Thoughts of Andy Lopez – 13yr old boy shot by Sheriff

[FreakinDJ]

Right away this conversation will lead to arguments of “The Orange Tip, the Orange tip” which really doesn’t hold a lot of water as I’ll explain below. 2nd – contrary to what many here may believe I AM a staunch supporter of 2nd amendment rights an avid hunter, and a US Army VOLENTER Vietnam Vet. Although I believe the current perversion towards assault weapons is a threat to every American’s Second amendment Rights and have advocated as such for over 15 yrs

Yes the orange tip of the TOY had broken off as Andy Lopez’s sister explained to news reporters. It wasn’t intentionally to make the toy appear to be a weapon, and NO – Andy’s parents didn’t buy him a realistic looking toy weapon. It belonged to a friend and he was in the process of returning it when this terrible tragedy happened.

And No – my first impression of Eric Gelhaus isn’t a negative one and more importantly he was brought into the tragic scenario for the SAME reasons Andy Lopez was

Now we will have the calls to impose even more legislation to prevent toy manufactures from making such realistic weapons and kids wanting to play with them - Just try and stop them.

We as a country IDOLIZE our Rambos, our Terminators, our Military members engaged in lopsided conflicts occupying impoverished countries. TV, Movies, News Media, and the Gun Culture alike embellish Machine Guns, Assualt rifles, and Seal Team 6 taking out Osama Bin Laudin complete with a shot through the eyeball by a commando armed with the latest Hightech killing gear the US Military has to offer – all in real time complete with video.

What you expect Kids NOT to want to be what we as a country and parents actively idolize ??? Shit out here in California we even elected the Terminator as Governor.

So here we have Eric Gelhaus, who has bought into the same culture America’s perpetual recruitment of Bullet Stoppers for the Military Industrial Complex his whole life. Served in the Army National Guard, tours in Iraq, 24yr veteran of the Sheriffs Dept. and as directed by his Superior Officers in Iraq conducted Search and Destroy Missions (patrols) looking for Armed Insurgents with orders to engage on site.

He must have had a lot of adrenalin pumping that day he engaged Andy Lopez because he had to ignore several very alarming facts. It takes 2 hands to reposition the trigger finger from the “Stock” of an AK47 to the pistol grip, which btw is the only way Andy could been perceived as a threat. And 2nd the Supreme Court decision regarding Officer’s use of Deadly Force require the officer to FIRST identify themselves as Law Enforcement – as well as his request to drop the perceived weapon.

So was Eric Gelhaus in Iraq or America because that is the difference. Which leaves us with Eric Gelhaus’s superiors once again.

Due to California Law the Local Sheriff is in full control of the media. He decides what is released to the media and what is not and so far he has conducted a fairly extensive campaign to blame the victim. The Sheriffs Department has confiscated cell phone video of the event, and has refused to interview or acknowledge 1st hand witnesses to the event with contradictory testimony. First reports to the media said the FBI was conducting a separate investigation only to be later contradicted by reports they were merely assisting the Sheriffs Dept.

And some people wonder why the kids are protesting demanding Justice for Andy

It is a much larger problem that will continue until state laws are changed and America Defunds the Military Industrial Complex.

But there you have it – Call me a Libtard and Move On – Nothing to see here folks – just a 13yr old boy murdered for our country’s perpetual quest for military conflict

[Bennyboy]

1. A cultural crossroads, two very different cultures with one thing in common

GUNS. And the glorification of violence.

We have no peace heroes and the one that we had, was killed by an assassin. We fight the fight, and glorify John Wayne and the violence peddlers. We play violent games, we watch violent men play violent games.

For those who say it is not US. IT IS YOU. It is the guns. It is the games, it the vernacular, it is the movies and the toys and the TV and the media.

[warrior1]

2. the LE officer

should have waited to let the child speak before he shot him to death

He should have waited to let his partner get out of the vehicle before he shot him to death

He should have waited to let his adrenaline calm down before he shot him to death

He should have waited to assess this situation before he shot him to death

He should have waited.

[FreakinDJ]

3. His superiors would say No - You hesitate and your Dead

and we as a society have endorsed that

During the last justified war America entered - WWII. The military actually was honest and admitted to the troops we would suffer casualties. now they have some perverse reason to try and tell them "If you obey your training we will all come back alive"

It isn't at all realistic but it does make them obedient