing type "thinking"
fuck everyone who thinks like this.
dairydog91
(951 posts)Last edited Fri Nov 1, 2013, 03:28 PM - Edit history (1)
If we could create a stupidity-fueled reactor, that article would fully power America for the next century.
cali
(114,904 posts)thanks for the laugh
jeff47
(26,549 posts)(They'd be fuel)
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Do we yet know their half life?
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)I have never had an anger issue within my personal relationships. This is the internet. I like to swear. I don't care for stupid. You are a confused person and my guess is you know shit for all about anger management courses. I actually do- from a referral pov.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)WinstonSmith4740
(3,059 posts)"David Koch was the Libertarian Partys vice presidential candidate in 1980."
I may have to light my hair on fire and run around in circles because I voted for Anderson in 1980 during my libertarian days. I humbly apologize.
DallasNE
(7,404 posts)I always thought he was an old school liberal Republican in the mold of Jacob Javits and would have taken votes from Jimmy Carter, not Ronald Reagan.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,059 posts)I know he ran as an Independent, but back in those days, I was still fairly naive politically. Carter was catching a lot of flack for a lot of stuff (deserved or not), inflation was off the scale. But there was just no way I could bring myself to vote for Reagan. I knew there was no way he was going to win, so it was a pure "protest" vote. Pretty much been doing this ever since:
Please excuse me...I've got to go put out the fire in my hair.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Probably coordinated by someone like Ed Meese.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)This is even more lunatic than the recent Tea Party tantrum over the ACA. And I thought no one could top that.
We're not a third-world country, misusing the legal system over political differences. Period.
- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
BillyRibs
(787 posts)People who are trying to do the right thing Buy many folks on this thread is Give up, Sell Out, This will Never work, and this is why no one takes you seriously. To all of you I say Go Ef yourself! give up, you are a sell out, nothing you do ever works, and I never take you seriously anyway!
DallasNE
(7,404 posts)The 2012 election that disgraced Reagan AG Ed Meese conducted a meeting where the plan to shut down the government over the Affordable Care Act. The first glitch in the plan they hatched was when the Senate passed a budget so the plan for the GOP was to abandon regular order, as the 1974 Budget Control Act requires by having Boehner not appoint House member for the joint budget committee. The Senate 20 times requested Boehner to comply with regular order and name those House members. Interestingly, nobody in the media bothered to ask Boehner why he was refusing to comply with the requirement of the Budget Control Act so they have some culpability in this as well. The idea was to have the fight not over a government shutdown but the debt ceiling where they felt Obama would be compelled to fold. Well, they got a few things wrong and the shutdown ended up happening before the debt ceiling was hit and the Republicans rightfully were blamed for the shutdown. So bitterness prevails, as evidenced by Sen. Sessions telling the President he can't stand the sight of his face, and we are heading for a new shutdown in January. Oddly, Republicans bent on destroying the federal government are unaffected by polls showing Congressional Republicans having a 22% favorable rating. Even traditional rank and file Republicans have abandon the GOP on this issue yet they trudge on. And to think, someone so disgraced as Ed Meese was calling the shots. The Reagan revolution has now come full circle.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,059 posts)Interestingly, nobody in the media bothered to ask Boehner why he was refusing to comply with the requirement of the Budget Control Act so they have some culpability in this as well.
Is it just pure ignorance of the law? Or an inability to do the job of a journalist? They just don't seem to know anything about anything, no research is ever done ahead of time. What should be obvious follow-up questions are never asked.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)The "sedition" / "treason" nonsense is really getting old.
donheld
(21,311 posts)I just have to wonder what one has to do, in this country. to be arrested for Sedition? It seems like that line should have been crossed by the Kochs among others, but nobody ever seems to act on it.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)bowens43
(16,064 posts)VADem1980
(53 posts)I would *LOVE* to see this happen, throw as many rethugs in jail as possible, but sadly we don't have the politcal capital to pull it off. Until then it's a pipe dream at best
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)For doing what's legal? There is no sedition here and I hope to hell that we never gain that kind of political capital.
VADem1980
(53 posts)Where can I start? Bush Era war crimes, racial discrimination, willful conspiracy to deprive millions of Americans of health care, human rights violations writ large against undocumented migrants, voter suppression...the list goes on and on and on.