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Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:50 PM

Wow SeaWorld is one giant douche bag of a corporation.

I was watching a documentary last night called "Blackfish" about killer whales who were preforming at SeaWorld. Those poor animals, being caged like that and manipulated like that. And the way they put their employees in danger! It's so fucked up.

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Reply Wow SeaWorld is one giant douche bag of a corporation. (Original post)
gopiscrap Nov 2013 OP
RobertEarl Nov 2013 #1
gopiscrap Nov 2013 #2
RobertEarl Nov 2013 #3
gopiscrap Nov 2013 #4
TekGryphon Nov 2013 #5
snort Nov 2013 #25
TekGryphon Nov 2013 #30
MrScorpio Nov 2013 #27
deathrind Nov 2013 #29
Joey Liberal Nov 2013 #12
CFLDem Nov 2013 #6
marble falls Nov 2013 #8
CFLDem Nov 2013 #10
BrotherIvan Nov 2013 #11
gopiscrap Nov 2013 #16
csziggy Nov 2013 #13
gopiscrap Nov 2013 #17
csziggy Nov 2013 #23
In_The_Wind Nov 2013 #21
ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #26
marble falls Nov 2013 #7
3Stones Nov 2013 #9
Seedersandleechers Nov 2013 #14
csziggy Nov 2013 #15
gopiscrap Nov 2013 #19
csziggy Nov 2013 #20
Beringia Nov 2013 #31
AAO Nov 2013 #18
RebelOne Nov 2013 #22
ancianita Nov 2013 #24
kairos12 Nov 2013 #28
Zorra Nov 2013 #32

Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:55 PM

1. Yep

 

Tepco is even worse. Tepco being the corporation that has made Fukushima famous.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:57 PM

2. well as far as I am concerned all corporations are evil

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:02 PM

3. That would be false, of course

 

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:04 PM

4. a corporations sole goal is to part you from as much of your cash

as possible for as little cost to them. It doesn't matter to them how they do it, even if it is done illegally just so as they don't get caught. Capitalism on the face of it is evil, it is based on pure selfishness.

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:59 PM

5. Corporations are a construct of humans, operated by humans

Calling all corporations evil is as absurd as calling all humans evil.

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Response to TekGryphon (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:38 PM

25. Dogshit

Corporations are designed by Humans to act as machines.

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Response to snort (Reply #25)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:39 PM

30. Is CostCo evil? Is Red Mill evil?

Pray tell, I want to see how far you're willing to run with your kindergarten logic.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:46 PM

27. You're right. Corporations aren't "evilů"

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They're downright sociopathic.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #27)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:15 PM

29. I could not...

Recommend that documentary more. Yes, there are good business men in this world Ray Anderson for example, who is interviewed in that movie and passed away not long ago. But on balance corporations are not in the best interest of the planet or the human race.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:48 PM

12. CGI is pretty bad too

Screwed up the healthcare web site and then cuts the healthcare benefits for its own employees.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:20 PM

6. But on the other hand

 

Seaworld does bring a lot of Eco-consciousness about marine life to the mainstream.

We all know how public support works, if the public doesn't see it, it might as well not exist.

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Response to CFLDem (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:26 PM

8. So expolit it while we got it to exploit? I don't think so. What eco awareness do they propogate?

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Response to marble falls (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:39 PM

10. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

 

Seaworld is a major rehabilitation facility for many injured animals including manatees and sea turtles.

I highly recommend visiting one of their parks if you haven't yet. I personally find it to be educational and enjoyable, especially since their message is specifically crafted to bring Eco-awareness to the youth.

Seriously you can't leave the park without a sense of appreciation for the marine environment. And the only losers would be the animals if that source of education was snuffed out.

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Response to CFLDem (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:46 PM

11. While I agree that museums have an educational value

It is the use of animals that have no business being in captivity and then made to PERFORM for our entertainment that leaves a bad taste in one's mouth. I used to enjoy Sea World in San Diego as a kid because I love anything to do with the ocean. But the more I learned at how the larger animals suffered, I can't go back. Just as with the places that keep captive dolphins for people to swim with, our entertainment should not equal the suffering of another highly intelligent being. People can learn plenty about the ocean at aquariums and there are many very nice ones.

