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Mass

(27,315 posts)
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 10:59 AM Nov 2013

Good News, Rand! You Can Duel Rachel Maddow And Keep Your Senate Seat After All

Hard to believe that KY has elected this guy for their senator.

Just say you screwed up. That would be simpler and less embarrassing that this crap.



http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/11/04/2881341/good-news-rand-duel-rachel-maddow-senate-seat/


On Sunday, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) said that he would challenge MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow and other critics that have accused him of plagiarism to a duel, except that he’s worried about a quirk in Kentucky law that could limit his job prospects. “If dueling were legal in Kentucky, if they keep it up, you know, it would be a duel challenge,” Paul told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos. “But I can’t do that, because I can’t hold office in Kentucky then.”

Kentucky law does indeed, require state officers to swear that they “have not fought a duel with deadly weapons within this State nor out of it, nor have [they] sent or accepted a challenge to fight a duel with deadly weapons, nor have [they] acted as second in carrying a challenge, nor aided or assisted any person thus offending, so help me God,” but even if this law did apply to federal officials like Paul, it is doubtful that such an application would be constitutional.
The Constitution places three limits on who may serve in the Senate — a senator must “have attained to the age of thirty years, and been nine years a citizen of the United States,” and they must “be an inhabitant of that state for which he shall be chosen.” Moreover, the Supreme Court’s decision in Powell v. McCormack strongly suggests that these are the only limits that can be placed on who is allowed to serve in the Senate. As the Court explained in Powell, a “fundamental principle of our representative democracy is, in [Alexander] Hamilton’s words, ‘that the people should choose whom they please to govern them.’” So if the people of Kentucky want someone who matched rapiers with Rachel Maddow to represent them, that’s their business.
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Good News, Rand! You Can Duel Rachel Maddow And Keep Your Senate Seat After All (Original Post) Mass Nov 2013 OP
what a fucking neanderthal! gopiscrap Nov 2013 #1
Paul already lost his duel with Maddow's rapier wit pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #2
Ouch! The Second Stone Nov 2013 #3
So he wants to duel Rachel over what he called "making a mountain out of a mole hill". JoePhilly Nov 2013 #4
Most cowards get really riled up when they preceive a threat rustydog Nov 2013 #7
Under the rules atreides1 Nov 2013 #5
I forgot about that! yes, take up the challenge rustydog Nov 2013 #8
Fifty bucks on Rachel. nt Buns_of_Fire Nov 2013 #6
Put my money on Rachel too. Brigid Nov 2013 #11
I'll get in on that too. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #12
Persons Challenged Gets to Choose the Weapon - Rachel picks words, at 3 paces JPZenger Nov 2013 #9
Rand Paul is an idiot Gothmog Nov 2013 #10
I wish Rachel would publicly challenge him to an arm wrestling match. Ganja Ninja Nov 2013 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #14
Rand Paul is now throwing his staff under the bus Gothmog Nov 2013 #15
A Baylor Journalism Professor has some choice comments for Rand Paul Gothmog Nov 2013 #16

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
2. Paul already lost his duel with Maddow's rapier wit
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 11:12 AM
Nov 2013

He should have known better than to show up for a battle of wits unarmed.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
3. Ouch!
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 11:12 AM
Nov 2013
a “fundamental principle of our representative democracy is, in Hamilton’s words, ‘that the people should choose whom they please to govern them.’” So if the people of Kentucky want someone who matched rapiers with Rachel Maddow to represent them, that’s their business.


And we all remember how that ended for Hamilton.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
4. So he wants to duel Rachel over what he called "making a mountain out of a mole hill".
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 11:13 AM
Nov 2013

He says its a non-issue ... but he wants to kill her for it.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
7. Most cowards get really riled up when they preceive a threat
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 12:42 PM
Nov 2013

This punk is probably so used to legislatively bullying people that he doesn't know what to do face to face with this obviously dangerous threat to his life and sell-being on planet earth, Rachel Maddow.

She only reports what is out there and he is attacking the messenger. He's been caught with not only his hand in the cookie jar of plagiarism, but there are still crumbs on his lips. what a piss poor excuse for a true man. His daddy should be proud.

atreides1

(16,077 posts)
5. Under the rules
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 11:20 AM
Nov 2013

First off he would be considered a coward for challenging a woman...but we already know that Ron's little boy is a chicken shit bastard to begin with!

She could pick someone to take up her cause and as the one challenged she would be selecting the method...whether it be pistols or swords...swords being preferred.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
8. I forgot about that! yes, take up the challenge
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 12:43 PM
Nov 2013

she can choose MMA and ask Jon Jones to stand for her. We all know the Repug will choose Chucky Norris!

LET'S GET READY TO CRUMMMMMMBLE!

JPZenger

(6,819 posts)
9. Persons Challenged Gets to Choose the Weapon - Rachel picks words, at 3 paces
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 12:53 PM
Nov 2013

Rachel should accept his duel. That gives her the right to choose the weapon. She should choose a war of words on her show, with the 2 of them sitting 3 paces apart. If he is nice they can even meet at MSNBC's old NJ studios, which is near where Hamilton and Burr had their duel.

Gothmog

(145,176 posts)
10. Rand Paul is an idiot
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 01:17 PM
Nov 2013

Rand Paul will not be the GOP nominee in 2016. He is far too stupid to survive the process

Response to Mass (Original post)

Gothmog

(145,176 posts)
15. Rand Paul is now throwing his staff under the bus
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 04:13 PM
Nov 2013

It took a while but Rand Paul is finally making the move that most pundits have been expecting. Rand Paul is now blaming his staff for these issues http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rand-paul-blames-plagiarism-on-staff-implements-new-citation-policy

Sen. Rand Paul's office on Tuesday admitted in a statement that some of the Kentucky senator's speeches were poorly sourced and not properly vetted, after several news reports accused him of plagiarism.

Doug Stafford, Paul's senior advisor, said that the senator always uses his own ideas, but relies on staff to provide support.

"Sen. Paul also relies on a large number of staff and advisers to provide supporting facts and anecdotes – some of which were not clearly sourced or vetted properly," Stafford said in the statement.


It is clear that Paul did not write these speeches and so it was only a matter of time before Rand Paul used his staff as scapegoats.

Gothmog

(145,176 posts)
16. A Baylor Journalism Professor has some choice comments for Rand Paul
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 07:25 PM
Nov 2013

Rand Paul attended Baylor for three years but never earned a degree. Rand Paul was accepted into Duke Medical School and so Paul never graduated from Baylor.

A Baylor journalism professor has some choice comments about Paul's lack of ethics. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/journalism-professor-would-flunk-rand-paul-for-an-unambiguous-case-of-plagiarism

But on Wednesday, Paul lashed out at his critics once more.

"I'm being criticized for not having proper attribution, and yet they are able to write stuff that if I were their journalism teacher in college, I would fail them," Paul told National Review's Robert Costa.

Darden was not moved by that assessment.

"It appears that the Senator from Kentucky is choosing to attack the messenger rather than specifically address what appears to be an unambiguous case of plagiarism," he said in an email. "Had one of my Journalism students made the same mistakes, I would fail them for each individual assignment and refer the case to the appropriate university office that deals with honor code violations."
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