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Response to BrotherIvan (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:06 PM

16. exactly

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Response to CFLDem (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:51 PM

13. Seaworld lies about nearly every thing

They lie about the animals they keep caged being happy, they lie to their employees about former accidents - and THOSE lies lead to more accidents and deaths - they lie to the media about what has happened in their parks, they lie about the life expectancy of wild versus caged animals.

They do anything, in other words, to keep tourist dollars coming in, no matter what it costs in animal or human deaths.

Watch "Blackfish" on CNN. It will open your eyes to Seaworld's abuses. It's coming on in just a few minutes.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:07 PM

17. that's what I watched last night.

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #17)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:22 PM

23. I made the mistake of turning to it late

Didn't plan on staying with it, but couldn't turn away. Depressing, but really informative. None of those marine mammals should be kept in those conditions. Their actions remind me of elephants kept for circus performances - every so often one goes "rogue" and kills a handler.

This is not the way intelligent creatures should be treated. Marine mammals or elephants!

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Response to csziggy (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:17 PM

21. I'm recording Blackfish now.

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Response to CFLDem (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:42 PM

26. On the other hand, I had always thought trainers were people with experience.

When you watch the interviews with men and women who had never been around animals... When they confess they know everything there is to know about "training" killer whales but nothing about killer whales themselves, when you see the widow of the man killed in Tenerife say that he took the job thinking he would be working on the sound systems...this is when you begin to realize what SeaWorld is..which is not something that should be seen.

When you see actual clips inside the park. Where the public is "learning" that killer whales live longer in captivity (which is a lie), you realize it is a sham.

As a child and young adult, I had always assumed that the people I was watching with these whales were marine biologists. I was wrong. I believed that 35 was the average age a killer whale lived to. Again I was wrong. The average life of a killer whale in the wild is on average with human beings.

This is why we have those willing to work with animals in the wild to learn more about them. To observe without tampering. We don't need to get "up close" or watch waving whales on a Jumbotron to be educated.

After watching this program, I will never visit the parks again. I am also grateful that my daughter didn't recently get the job she put in for at SeaWorld Orlando.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:24 PM

7. SeaWorld is disgusting on so many levels.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:27 PM

9. So sad

I had to watch Blackfish in different sections because it was so heartbreaking to take all at once. The worst part was taking him from his pod then using him as a sperm donor, humans masturbating whales is just sick. FREE TILLI!!

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Response to 3Stones (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:00 PM

14. I don't think

I could watch that. If they are anything like the circus and I suspect they are, then the large marine life have a horrible life.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:03 PM

15. SeaWorld in 1968 made me destest them

Flipper was kept in a small muddy pond, not free in the ocean as they made it seem in the TV show. The pond was a smaller area than I kept my horse in - and far too small for an animal whose living space should have been an ocean.

As a child I refused to go to zoos or circus animal rows at the fair. I grew up when circuses still had animals that were not part of their acts who were kept in cages the size of a minivan. Back then, many zoos kept their animals in cages not a whole lot larger.

I could FEEL the animals' despair and rage. They were clearly not happy, comfortable, or healthy in those enclosures. It was not a pleasure to view unhappy, sick animals, so I would not let my family pay money to encourage those conditions.

SeaWorld gave me the same feelings even though I was older. The animals were not happy in those little pools. I did not enjoy it and will never go back.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:09 PM

19. good for you!

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #19)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:16 PM

20. Thanks!

I've been to two zoos since - The San Diego Wild Animal Park and the Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum. Both made the effort to make the animal enclosures large and as natural as possible. The only animals I got a 'caged' feeling from were the raptors at the Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum and they were all rescues that could not be released to the wild.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #20)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 11:59 PM

31. That is important

to see what the animals are feeling. It is obvious if you are open to it. I can no longer go to zoos either, realizing how unnatural it is for them in enclosures.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:08 PM

18. Man, you have no sense of humor whatsoever!

 



Oh crap - I forgot the sarcasm smiley

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:20 PM

22. I watched tonight for the first time

and it infuriated me. How can humans be so cruel as to exploit animals for entertainment?

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:24 PM

24. See 'The Cove' and you'll never want to see another dolphin show, either. And forget Atlantis!

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:49 PM

28. If you want to read the definitive history on how...

screwed up Seaworld is read the book "Death At Seaworld." I read it last year, it was mind blowing.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 01:02 AM

32. +1 nt

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